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Texting While Driving
So while students are on the ban-wagon to outlaw everything that causes Teen deaths, I'm sure they will support banning cell phones. In 2013 texting while driving hit the radar as a leading cause of teen deaths- over 3000.
Study: Texting while driving now leading cause of death for teen drivers | Newsday
That death rate has gone up every year since. The NTSB estimates that category of distracted driving is a factor in 25% of all fatal accidents. And over 330,000 car accident injuries a year. One study I read noted 11 teens dies every day in distracted driving accidents.
So let's put restrictions on cell phones. You have to be 21 to possess one. Put disabling devices on all cell phones that shut them off in a car. Oh, and only responsible people should own them. So you have to pass a test. And register them .
See, cell phones use the federally regulated airways. Your use is permissive. A permission granted by the government. You don't have a right to a cell phone.
But you do have a right to keep and bear arms.
Rights- God given and inalienable, upon which the government cannot infringe.
Licenses - permissions granted by the government subject to all conditions imposed by the government.
Big difference.
While any death is tragic, there are things that can be done now without a threat to the rights of others. Done to prevent far many more deaths than school shootings.
So snowflakes, surrender those phones! We are coming for them. After all, we're from the government and we're here to help!
So while students are on the ban-wagon to outlaw everything that causes Teen deaths, I'm sure they will support banning cell phones. In 2013 texting while driving hit the radar as a leading cause of teen deaths- over 3000.
Study: Texting while driving now leading cause of death for teen drivers | Newsday
That death rate has gone up every year since. The NTSB estimates that category of distracted driving is a factor in 25% of all fatal accidents. And over 330,000 car accident injuries a year. One study I read noted 11 teens dies every day in distracted driving accidents.
So let's put restrictions on cell phones. You have to be 21 to possess one. Put disabling devices on all cell phones that shut them off in a car. Oh, and only responsible people should own them. So you have to pass a test. And register them .
See, cell phones use the federally regulated airways. Your use is permissive. A permission granted by the government. You don't have a right to a cell phone.
But you do have a right to keep and bear arms.
Rights- God given and inalienable, upon which the government cannot infringe.
Licenses - permissions granted by the government subject to all conditions imposed by the government.
Big difference.
While any death is tragic, there are things that can be done now without a threat to the rights of others. Done to prevent far many more deaths than school shootings.
So snowflakes, surrender those phones! We are coming for them. After all, we're from the government and we're here to help!
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I find it amazing that us "old folks" made it all those years without a phone stuck in our face every minute of the day. It was stuck to the wall....Imagine that. And guns sat in the closet, and in the rear window of pickup trucks. There was no bloody/vulgar t.v. shows, and t.v. went off at midnight, all of it. And...If you did the crime, you did the time. Weird huh?
cmort666
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I could institute a program of "common sense" laws which would drastically curtail crime.
Of course I'm not sure that the snowflakes themselves would like being subject to:
internal passports
preventive detention
police torture
place of residence tied to place of employment
capital punishment imposed by three man "troikas"
History has a lot of object lessons that the snowflakes are too busy watching "My Little Pony" to learn.
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Perhaps, this is why "the powers that be" have all but eliminated history from the public indoctrination centers (i.e. public schools).
OP
The Students are NOT DONE CONTINUED!
With the planned marches, OVER 800 Nationwide, they are now on the cover of TIME Magazine.
(what the heck, they have nothing else to do)
Yes, the so called activists are front and center.
This of course will be distributed to every waiting room in the Country.
So for those that think this will "all blow over" perhaps rethink that.
The power of the media and more so SOCIAL Media this stuff spreads like the plague.
Most of our generation(s) have not seen the way all this electronic media can influence decisions.
The change in Florida law, Stores raisng the age to 21, The YouTube thing, is not just due to the shooting itself, it is due to these people and generation.
Things will be changing.
How Parkland Teens Are Leading the Gun Control Conversation | Time
With the planned marches, OVER 800 Nationwide, they are now on the cover of TIME Magazine.
