There Are Sheep, There Are Wolves, Then There Are Sheepdogs. What Are You?
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StatesRightist
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What can I say, I like simple black and white concepts. They can't be manipulated or misused by the the "intellectuals" or politicians.
I have no issue with good people who work hard and say little in a normal world, however, in this climate where the Country is teetering economically, morally, socially etc we need people to speak up for what's right and oppose what's wrong. Apathy is one of the diseases killing this country.
I will admit to engaging in rhetoric to make a point from time to time, but it is effective. Either way, I'm not really up for the verbal judo at the moment, so I'll end with have a good night.
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I was taught to always be a Gentleman, and to always protect Women. I take that very seriously, and the sheepdog moniker is apt.
A few years ago I had a conversation with my youngest daughter that I think demonstrates my feelings on the issue. She is my youngest child, and I love her older brother and sister just as much as I do her, but she's "Daddies Girl". Most of the Fathers will understand.
She was, at the time, about 11 years old, and we were apparently watching the news and something about terrorism was on. I told her "I want you to understand something. We live in a very dangerous world, and there are people out there who would possibly harm or kill us, but I'm going to make you a promise: If anyone ever threatens your safety, and I am there, there will only be two possible outcomes: I will protect you, however I need to, or I will die in the process. As long as there is breath in my body,and consciousness in my brain, I will fight with whatever weapons I have at my disposal to keep you safe, or I will die in the process, there will be NO middle ground".
I am not a big guy. Don't look imposing, but I am not in fear of anybody. Yes, I carry a gun, usually two, and I know how to use them, but that is the ultimate last resort. I will avoid it at all costs. I also am a professional armed Bodyguard, and have, numerous times, been paid by terrified Women to protect them. I have this same attitude with regards to them. Some people, especially anti-gunners, see this as bravado......I see it as being a Man.
I suspect I'm not alone with that thought here on the Forum.
Jim
A few years ago I had a conversation with my youngest daughter that I think demonstrates my feelings on the issue. She is my youngest child, and I love her older brother and sister just as much as I do her, but she's "Daddies Girl". Most of the Fathers will understand.
She was, at the time, about 11 years old, and we were apparently watching the news and something about terrorism was on. I told her "I want you to understand something. We live in a very dangerous world, and there are people out there who would possibly harm or kill us, but I'm going to make you a promise: If anyone ever threatens your safety, and I am there, there will only be two possible outcomes: I will protect you, however I need to, or I will die in the process. As long as there is breath in my body,and consciousness in my brain, I will fight with whatever weapons I have at my disposal to keep you safe, or I will die in the process, there will be NO middle ground".I am not a big guy. Don't look imposing, but I am not in fear of anybody. Yes, I carry a gun, usually two, and I know how to use them, but that is the ultimate last resort. I will avoid it at all costs. I also am a professional armed Bodyguard, and have, numerous times, been paid by terrified Women to protect them. I have this same attitude with regards to them. Some people, especially anti-gunners, see this as bravado......I see it as being a Man.
I suspect I'm not alone with that thought here on the Forum.
Jim
COL Jagdog
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I guess, that as a lawyer, that makes me a reptile.
Reptiles are survivors as their brains are oriented to survival instincts.
They are also very attuned to their environment and able to adapt to evolving circumstances. And as anyone who has watched an alligator guard a nest with eggs or with young gators, they are very protective of their young.
In a serious vein, I think it is very difficult to categorize people -- there are those who are dysfunctional and who may be apt to become predators and society has dealt with that for centuries -- as far as "sheep" are concerned, I have seen ordinary men and women in combat zones perform in an exemplary fashion -- they knew their mission and their MOS and they executed their combat drills as they had been trained to do -- many were young kids, only a year or two out of high school -- and I think that in the civilian world, no one would pick them out of a crowd -- yet they were the ones who would most likely respond to an emergency situation and try to do the right thing. So, I am not big on the idea that people can be so easily categorized other than do they have a good moral compass or not -- do they have a deep sense of what is right and what is wrong and do they govern their conduct accordingly.
Reptiles are survivors as their brains are oriented to survival instincts.
They are also very attuned to their environment and able to adapt to evolving circumstances. And as anyone who has watched an alligator guard a nest with eggs or with young gators, they are very protective of their young.
In a serious vein, I think it is very difficult to categorize people -- there are those who are dysfunctional and who may be apt to become predators and society has dealt with that for centuries -- as far as "sheep" are concerned, I have seen ordinary men and women in combat zones perform in an exemplary fashion -- they knew their mission and their MOS and they executed their combat drills as they had been trained to do -- many were young kids, only a year or two out of high school -- and I think that in the civilian world, no one would pick them out of a crowd -- yet they were the ones who would most likely respond to an emergency situation and try to do the right thing. So, I am not big on the idea that people can be so easily categorized other than do they have a good moral compass or not -- do they have a deep sense of what is right and what is wrong and do they govern their conduct accordingly.
