The Very Few Unhappy Shield Owners please read

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From time-to-time I read a post of an unhappy Shield owner and I wonder "why would anyone unhappy with one of the highest demand handguns not immediately sell their used Shield for more than retail?"

When I followed the many unhappy posts of the Beretta Nano I could understand the frustration I owned one of those garbage guns and you had to take a $100 loss to divorce yourself from the gun, but that just is not the case in today's gun market with regard to the Shield.

I have seen several used Shields sell for near retail in this inflated market.

MY POINT IS COUNT YOUR BLESSING IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY WITH YOUR SHIELD. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF UNHAPPY PEOPLE THAT WOULD LOVE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY BY PURCHASING YOUR SHIELD.

PLEASE DO EVERYONE WANTING A SHIELD A FAVOR...INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING MAKE A PERSON'S DAY AND SELL IT FOR A PROFIT AND TAKE THE MONEY AND SEEK COUNSELING BECAUSE YOU JUST SOLD THE FINEST CCW MONEY CAN BUY.

Russ
 
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RussC said:
..... BECAUSE YOU JUST SOLD THE FINEST CCW MONEY CAN BUY.

Russ
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Money can buy??? How much money, and where are you buying them? If you can't buy them, then what's the point? I'm not spending $600 today on a $350 gun of last month. By the time S&W fills the demand of the market and the prices stabalize, I figure I won't be owning one for about 2 years at a reasonable price. My guess is that by that time, there will be another latest and greatest. That maker will probably take the good features of the Shield, produce enough to meet demand, and not charge $30 for a magazine.

I have wanted a conceable, quality, single-stack 9 or 40 forever. Why it took the undustry this long to produce a quality model is beyond me. For years, the industry wound up gun owners into thinking they needed 15 rounds to solve a problem, where 3 would due. I can palm a basketball, and am still uncomfortable shooting double stack 9s. I'm sure others feel the same and with the women shooter's market heavily on the rise, S&W screwed the pooch by under-producing the Shield.

My wife refuses to let me buy her a Shield for more than it is truly worth. That's very common among women who, unlike men, won't overspend on guns due to emotion. Shoes maybe...but not guns. Here again, companies need to cater to their target market. So she's out shopping for a good holster for her G19. It's too bad, because other than the cluster that is S&W underproduction and rollout, the Shield is a nice gun...
 
josywales said:
Money can buy??? How much money, and where are you buying them? If you can't buy them, then what's the point? I'm not spending $600 today on a $350 gun of last month. By the time S&W fills the demand of the market and the prices stabalize, I figure I won't be owning one for about 2 years at a reasonable price. My guess is that by that time, there will be another latest and greatest. That maker will probably take the good features of the Shield, produce enough to meet demand, and not charge $30 for a magazine.

I have wanted a conceable, quality, single-stack 9 or 40 forever. Why it took the undustry this long to produce a quality model is beyond me. For years, the industry wound up gun owners into thinking they needed 15 rounds to solve a problem, where 3 would due. I can palm a basketball, and am still uncomfortable shooting double stack 9s. I'm sure others feel the same and with the women shooter's market heavily on the rise, S&W screwed the pooch by under-producing the Shield.

My wife refuses to let me buy her a Shield for more than it is truly worth. That's very common among women who, unlike men, won't overspend on guns due to emotion. Shoes maybe...but not guns. Here again, companies need to cater to their target market. So she's out shopping for a good holster for her G19. It's too bad, because other than the cluster that is S&W underproduction and rollout, the Shield is a nice gun...
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Josywales

I agree. The entire gun market is inflated. I sold my SKS This week for triple what I paid.

For the wise this is not a time to buy but sell.
Russ
 
RussC said:
PLEASE DO EVERYONE WANTING A SHIELD A FAVOR...INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING MAKE A PERSON'S DAY AND SELL IT FOR A PROFIT AND TAKE THE MONEY AND SEEK COUNSELING BECAUSE YOU JUST SOLD THE FINEST CCW MONEY CAN BUY.

Russ
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Not sure who pee'd in your Wheaties this morning... but really? I posted on here about issues with my Shield...is that complaining? I paid $399 for it and can sell it anytime I want on the local gun forums for $650. The problem is I wanted the Shield to work. I think it is perfect for its intended purposes which is WHY I bought it. I suppose you are one of these lucky individuals who never bought a vehicle that had problems, or an appliance that crapped out, or electronics that lasted for thirty years. If so, great. But any man made item can and will have problems. My Shield was one of those items.

