The Titanic
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StrawHat
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Bertha Mulvihill, was on board the Titanic, sailing to Providence to marry my great Uncle. She was an Irish girl and her dowry of linen and crystal went to the bottom. She made it to Lifeboat 15 and eventually down the aisle with Uncle. Her prized possession and only "memento" of the Titanic was an overcoat handed to her as she stepped into the lifeboat. The gentleman who handed it to her stated, " ...take this coat, lady, I won't be needing it... ". He was not seen again.
I never met the lady but my Pop talked of her.
Kevin
I never met the lady but my Pop talked of her.
Kevin
They were going too fast....
The ship ignored ice warnings.
The life boats were half filled. Totally disorganized abandoning of the ship cost many more lives that could have been saved.
Even if the lifeboats had been filled there weren't enough to carry everybody. This led to a 'First class passengers first' situation and locking the third class passengers away from other parts of the ship and delayed their escape.
The other ship ignored pleas for help and thought the distress rockets were people goofing off.
Binoculars for the lookouts were locked away.
The rudder was too small for such a large ship. Ok for crossing oceans but not for emergency maneuvers. This was made worse by reversing the engines.
The ship ignored ice warnings.
The life boats were half filled. Totally disorganized abandoning of the ship cost many more lives that could have been saved.
Even if the lifeboats had been filled there weren't enough to carry everybody. This led to a 'First class passengers first' situation and locking the third class passengers away from other parts of the ship and delayed their escape.
The other ship ignored pleas for help and thought the distress rockets were people goofing off.
Binoculars for the lookouts were locked away.
The rudder was too small for such a large ship. Ok for crossing oceans but not for emergency maneuvers. This was made worse by reversing the engines.
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Lack of individual bravery.....
Lack of bravery by individuals was NOT a problem.
It's said that some of the first class passengers put on their best clothes for the occasion of their death.
Lack of bravery by individuals was NOT a problem.
It's said that some of the first class passengers put on their best clothes for the occasion of their death.
The ships galley crew has worked very hard this entire cruise to bring you some of the finest meals that can be made on board this fine ship
I do believe someone may have forgotten to wash the dishes!
I do believe someone may have forgotten to wash the dishes!
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The ships wireless room has received two ice warnings that have been given to Capt. Smith.
At 5:30 PM the temperature has dropped by 10 degrees over a two hour period
I must have this watch repaired
At 5:30 the ships course has changed to a more southerly direction as to avoid these ice sightings
At 5:30 PM the temperature has dropped by 10 degrees over a two hour period
I must have this watch repaired
At 5:30 the ships course has changed to a more southerly direction as to avoid these ice sightings
THEWELSHM
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Titanic 2 is fully booked...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9GJDhd_JPo[/ame]
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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9GJDhd_JPo[/ame]
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THEWELSHM
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Lack of bravery by individuals was NOT a problem.
It's said that some of the first class passengers put on their best clothes for the occasion of their death.
I think, would have headed to the bar ordered some Louis X111 Brandy https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-1771.aspx ( booked it to the room of course) and reflected on life. Plus that Brandy would have kept me warm 20 or 30 seconds longer
thewelshm
Man!
How in the word did those stay together like that?
How in the word did those stay together like that?
M E Morrison
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I expect they were stacked in some sort of rack or storage cabinet that has since rotted away.
I expect they were stacked in some sort of rack or storage cabinet that has since rotted away.
Yes, but I'm surprised they didn't break when the ship hit bottom. I vaguely remember Robert Ballard writing that one of the large ships he found was going about 125 mph when it hit bottom.
THE PILGRIM
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Knew a guy who in war II went over to England in the Queen Mary.
He swears that that the worse part of the war- fighting a few million Germans was easy after enduring that crossing.
