"The police killed my baby" in Houston

I believe that genetics have a lot to do with behavior. Some people are genetically predisposed to criminal behavior. I have seen first hand kids who came from loving parents who went bad. In one case the son became a drug addict and theif and died of aids in his mid 40s. His sister and husband raised 2 boys who are contributing members of society. They came from the same set of parents 3 years apart. This is not the only example that I could post. This is not meant to minimize the need for good parenting only to point out that sometimes other facters are in play.
 
Originally posted by 7003006:
I would be willing to bet that some people right here on the forum raised their children in "good " neighborhoods,coached little league,helped with homework,ect but their children still went "bad".I aggree that how a child is raised usualy has A LOT to do with how they turn out but I don't think you can say for sure a propper upbring always results in good kids/people.That being said,one thing my parents taught me was that actions have consiquences-something the mother in this situation doesn't seem to realize.
Absolutely THE worst thugs I went to college with in the '70s were rich kids from Oklahoma and Arkansas. Their fathers were wealthy executives in the oil, grocery and other industries. Their common trait was the apparent fact that they'd never heard the word "no" in their lives. I'm sure it was a jarring experience for these rich kids from the suburbs to come up against kids from the hood, farms and small towns, who not only were willing to tell them "no", but to back it up with force if necessary. I've only come as close to shooting somebody as I did with these drug addled numbskulls once since I left college, and that was an apparent attempted carjacking.

You don't have to ever tell your kids "no" when they misbehave, but eventually somebody else will, possibly with a loaded gun in their hand. By then it's too late.
 
Absolutely THE worst thugs I went to college with in the '70s were rich kids from Oklahoma and Arkansas.

+1, but I thought I was the only one who remembered these people.


Okie John
 
Ok, one last statement and I'm done. I have worked with kids for most of my adult life, teaching, coaching, etc. Some kids are just born with no conscience and just turn out badly. I had one group of athletes from one family, 2 of the sons went to the Naval Academy and one is doing life without parole for murder. You just never know.
 
Originally posted by okie john:
Absolutely THE worst thugs I went to college with in the '70s were rich kids from Oklahoma and Arkansas.

+1, but I thought I was the only one who remembered these people.


Okie John
One of them ran over and killed the town drunk while going about 80mph through the slum next door to the college. Magically, the drunk's family moved into a home they couldn't possibly pay for themselves and no charges or lawsuit were filed...
 
Originally posted by HOUSTON RICK:
I only deal with criminals periodically on a volunteer basis,

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I fear you're much too modest. If you deal with corporate America, I'm betting you just don't see their criminal activity!
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Originally posted by rburg:
Originally posted by HOUSTON RICK:
I only deal with criminals periodically on a volunteer basis,

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I fear you're much too modest. If you deal with corporate America, I'm betting you just don't see their criminal activity!
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The guy that I replaced where I worked until I was laid off in February was a complete and utter sociopath. He essentially lived to steal, even when he could have made ten times more simply actually doing his job.

He stole at least $300,000 from us including fraudulent credit card charges, fraudulent expenses, and fraudulent company checks which were carried as legitimate expenses in the accounting system, but were actually written to him. He stole a credit line check from another company owned by the president and "loaned" the money to the company he actually worked for. He then "repayed" himself thousands of dollars for the fraudulent "loan". He even incorporated a competing company using a company credit card.

He got caught kiting checks, when a bunch of them bounced and the banks contacted the president when he wasn't around. The banks were getting ready to turn the matter over to their fraud divisions and prosecute when the boss fired this guy over the phone and had the locks changed. This was on a Saturday. The guy then drove to the office, kicked in the door and stole a bunch of files, including documents needed to receive pending foreign shipments. He was immediately arrested at his home, and files returned, albeit what portion of the ones he stole, nobody knows.

He then sued the company for wrongful termination. The company counter-sued for his various thefts. I ended up getting hired temporarily to do some forensics to figure out what he'd stolen and what if any evidence he'd destroyed. He'd had the bank stop sending canceled checks in order to conceal his thefts. We subpoenaed the canceled checks from the banks. In a couple of hours, I was able to find nearly $100,000 in fraudulent payee checks, by comparing the payees in the accounting software vs. check copies. He would write checks to himself and then enter them as checks to freight forwarders, shipping lines, etc.

He tried to bluff his way through... while not paying his various attorneys. When it came time to go to trial, he blinked, agreeing to a settlement in our favor for $50,000. If he failed to make a payment or was late, he owed us $200.000. He made a couple of payments, then as I expected, the payments stopped. One of the checks was a company check from a company we'd never heard of. Another was a cashier's check. We recently found out why we got the strange checks and why the payments stopped. He'd gone into business with another patsy and was writing company checks to pay off the judgement. Of course he'd already looted that company's bank accounts, so there was no money. We got the register check because he'd cashed the check at one bank and purchased the register check at another with cash.

We tried to get the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor to prosecute and got virtually no cooperation. They didn't even return calls from the Rocky River PD. Apparently now, they're starting to move on the prosecution after a year. I'm told that he's continuing to write checks from the new company even though there's no money in the bank.

We have documentation that this guy stole from two previous employers before stealing from us. He continues to steal to this day.

To top it off, the guy's a convicted felon. He tried to import some Chinese medical gloves. They were defective and Customs wouldn't let him import them. They agreed to allow him to import them as "gardening" gloves. When they were imported as gardening gloves, he then relabeled them as medical gloves and tried to sell them as such. He was caught, convicted and sent to Federal prison.

Yes, there are people with no conscience and they don't all come from trailer parks or housing projects.
 
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