(what the heck, they have nothing else to do)
Yes, the so called activists are front and center.
This of course will be distributed to every waiting room in the Country.
So for those that think this will "all blow over" perhaps rethink that.
The power of the media and more so SOCIAL Media this stuff spreads like the plague.
Most of our generation(s) have not seen the way all this electronic media can influence decisions.
The change in Florida law, Stores raisng the age to 21, The YouTube thing, is not just due to the shooting itself, it is due to these people and generation.
Things will be changing.
How Parkland Teens Are Leading the Gun Control Conversation | Time
carpriver
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This group knows how to use social media for good and ill that is for sure.
What i keep thinks is way are the shooter turning on there class mates ? When you enter a school you enter a different social structure and the kids set the rules. It's the kids that need to change there social structure. The development of respect for each other, excepting differences in looks, clothes, interests, and skills.
If kids want to stop school shooting stop a social system the isolated others belittles differences.
What i keep thinks is way are the shooter turning on there class mates ? When you enter a school you enter a different social structure and the kids set the rules. It's the kids that need to change there social structure. The development of respect for each other, excepting differences in looks, clothes, interests, and skills.
If kids want to stop school shooting stop a social system the isolated others belittles differences.
HOUSTON RICK
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Protest and complaint at the status quo is the privilege of youth.
Grayfox
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What scares me is that in a few years these brainwashed little twits will be running things.
I believe that the kids.....
I believe that the kids also need to think of what THEY can do since so many shooters are disaffected teenagers. See what you can do to prevent people from getting to this point. Keep them involved. Don't wall yourself or them off because that's part of the problem now. If a person is showing sociopathic behavior. There has to be a variety of ways to prevent people from getting to this stage.
Let me tell the kids a basic truth. We live in a SICK society with everything pushing people to make violence an answer to their problems. What do YOU do that could disaffect somebody? Snubbing, hateful social media? Allowing your friends to be obsessed with violence beyond the point that they can't see anything but bombing, shooting, stabbing, burning and otherwise hurting or killing.
Can you demonstrate that life is worth living but you get out of it what you put into it? Don't let people sit around and feel worthless because sooner rather than later they are going to feel trapped and desperate to make SOME impression. IGNORE and discourage media to stop inflaming every violent issue. SHOW them by not paying attention to their manipulations of peoples feelings. Run THEM bankrupt because so few people watch or listen, that it isn't worthwhile for them to stir things up. Learn to think for yourself instead of what everybody else wants you to think or what everybody else says is good for you to believe. Learn constructive hobbies and involve others. Part of the problem is that people are sitting on their cans too much when they need to have outlets for build up of energy or frustrations.
If we all sit idle, we are letting the 'law' of the street run our lives. I can say a few things about us adults, too. Kids to many are a big bother. You have to live with them so you just try to stay as disconnected as you can. If you want to destroy your family, get into drugs or other illicit behavior. Here comes a big one. WHO TAKES COMMITMENTS SERIOUSLY? That's something that we sorely lack. Stop glorifying stupidity. Use your teenage years to prepare for life instead of finding yourself with nothing of value, either in life or in money, and end up knowing that the only way you can make a mark on the world is to immolate yourself and take as many people with you as you can.
Change starts with each one of us.
I'll shut up now, but there is a lot that anybody and everybody can and should do. I propose that people work toward making a better society than banning guns, which will do nothing to cure what is really wrong.
I believe that the kids also need to think of what THEY can do since so many shooters are disaffected teenagers. See what you can do to prevent people from getting to this point. Keep them involved. Don't wall yourself or them off because that's part of the problem now. If a person is showing sociopathic behavior. There has to be a variety of ways to prevent people from getting to this stage.
Let me tell the kids a basic truth. We live in a SICK society with everything pushing people to make violence an answer to their problems. What do YOU do that could disaffect somebody? Snubbing, hateful social media? Allowing your friends to be obsessed with violence beyond the point that they can't see anything but bombing, shooting, stabbing, burning and otherwise hurting or killing.