He swears that that the worse part of the war- fighting a few million Germans was easy after enduring that crossing.
calmex
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In 1998 or so, the art director for the James Cameron film came here to San Miguel to "take some time off" after the filming of the movie. In fact, the movie was in theaters while she was still here. Although she had a boyfriend back in Canada, she was unencumbered here although she generally behaved herself and was a good friend. Sometimes we got close enough that the electricity started to arc, but I behaved myself too with the help of a somewhat possessive girlfriend at the time keeping close tabs on me. I would describe the film's art director at that time as disturbingly hot to the point of distraction. She has a non-speaking roll in the film: that's her washing the contents of the safe off while the action takes place around her and the original hand-drawing of Rose is discovered as the safe is opened.
She was even hotter in real life. She had an incredible array of "Titanic" the film memorabilia. She had a life jacket. She had 3 different versions of the original black-and-white drawing of Rose with the gem at her throat, although she told me that the one that was used in the film was NOT one of the two drawn by her but was the one in fact drawn by...James Cameron. Yes, that's what she told me. Those were not Leo's hands doing the drawing in the actual film, it was James Cameron himself. She said! She had that original with her as well. I held it, but she would not let me "black-and-white photocopy" it. I guess electricity doesn't help with some things.
She told me and my friends many little anecdotes about the filming (and the inevitable gossip such as James Cameron and Linda Hamilton's problems at the time). She told me that the water they filmed in as the set "flooded" was quite cold and that Leo was shivering for real. She had a version of the film on VHS tape that was quite expanded from the theatrical release which we watched. Only a few years ago on the 100th anniversary of the sinking they played the expanded version of the film here in San Miguel (on the night) and I went with my wife. Much of the "new footage" in the 100th Anniversary release was exactly what I had seen at the big Titanic Party we had one night where the film was shown to me, some friends, and my staff (whom are all basically still working here) back on that VHS tape back in the late `90's. There was some new stuff in the 100th Anniversary edition, and certainly anything CGI was new, but a lot of what got cut out of the theatrical release in the '90's was on her video tape.
One thing she had was a complete set of dishes and silverware that Cameron had made up for the filming and given a set to everyone on the crew. We had a big spagetti cook that night with the inevitable wine and beer and coffee and tea...and everyone of my employees ate with some piece of china or tea or coffee cup or silverware with the White Star Line markings on it. Of course, everyone was appreciatively careful, and nothing was broken.
I have no photos of that night, I am not a tourist and I did not carry a camera during most of the time I have been here because what happens around here is what happens around here. Cel phones existed at that time, but not with cameras. So I have no photos for this thread.
I suppose the fondest memory I have of the evening, when I think about it, was the life jacket. The life jacket she had with her was not very big, made for a large child or very small adult. One of my employees (who has worked here all 26 years that the store has existed) is quite small, hardly coming up to 4 feet, 6 inches and quite slim and was even slimmer at the time. So you can imagine who got dressed up in the lifejacket and paraded around for everyone to look at and imagine "what if?"
Mexicans in general did not know much about the Titanic until the movie came out as it was not a part of their societal lore. Still, all my staff had seen the movie by the time we had this party -- and then they got to see the extended version on VHS!!! But sitting there, eating their spagetti and Ice Cream, I believe I caught one or two of them running their fingertips over the "White Star Line" markings on their china or cups....and pursing their lips a little bit in thought.
She was even hotter in real life. She had an incredible array of "Titanic" the film memorabilia. She had a life jacket. She had 3 different versions of the original black-and-white drawing of Rose with the gem at her throat, although she told me that the one that was used in the film was NOT one of the two drawn by her but was the one in fact drawn by...James Cameron. Yes, that's what she told me. Those were not Leo's hands doing the drawing in the actual film, it was James Cameron himself. She said! She had that original with her as well. I held it, but she would not let me "black-and-white photocopy" it. I guess electricity doesn't help with some things.