Will Carry
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I am a lamb of God. The Lord is my Shepard.
Joewisc
US Veteran
Maybe not quite relevant but since you brought up wolves and sheep, I am reminded of this great quote from Ben Franklin on why our nation was established as a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy:
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
What he said ^
Analogies are like ice cubes.................
Art Doc
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
I'm the bear minding his own business.
Not a sheep. I refuse to be a helpless victim. That's why I studied karate for 39 years and regularly pack a gun.
Not a wolf. I am not violent by nature nor am I criminal.
Not a sheepdog. Sorry, I would not come to the defense of a stranger unless it was the most explicit of circumstances. I would be MOST reluctant to involve myself in a situation not concerning me directly. (Do the words Treyvon Martin ring a bell?)
Not a sheep. I refuse to be a helpless victim. That's why I studied karate for 39 years and regularly pack a gun.
Not a wolf. I am not violent by nature nor am I criminal.
Not a sheepdog. Sorry, I would not come to the defense of a stranger unless it was the most explicit of circumstances. I would be MOST reluctant to involve myself in a situation not concerning me directly. (Do the words Treyvon Martin ring a bell?)
Exactly. The self professed "sheepdogs" worry me as much as the folks they derisively refer to as sheep. And I think there is truly a derogatory context when most of them say it.
A few months ago I was walking into WalMart. Off duty, I aim to be as invisible as possible. T shirt and jeans, or shorts, weather depending. My footwear is usually the most recently retired pair of running shoes I have. Nothing to draw attention to myself, cuz I'm not big on attention. Out walks this guy, about 250 pounds ( not well built 250 either) sporting 5.11 style khaki's, tan hiking boots, and a "Sheepdog" t shirt. Yeah, right. Aside from his little 'shoot me first' outfit that just screams "COP" to anyone looking, I'm doubtful he could do much shepherding if he needed to. But, I got a chuckle out of it so it was all good.
model70hunter
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I was a single parent. All 3 of my children were taught manners, respect and work ethics. All 3 are outstanding citizens. My son was a Marine in Desert Storm.
Once while discussing life about when they were young and I was parenting inc, they told me that when they were wronged my parenting instinct was that of a Mother Lion. Mother Lion???? Well I guess ROAR!!
Once while discussing life about when they were young and I was parenting inc, they told me that when they were wronged my parenting instinct was that of a Mother Lion. Mother Lion???? Well I guess ROAR!!
I don't consider myself a sheep, sheepdog or wolf. When I joined the Army in 1955 I took an oath to defend the Constitution. Although I've been out of the Army for some 40 years, I don't consider myself to be absolved of my oath. I will defend my country and I will do what I can to make this a better country for us all.
MaximumLawman
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It would have been cooler if he would have used Eggplant and Walrus.
Which is exactly why most people won't get involved. In Chicago, they would indict the individual who came to their defense.. Expecially if the responder used any type of firearm. They have only one agenda...control the masses...never let them defend themselves and make them completely dependent on the politicians.
Well I'm a sheepdawg but it's because I had long hair at one time.
As a municipal police officer by definition I'm a sheepdog. However I often look upon those people who have no respect for themselves or anyone else around them, with utter disgust.
The whole Wolf, Sheep, Sheepdog thing was coined by Col. Grossmen to allow military and law enforcment a mental seperation from those around them. This is supposed to instill confedence in those tasked with a demanding and usually thankless task. An ego boost so to speak.
I attended one of his semenars a couple of years ago. When I went I was burned out and generally demotivated. His seminar was just what I needed, exactly when when I needed it.
I realize that being called a sheep is very off-putting. However I don't think it was intended to insult the masses, so much as bolster the few charged with protecting them.
In the end I don't want to be a hero, I just want to be able to say to my maker that I tried to make a diffrence.
The whole Wolf, Sheep, Sheepdog thing was coined by Col. Grossmen to allow military and law enforcment a mental seperation from those around them. This is supposed to instill confedence in those tasked with a demanding and usually thankless task. An ego boost so to speak.
I attended one of his semenars a couple of years ago. When I went I was burned out and generally demotivated. His seminar was just what I needed, exactly when when I needed it.
I realize that being called a sheep is very off-putting. However I don't think it was intended to insult the masses, so much as bolster the few charged with protecting them.
In the end I don't want to be a hero, I just want to be able to say to my maker that I tried to make a diffrence.
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