Can you demonstrate that life is worth living but you get out of it what you put into it? Don't let people sit around and feel worthless because sooner rather than later they are going to feel trapped and desperate to make SOME impression. IGNORE and discourage media to stop inflaming every violent issue. SHOW them by not paying attention to their manipulations of peoples feelings. Run THEM bankrupt because so few people watch or listen, that it isn't worthwhile for them to stir things up. Learn to think for yourself instead of what everybody else wants you to think or what everybody else says is good for you to believe. Learn constructive hobbies and involve others. Part of the problem is that people are sitting on their cans too much when they need to have outlets for build up of energy or frustrations.
If we all sit idle, we are letting the 'law' of the street run our lives. I can say a few things about us adults, too. Kids to many are a big bother. You have to live with them so you just try to stay as disconnected as you can. If you want to destroy your family, get into drugs or other illicit behavior. Here comes a big one. WHO TAKES COMMITMENTS SERIOUSLY? That's something that we sorely lack. Stop glorifying stupidity. Use your teenage years to prepare for life instead of finding yourself with nothing of value, either in life or in money, and end up knowing that the only way you can make a mark on the world is to immolate yourself and take as many people with you as you can.
Change starts with each one of us.
I'll shut up now, but there is a lot that anybody and everybody can and should do. I propose that people work toward making a better society than banning guns, which will do nothing to cure what is really wrong.
That's right, do everything......
Yes, do everything EXCEPT fix the problem.
..........The change in Florida law, Stores raisng the age to 21, The YouTube thing, is not just due to the shooting itself, it is due to these people and generation.
Things will be changing.
How Parkland Teens Are Leading the Gun Control Conversation | Time
Yes, do everything EXCEPT fix the problem.
With the planned marches, OVER 800 Nationwide, they are now on the cover of TIME Magazine.
(what the heck, they have nothing else to do)
Yes, the so called activists are front and center.
This of course will be distributed to every waiting room in the Country.
So for those that think this will "all blow over" perhaps rethink that.
The power of the media and more so SOCIAL Media this stuff spreads like the plague.
Most of our generation(s) have not seen the way all this electronic media can influence decisions.
The change in Florida law, Stores raisng the age to 21, The YouTube thing, is not just due to the shooting itself, it is due to these people and generation.
Things will be changing.
How Parkland Teens Are Leading the Gun Control Conversation | Time
The mantra of today's youth can best be summed up in the words of the imortal, late, great, Freddie Mercury.
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now"
The youth of today know that they will inherit society eventually, but do not want to wait for the day to roll around. So they get on to their social media and start petitions, then moan and bitch that the "establishment" needs to give way to the young because they won't implement change. (Actually that particular complaint has been around in every generation since the 50's).
As for Time magazine, well my belief is that the well publicised views that emerge from New York, Washington and California are not necessarily the views of mainstream USA. I recently read an online article about the number of liberal cities, some well known "sanctuary cities" included, in the US which are actually now finding themselves becoming isolated in conservative states as the rural populations gain ground and influence the wider populations.
And as of February this year conservative states outnumber liberal states 44 to 6, while the general population is 36% conservative and only 25% liberal (the remaining 39% being moderates going from side to side on different issues). The United States is Still Very Conservative - CityLab
So while the youth views may be loud and heard far and wide, thanks to social media, they do not actually gain traction as exemplified by the Parkland youth failing to get the Florida legislature to ban AR15's.
There is a view outside the US that the Parkland shooting will force the US to drastically change their firearms laws. It is simply based on the noise of youth, particluarly Parkland youth, and their supporters. It entirely fails to take into account aspects of US society that is so different to european and other societies such as States rights, the fact that conservative states still outnumber liberal states and that both state and federal politicians are still subject to the whims of their constituents and want (need in some cases) to be re-elected.