She told me and my friends many little anecdotes about the filming (and the inevitable gossip such as James Cameron and Linda Hamilton's problems at the time). She told me that the water they filmed in as the set "flooded" was quite cold and that Leo was shivering for real. She had a version of the film on VHS tape that was quite expanded from the theatrical release which we watched. Only a few years ago on the 100th anniversary of the sinking they played the expanded version of the film here in San Miguel (on the night) and I went with my wife. Much of the "new footage" in the 100th Anniversary release was exactly what I had seen at the big Titanic Party we had one night where the film was shown to me, some friends, and my staff (whom are all basically still working here) back on that VHS tape back in the late `90's. There was some new stuff in the 100th Anniversary edition, and certainly anything CGI was new, but a lot of what got cut out of the theatrical release in the '90's was on her video tape.
One thing she had was a complete set of dishes and silverware that Cameron had made up for the filming and given a set to everyone on the crew. We had a big spagetti cook that night with the inevitable wine and beer and coffee and tea...and everyone of my employees ate with some piece of china or tea or coffee cup or silverware with the White Star Line markings on it. Of course, everyone was appreciatively careful, and nothing was broken.
I have no photos of that night, I am not a tourist and I did not carry a camera during most of the time I have been here because what happens around here is what happens around here. Cel phones existed at that time, but not with cameras. So I have no photos for this thread.
I suppose the fondest memory I have of the evening, when I think about it, was the life jacket. The life jacket she had with her was not very big, made for a large child or very small adult. One of my employees (who has worked here all 26 years that the store has existed) is quite small, hardly coming up to 4 feet, 6 inches and quite slim and was even slimmer at the time. So you can imagine who got dressed up in the lifejacket and paraded around for everyone to look at and imagine "what if?"
Mexicans in general did not know much about the Titanic until the movie came out as it was not a part of their societal lore. Still, all my staff had seen the movie by the time we had this party -- and then they got to see the extended version on VHS!!! But sitting there, eating their spagetti and Ice Cream, I believe I caught one or two of them running their fingertips over the "White Star Line" markings on their china or cups....and pursing their lips a little bit in thought.
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calmex, that's a great story ,,,thanks for sharing! 
In May I will be visiting the Titanic museum in Pigeon Foge, sometime in the near future I'm suppose to go visit friends in England. One stop will be in South Hampdon and I would like to make it up to Ireland and the see the Harland and Wolfe shipyard. A friend of mine was there several years ago and they have opened parts for a museum, supposedly the dry docks are still there?
I have wait and see if I make to England first!
I am somewhat a Titanic fanatic!
In May I will be visiting the Titanic museum in Pigeon Foge, sometime in the near future I'm suppose to go visit friends in England. One stop will be in South Hampdon and I would like to make it up to Ireland and the see the Harland and Wolfe shipyard. A friend of mine was there several years ago and they have opened parts for a museum, supposedly the dry docks are still there?
I have wait and see if I make to England first!
I am somewhat a Titanic fanatic!
sigp220.45
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It is just called Titanic. The whole movie is on Youtube:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvWPDG2EjCI[/ame]
Comrad
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Have any guns been recovered from the wreck? I know some officers were armed but I can't find that any have ever been recovered.
At a time when the nazi war effort could ill afford it this movie cost an incredible amount of money to make. Most of the exterior shots in the 50s A Night To Remember came from the nazi movie. Of all the true stories of love and bravery in the sinking, it disappointed me that Cameron chose to tell a fictitious tale that in that age could never have happened. It is also interesting that all the things we learned in school as to the condition of the wreck, that the great depth would protect it from the elements, upon its discovery turned out to be wrong. The accident board after the wreck determined that in sank in tact despite testimony from survivors that it broke in two. The discovery proved them correct.
ridewv
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Tonights dinner will be as offered, Please dress accordingly
What's with the 2012 date on the menu?
That was a reprint of the actual meal held that night onboard ship that someone gave as a dinner on the same night that date.
I know locally there is a Bed and Breakfast that has sponsored Titanic dinners as such held on the day of its sinking.
I missed that when I posted this.
I know locally there is a Bed and Breakfast that has sponsored Titanic dinners as such held on the day of its sinking.
I missed that when I posted this.
