The Wild Bunch
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Mutiny on the Bounty with Marlon Brando.
UncleEd
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And after this version came one
that was actually pretty accurate
in the historic department. It
starred Mel Gibson as a rather
spoiled CHristian and a stuffy but
highly competent Bligh played
by Anthony Hopkins.
Mel should turn it over to Baz Luhrman. Baz seems to be able to get financing for his movies. Imagine The Wild Bunch in 3-D with garish colors (pink blood!) and a hip-hop soundtrack. And the producers would save money because they wouldn't need to hire all those stunt extras to get shot up at the end. They'd all be replaced by CGI figures. Brilliant. A cinch for Best Picture! I can't believe Mel hasn't already thought of this.
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31FordA
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I think the biggest problem with remaking a movie like "The Wild Bunch" is trying to come close to equaling the cast. You would have a really hard time matching the cast of the original today.
One upside to a remake, they could use actual Colt 1911's instead of Star's.
One upside to a remake, they could use actual Colt 1911's instead of Star's.
I don't know about that, Mel Gibson has made some good movies.
Absalom
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Just a side note:
There is a difference between a remake and telling the same story again.
The gazillion different Dracula movies from many countries and time periods aren't remakes of each other, but new treatments of the same literary material.
So you can argue that the new True Grit was a new adaptation of the book, not a remake of the old one.
But the Wild Bunch is an original movie, so using its storyline and script as the starting point for a new movie makes it a true remake. Just like the King Kong movies, which all go back to the 1933 script.
There is a difference between a remake and telling the same story again.
The gazillion different Dracula movies from many countries and time periods aren't remakes of each other, but new treatments of the same literary material.
So you can argue that the new True Grit was a new adaptation of the book, not a remake of the old one.
But the Wild Bunch is an original movie, so using its storyline and script as the starting point for a new movie makes it a true remake. Just like the King Kong movies, which all go back to the 1933 script.
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DWalt
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The ultimate remake was Psycho. The remake was an exact line by line, scene by scene duplicate of the original Hitchcock production, with the main difference being the cast. It wasn't very successful at the box office.
There were three remakes of "A Star is Born" with pretty much the exact same plot line as the 1937 original. I think that is a record. But each of the remakes was more modernized and contemporary than the preceding one. And of course with different casts. All of those remakes were successful, probably because all of them had big stars in leading roles. My personal favorite is the 1954 version with James Mason and Judy Garland. I have watched it at least five times. Mainly to see Judy Garland's singing performances, especially the "Born in a Trunk" sequence which is unforgettable.
There were three remakes of "A Star is Born" with pretty much the exact same plot line as the 1937 original. I think that is a record. But each of the remakes was more modernized and contemporary than the preceding one. And of course with different casts. All of those remakes were successful, probably because all of them had big stars in leading roles. My personal favorite is the 1954 version with James Mason and Judy Garland. I have watched it at least five times. Mainly to see Judy Garland's singing performances, especially the "Born in a Trunk" sequence which is unforgettable.
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First of all, find under 65 Hollywood types who can ride a horse. Plus
finding a Holden, Borgnine, Ryan, Oates and Ben Johnson,(a real Cowboy)
in todays actors. I almost forgot one of my favorites Strother Martin.
Who is going to fill their boots?
finding a Holden, Borgnine, Ryan, Oates and Ben Johnson,(a real Cowboy)
in todays actors. I almost forgot one of my favorites Strother Martin.
Who is going to fill their boots?
When I first heard about the True Grit remake my thought was Blasphemy! You can't re-do the Duke!
I watched it, and have been rewatching it for a while now and have to admit that I was wrong.
It's not really better, just different acting. I think Jeff Bridges did an excellent job of capturing the spirit of Rooster. Some classic scenes such as the two kids poking the mule with a stick. They got " teached". And his gun handling while shooting corn dodgers was something else, indeed!
But, of course, he WAS drunk
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Ghost Magnum
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I have little faith and hollywood these days.
This is a picture from some time ago that I call "the wild bunch."
It was taken at a SASS shoot quite a few years ago. An old friend and I and our wives posed for an old timey picture.
John
It was taken at a SASS shoot quite a few years ago. An old friend and I and our wives posed for an old timey picture.
John
THE PILGRIM
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Usually remakes aren't as good as the original.
But this one sounds interesting.
When it streams, I'll watch it.
But this one sounds interesting.
When it streams, I'll watch it.
Ivan the Butcher
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"Wild Bunch" is also the name of a class of Cowboy Action Shooting. Loosely based on the movie, the class uses a 1911 or 1911A1 (with multiple magazines loaded with 5 rounds), a lever action/pistol caliber rifle loaded up to 10 rounds) and an 1897 Winchester (or clone) that is loaded with up to 6 rounds.
I believe I have shot it 6 times. The only thing I won, was the time of my life! Unfortunately, as it became popular the "Cheaters", "Gamers", and "Rules Nazis" sucked every last bit of fun right out of it!
Ivan
I believe I have shot it 6 times. The only thing I won, was the time of my life! Unfortunately, as it became popular the "Cheaters", "Gamers", and "Rules Nazis" sucked every last bit of fun right out of it!
Ivan
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DWalt
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Depending on the location and local rules, the gun requirements can be more flexible. Winchester Model 12 shotguns are allowed, and also slide action rifles such as the Colt Lightning and also some early DA revolvers and semiautomatics other than the 1911. Most any gun used in, or that could have been used in, the movie were OK. Except no larger than handgun rifle calibers. And of course lead bullets only. And no M1917 MGs.
I participated in a few WB events, but they were more of an occasional novelty thing. That was more than 20 years ago for me.
I participated in a few WB events, but they were more of an occasional novelty thing. That was more than 20 years ago for me.
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Ivan the Butcher
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I even loaded up 200 rounds of lead bullet 30 Mauser for my C-96 and a friend had a couple hundred rounds of 455 Enfield for his old Brit top break. But the rules nazis wouldn't allow you to participate, with only "period correct" weapons. They tried to insist on buying complete WWI uniforms, but the Trail Bosses stomped on that idea!
Wild Bunch is the only time we were allowed more than 2 shots in a shotgun! And usually at least one scenario would have a shotgun target you would shoot all six shots into one target. With a 97 you just hold the trigger and pump! Slam firing is almost as fast (and as fun) as full auto!
I was surprised haw many 1911 owners didn't own 2, let alone 4 magazines, I could have sold hundreds (If I weren't hording them all!)
Ivan
remshooter
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the 2015ish Magnificent 7 remake was not as good as the original 1960 version ,they very seldom are
I spotted an O3-A3 in one of the scenes. Come on now!
Also how long would the HMG lasted without the water can??
I know I'm a nitpicker.
Also how long would the HMG lasted without the water can??
I know I'm a nitpicker.
Justin T
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I'll totally watch a Mel Gibson remake. He is a good filmmaker and still has some pretty good chops in front of the camera.
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