In this country there is a youth movement to lower the voting age to 16 (currently 18). There are petitions and regular opinion pieces published regularly in support, but no government will introduce such legislation as they will loose support come the next election. And in the meantime our population is aging faster than the birth rate, so that even when today's young reach the age where they would, historically, be taking control of society they will still be outnumbered by their elders.
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That's fine IF.....
Heck, I want everything, too. But it has to be realized that it's going to take effort, time and compromise to get as close to that goal as you can.
My wife and I lived it up for years. We were active in everything, on the go all the time. And we enjoyed the heck out of it. But I thought to myself, why can't I have EVERYTHING. I put aside everything and we adopted a baby boy. I've enjoyed every minute of raising him, though we had some really hard times. Now I'm reaping the rewards, because everything that I really want is WHAT MATTERS. I've got my family and I consider that to be a success story at this point in my life. If I'm not here tomorrow I"ve done what I want to and everything else doesn't really matter. While I"m here though I"m going to spend time with guns and reloading to keep busy until the next phase of life.
I hope that Freddie got what he wanted before he exited the stage.
Heck, I want everything, too. But it has to be realized that it's going to take effort, time and compromise to get as close to that goal as you can.
My wife and I lived it up for years. We were active in everything, on the go all the time. And we enjoyed the heck out of it. But I thought to myself, why can't I have EVERYTHING. I put aside everything and we adopted a baby boy. I've enjoyed every minute of raising him, though we had some really hard times. Now I'm reaping the rewards, because everything that I really want is WHAT MATTERS. I've got my family and I consider that to be a success story at this point in my life. If I'm not here tomorrow I"ve done what I want to and everything else doesn't really matter. While I"m here though I"m going to spend time with guns and reloading to keep busy until the next phase of life.
I hope that Freddie got what he wanted before he exited the stage.
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keith44spl
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If these children are the future of our country......
Well then, it's all just going to hell in a handbasket.
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Well then, it's all just going to hell in a handbasket.
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It would pay to read/study the origins and outcomes of the Hitler Youth in 1930's Germany. The similarities with what is going on today is frightening.
Unfortunately this is what happens when we fail to teach history.
Unfortunately this is what happens when we fail to teach history.
Remember it's not children that have organized today's protest. It's anti-gun organizations and their news media allies.
keith44spl
Member
Yes, they're just pawns for the anti-common sense crowd.
These children are naïve and easily swayed by any ol wind that blows. Kinda like the 60s eh?
(If they wanted real change in their school...They would march to return prayer to our schools,
they would demand the pledge of allegiance to be recited each day in their classrooms.
They only ask for our prayers after a tragedy.
For real change, they would start respecting their teachers, their classmates and themselves.
Those among us that do not respect God's laws.....can't be expected to obey man's laws.)
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OP
Surprised by your reference to Freddie Mercury (Queen)
He certainly could sing!
For the Students perhaps the Rolling Stones?
"You can't always get what you want"!
Or back to a great movie!
nachogrande
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NOT, TO MINIMIZE THEIR PAIN OR WELL MEANING FIST SHAKING, BUT...
Anyone else wondering/waiting for who will perform the 1/2 time show? For the Kevin Bacon (footloose) let's dance, or the Mathew Broderick (Ferris Beuhler's day off) twist & shout scene?
What do "ALL" of these terrorist attackers have in common (imo)? The internet & cell phones!!! WAY MORE THAN BUMP STOCKS. "You mean I can't use my cell phone, & will have to read books"??? (oh the horror) NEVERMIND.
Anyone else wondering/waiting for who will perform the 1/2 time show? For the Kevin Bacon (footloose) let's dance, or the Mathew Broderick (Ferris Beuhler's day off) twist & shout scene?
What do "ALL" of these terrorist attackers have in common (imo)? The internet & cell phones!!! WAY MORE THAN BUMP STOCKS. "You mean I can't use my cell phone, & will have to read books"??? (oh the horror) NEVERMIND.
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