If it happened today:
Either that or a bunch of selfies with the boat behind them.
Either that or a bunch of selfies with the boat behind them.
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While doing duck face.If it happened today:
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Either that or a bunch of selfies with the boat behind them.
I touched....
I touched a guy(handshake) of a man that flew on the Hindenburg before the disaster. He was Navy Medical Corp and was at Lakehurst and he was asked to tend to a crewman that had injured his hand. To return the favor the captain asked if he wanted to take a 'hop'. They flew around the NE on their 'day trips'.
PS: I don't know what made me do this. I definitely know better, but I very lightly touched a Van Gogh in the MOMA. I'd probably been arrested had I been caught. It kind of called me......the texture.....
I guess the statute of limitations is out on that. I hope. You guys don't tell anybody.
I touched a few Hindenburg items at one of the two museums they have f it in Germany. One museum was owned by a surviving crewmember of that airship. If ever in Meerberg,it's located steps away from Meersburg Schloss. I had touched one of the ships captains caps and coats--though the signs say not to. Typical Ami I am.
I touched a guy(handshake) of a man that flew on the Hindenburg before the disaster. He was Navy Medical Corp and was at Lakehurst and he was asked to tend to a crewman that had injured his hand. To return the favor the captain asked if he wanted to take a 'hop'. They flew around the NE on their 'day trips'.
PS: I don't know what made me do this. I definitely know better, but I very lightly touched a Van Gogh in the MOMA. I'd probably been arrested had I been caught. It kind of called me......the texture.....
I guess the statute of limitations is out on that. I hope. You guys don't tell anybody.
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calmex
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If it happened today:
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Either that or a bunch of selfies with the boat behind them.
Your post, and one of my employees (with whom I was reminiscing this afternoon about the time we tied Guadalupe in a Titanic lifejacket and had her stand at the curve of a stairway with bannister in the house we were in like she was in the main gallery) reminded me of another thing the Titanic Art Director had with her: hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of Polaroid instamatic shots of the filming of the movie.
This was a type of technology almost out of existence (if not out of existence) at the time, and I remember her explaining to me that she needed to be able to take of photo of something "exactly as it was" at the point of Scene 1 so that for subsequent "takes" it could be completely recreated "as it was" and what they had used was a Polaroid. I guess Cameron got it for her -- she idolized Cameron (who, like myself, was a fellow Canadian).
One scene in particular that comes to mind was when Leo was handcuffed to the pipe below decks. I guess they had to film that scene through many different takes due to various problems, and Leo was almost frozen. She told me that everytime he rattled the cuffs, the paint came off the pipe and she had to wade in the repaint. Time after time.
"But," she told me, with her come-hither ... don't-stand-so-close-to-me ... smile and batting eyes, "I had a set of hip-waders that James had gotten for me. Leo had nothing but his clothes. He was almost frozen." At least when they filmed the Canadian movie Passchendaele, most of those actors laying in the mud had wet-suits under their uniforms but I guess Leo didn't in that long below-deck scene.
Anyway, just some things I remembered from that night after writing it up made me think about it.
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Generally speaking...
Generally speaking, transport ships are hell. A friend that was on one told me every was shuffling around with their bottom eyelids blue and drooped over their jowls with a half full puke bag.
The crowning touch was the 'head' that had long trough toilets with holes to sit on. When the ship pitched, the contents would slosh up out of one end and on the next it would slosh out the other end.
Generally speaking, transport ships are hell. A friend that was on one told me every was shuffling around with their bottom eyelids blue and drooped over their jowls with a half full puke bag.
The crowning touch was the 'head' that had long trough toilets with holes to sit on. When the ship pitched, the contents would slosh up out of one end and on the next it would slosh out the other end.
THE PILGRIM
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On the Queen Marie- they were jammed in like cordwood.
The ship went high speed and zig-zagged.
They were fed 2 British meals a day On a rotating schedule.
Most all of our GIs were seasick from takeoff to landing.