To S&Ws credit they made it right and now the gun performs like it should have THE FIRST TIME.

I had assumed that this forum, like many others was for owners and prospective owners to share their experiences for the betterment of other owners and those considering a purchase. It seems to me however, if you have ANY negative comments about a Shield or other M&P product you are obviously a novice shooter that does not know what he is talking about.

The elite attitudes demonstrated will keep me off this site and on other ones in the future.

Enjoy your Kool-aid.
 
RussC said:
Josywales

I agree. The entire gun market is inflated. I sold my SKS This week for triple what I paid.

For the wise this is not a time to buy but sell.
Russ
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Agreed. Ironically, I got the M&P 22 Pistol and the M&P 22 AR, both at good prices the week after the incident. The pistol was just dumb luck and prompted by my wife's interest in CCW, and the Shield (this 22 makes a good trainer for the Shield). But the AR I had been wanting and just never got around to it. A LGS had the MOE version I wanted, so I grabbed it.

My beef with S&W is that the Shield availability was an issue before the panic.
 
No matter how well something is made you can bet that some will have problems. Just because a gun has a strong following does not mean that you keep it. I like my Shield and it is a great gun, BUT it is my only gun to have problems and two at that. The front sight is ok but the roll pin is a little bigger deal. If I felt I could not trust it I would get rid of it no matter what 99% of shield owners say. I love my Shield but if I did not and it was not reliable I would not count my blessing and sale it to someone for over retail so he can have problems
 
RussC said:
From time-to-time I read a post of an unhappy Shield owner and I wonder "why would anyone unhappy with one of the highest demand handguns not immediately sell their used Shield for more than retail?"

When I followed the many unhappy posts of the Beretta Nano I could understand the frustration I owned one of those garbage guns and you had to take a $100 loss to divorce yourself from the gun, but that just is not the case in today's gun market with regard to the Shield.

I have seen several used Shields sell for near retail in this inflated market.

MY POINT IS COUNT YOUR BLESSING IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY WITH YOUR SHIELD. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF UNHAPPY PEOPLE THAT WOULD LOVE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY BY PURCHASING YOUR SHIELD.

PLEASE DO EVERYONE WANTING A SHIELD A FAVOR...INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING MAKE A PERSON'S DAY AND SELL IT FOR A PROFIT AND TAKE THE MONEY AND SEEK COUNSELING BECAUSE YOU JUST SOLD THE FINEST CCW MONEY CAN BUY.

Russ
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....or maybe "the king wears no clothes" and the shield ISN'T the finest CCW money can buy. Yelling (i.e typing in caps)your opinion doesn't do anything to convince me I need counseling either. I've owned enough handguns ( Read: hundreds) in the last 30 years to know what i like. I'm sure I didn't a mistake in selling my ho-hum Shield a week after I bought it ( at a break even price.) Glad you enjoy yours, mine just didn't do anything better than my other CCW guns and did some things notably less perfect.
 
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RussC said:
PLEASE DO EVERYONE WANTING A SHIELD A FAVOR...SELL IT FOR A PROFIT AND TAKE THE MONEY AND SEEK COUNSELING BECAUSE YOU JUST SOLD THE FINEST CCW MONEY CAN BUY.

Russ
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I understand your point, but I feel the need to explain something...

The Shield is NOT the finest concealable handgun money can buy... :p

For what some of these guys are paying for a plastic Shield, they could pick up a new 4513TSW or 3913TSW and THEN they may have the finest concealable handgun money can buy... :D
 
josywales said:
I have wanted a conceable, quality, single-stack 9 or 40 forever. Why it took the undustry this long to produce a quality model is beyond me. For years, the industry wound up gun owners into thinking they needed 15 rounds to solve a problem, where 3 would due.
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Again, same answer, 3913. ;)

It's been around for a long time.
 
My shield is great....


.... It says "9c" on the slide.


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Lost Lake said:
Again, same answer, 3913. ;)

It's been around for a long time.
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Remember I said quality. I've always really liked my model 41 22lr, as well as S&W revolvers. I'm no S&W expert, but it's been a long time since I felt a good trigger on any S&W centerfire pistols. The only reason I gave the Shield a try was my brother bought one. Of course, his Bodyguard went back to S&W after only a month, so I'm not very encouraged about S&W modern pistols. I'll see if I can get a chance to shoot a 3913, maybe the Shield isn't the only model with an improved trigger. It would have to be a pre-rail.
 
