The Wonderful 845

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We have two of these in my family. One from each of the runs.

For those that do not know, the 845 was an experimental target version of the 745 designed back in the mid 1980s but never produced.

A relative of mine has the older model, The 845 Limited, product code 170064. These were produced in 1995-97. I have no idea how many Lew Horton had manufactured. The one pictured is his second and was recently acquired for him thanks to a fellow Forum member.

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One of this original run was the first 845 I had ever fired. This is what I had been wanting for years, a 45ACP successor to the model 52. This pistols shoots like a dream and I began a search for one of my own.

Eventually I came upon an 845 Model of 1998, product code 170097. Roughly 150 of these were produced. I grabbed it. It shoots just as well and adds front cocking serrations for those that like them.

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Both of these are exceptional pistols. If you are a model 52 shooter, you will love the 845. It is what the 952 should have been in feel and performance. Though I admit the 952 is pretty

The frame and slide of the 845s are hand lapped to each other. The titanium nitrite coated spherical bushing that surrounds the match grade barrel not only makes racking the slide butter smooth, it also contributes to the one hole accuracy of the pistol. I have always liked the picture provided by the Bomar rear sight. In fact my old model 52 is fitted with a Bomar rib. These use the same magazines as the 645/745/4506 family of auto-loaders so mags are never going to be an issue like they are today with the model 52s.

Here are the two 845 pistols together

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I am certain that we have other 845 owners and shooters out there. Perhaps they can also chime in on what I think is one of, If not the most understated and unknown Target pistols that Smith and Wesson has produced in the last several decades.
 
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Thanks for the side-by-side pictures of the two versions & sharing your story. They look good, but I'm biased. ;)

Oddly enough, the 845 was THE 3rd Gen. that got me started adoring these guns. It was a lucky find that apparently had sat for a while at a LGS (improperly identified model#) waiting for me to notice it. They definitely have the slickest action I've ever handled. It shoots crazy accurate (even free-hand with my aging eyes) & cycles smoothly. (I have to hide it from my son when he comes over or I can't get it out of his hands.) Mine was made in Jan-1996.

Pardon me if I pile on with a couple of pictures of mine. :D

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Great threa and awesome pics. Love this design.

Not to highjack and, certainly not my sale, but a 645 just popped up on the used gun shelf at Kittery Trading Post. $545 I think it was, with box and extra mag.

Cheers,

d
 
i agree its a great shooter!

my dad and i ordered 2 of these in 1996 (when they first came out) to use for Bullseye shooting. He shot with the Army back in the 60's and was convinced this was a better gun than any others out there. After ~20 years of trying to find a more accurate shooter at 50 and 25 yds. i can say personally there is not one that i have come across - (of course this means i have several good examples to compare it to now and greatly enjoy collecting data on the topic ;))
if you can hold it and remember the fundamentals before squeezing the trigger - it will do what it is supposed to every time.
here is a pic i took after doing a test fire for a reload recipe.
 

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What has surprised me that given the limited number out there when one pops up on this forum for sale it usually isn't a lot of money[haven't seen one offered in awhile] and the last one I saw on Gunbroker a few months back didn't go for very much either?
Not as puuurty as a 952 certainly but still a very nice shooting pistol.
I have a first run model.
 
i think there were at least two runs. in the first run (what i got one from) there were 500 made to my understanding.

it is kind of strange they don't go for more. To my memory, we paid something like $1200 each in 1996. some of the first Bullseye matches i shot with it drew some nasty comments from the other guys, who understandably did not like to see non-1911 based guns allowed in the .45 stage, until they saw it shoot - but of course it did not make any of them run out and get one. I have never seen any others personally either, other than the ones in the family. i have since aquired vintage NM and GC 1911's which draw less attention at the matches and are equal to the 845 and i suppose are "proper" to shoot for Bullseye crowd. It is still kind of cool to have Model 41, 52 and 845 for all three stages :)

but then again, i also use High Standard Model 106 Military and 1960 Colt NM for same - also just as accurate and just as much fun.
 
I started with a 645... Owned a few of those, got tired of the "combat" accuracy level. Got a 745...whooaa, now we're talkin, but still lacked some refinement. Not knowing how awesome they were, found a smokin' deal on a 945-1...favorite 45 since... Been looking for an 845 for a while now, lamented over not buying the $900 billboard version I thought was too expensive some years ago. Through a referral on a post here did find the 845's little bro; the PC .40 limited....it is sweet.
 
i think there were at least two runs. in the first run (what i got one from) there were 500 made to my understanding.

it is kind of strange they don't go for more. To my memory, we paid something like $1200 each in 1996. some of the first Bullseye matches i shot with it drew some nasty comments from the other guys, who understandably did not like to see non-1911 based guns allowed in the .45 stage, until they saw it shoot - but of course it did not make any of them run out and get one. I have never seen any others personally either, other than the ones in the family. i have since aquired vintage NM and GC 1911's which draw less attention at the matches and are equal to the 845 and i suppose are "proper" to shoot for Bullseye crowd. It is still kind of cool to have Model 41, 52 and 845 for all three stages :)

but then again, i also use High Standard Model 106 Military and 1960 Colt NM for same - also just as accurate and just as much fun.

I'm curious as what your hand load recipe is for the 845?
 
Last 845 that appeared on Gunbroker sold for $2,000. If you flip the calendar back to the spring/summer of 2014, a few 845's appeared consecutively and sellers simply could -NOT- get $1,400 for them.

When you compare an 845 to the most produced pre-1911 true Performance Center handgun (all variants of the 952), the market and "value" is simply not correct and the real world does not reflect the value of the 845. Either that or the 952 is royally inflated.

I am not saying the 845 is "better" than the 952, but there are FAR fewer of them and there seems to be no doubt in anyone's mind that the 845 is every single bit as good as any/every/all 952 pistols ever made... just so happens that there are far fewer 845 pistols in existence.

Now, a good question...
Is the 845 a better handgun than the 952?
Difficult to answer... but any time I have come across someone who happens to own one of each, their conclusion is yes, the 845 is better.

I have an 845 and it is phenomenal and I am starting to wonder if I'll ever (EVER!) own a pistol that's as good as my 845. And it seems like attempting to find out will take a heap of money and some seriously good luck.
 

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Top 52-2
Mid 845
Bottom 952-1
They're arranged in my order of preference. I am not a Bulls-Eye shooter, enjoy owning and shooting well made, accurate guns.
The "52" is my "giggle gun". It's so much fun to shoot and amazingly accurate I often end up giggling when I shoot it. Brass ends up in a nice neat pile beside my right foot.
Bought the 845 used locally where it was listed as a 645 Performance Center model. Very accurate and has that pleasant 45acp recoil.
Went to the LGS to look at the above 52-2. Told the young sales clerk what I was looking for, he brought out the 952 by mistake. Wasn't familiar w/952's, did notice the price tag of $800 though, about what a nice 52 went for back then.
Ended up looking at and buying the 52. When I got home I researched 952's and within a few minutes was on the phone w/LGS putting it on hold. Put quite a hole in my gun budget in 2 days.
952 is accurate, a good gun, but just doesn't ring my bell the way the other 2 do.
I've got an older 41 and a couple of slant grip High Standards I'm rather passionate about.
Kevin
 
I was never able to find an 845 but do have two of the 745s with the Millett sights and also have two 52-2s. Now if only an 845 would come along to "mate with my singleton 645". Dave_n
 
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