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I owned a Shield, and it was fine. No malfunctions but I sold it for a reasonable offer. I replaced it with an S.A. XDS in .45 ACP. I am much happier with the XDS.
 
av8usn said:
I owned a Shield, and it was fine. No malfunctions but I sold it for a reasonable offer. I replaced it with an S.A. XDS in .45 ACP. I am much happier with the XDS.
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That's interesting. A friend who is partial to S&Ws, is chasing down an XDS. I might have to take a spin with his. My wife will still want a Shield and I have a couple on order. We'll see if they ever pan out for a reasonable cost. But again, I wouldn't mind giving the XDS a whirl.
 
av8usn said:
I owned a Shield, and it was fine. No malfunctions but I sold it for a reasonable offer. I replaced it with an S.A. XDS in .45 ACP. I am much happier with the XDS.
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With the price of 9mm these days 45 Auto is starting to look like a deal.

Russ
 
Lost Lake said:
I understand your point, but I feel the need to explain something...

The Shield is NOT the finest concealable handgun money can buy... :p

For what some of these guys are paying for a plastic Shield, they could pick up a new 4513TSW or 3913TSW and THEN they may have the finest concealable handgun money can buy... :D
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Lost Lake:

The 3913 is a very attractive firearm

However, I am a pocket guy. If I dropped a 3913 loaded down with 8 rounds into my front pocket I would have a wardrobe malfunction. :eek:

Russ
 
feelinlucky said:
Correct, except for one point.

There are numerous people who do not consider the Nano, "garbage".
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Feelinlucky

I respect your opinion.

I wanted my Nano to perform in the worst way. It is a tank of a gun but 1, 300 rounds later I gave up and threw in the towel.

Russ
 
RussC said:
With the price of 9mm these days 45 Auto is starting to look like a deal.

Russ
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And its great going to the store seeing nothing left on the shelf but .45. Then again, ive been buying .45 for a few years now. So it's all the same to me. No matter what caliber it is. If i own it, i have plenty of ammo for it. No need to shop around and pay those gouging prices, lol.

To a man, ammo is like tools. There is no such thing as too many or too much.

I have no problems with my Shield in .40........And I absolutely love my Shield that says 1911 on the side of it, lol. In fact i no longer own anything that has a "c". They have been replaced with more that say 1911.
 
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Wee Hooker said:
....or maybe "the king wears no clothes" and the shield ISN'T the finest CCW money can buy. Yelling (i.e typing in caps)your opinion doesn't do anything to convince me I need counseling either. I've owned enough handguns ( Read: hundreds) in the last 30 years to know what i like. I'm sure I didn't a mistake in selling my ho-hum Shield a week after I bought it ( at a break even price.) Glad you enjoy yours, mine just didn't do anything better than my other CCW guns and did some things notably less perfect.
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Dave

I used all caps to make a point. Yelling was not my intention and if you knew my personality the counseling comment was a joke.

I am glad you did not lose any money when you sold your Shield and that was my point with this post.

Unlike the new car that depreciates 1, 000s when you drive it off the lot the Shield in this crazy gun market can retain its retail value used.

Imagine if everything we purchased retained its retail value after you purchased it.

Heck, I would be buying and selling all kinds of recreational equipment if I knew there would be no depreciation after a couple months of enjoyment and if I had a lemon so what no skin off my nose I will just sell it for what I paid and buy something else.

Of course in the real world depreciation is a factor but for this moment in the world of guns depreciation is on hold so for those very few not happy with their Shield take comfort if you paid retail you will get your money back.

Russ
 
The XD-S is a nice gun. It is a handful but not as snappy as my Shield in .40. In fact I carried my XD-S tonight in trying out a Sticky Holster. That being said, The Shield in .40 seems to handle the recoil better than a Glock 23 I once owned iirc. It has been about 10 years since I've fired anything in .40 so I got a bit of a wakup call at the range today lol
 
If I'm being honest, the only gun I truly enjoy shooting in 40 is my full size EAA Witness. This is the older, steel version, not the polymer. The M&P full size 40 wasn't bad shooting either.
 
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