Thinking of getting an integral suppressor.

[bburnette252]

Oh I've fired a round or two through my two cans.



15-22, Ruger 22/45, Sig522 SWAT, Savage FV-SR, Ruger MKIII Talo

Dude!! Nice guns!


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[bburnette252]

So you are planning on buying another 15-22 with integral suppressor (over $1000, not including stamp) as opposed to just a can... simply because you don't want to buy subsonic ammo? And by doing so, not have the opportunity to share the suppressor between other rimfires?

Do you realize how much subsonic ammo you could buy for what you are gonna pay? I too shoot on my own property (20 acres, not in my backyard) and would hate to think I was limited to just one gun. I don't have a huge stash of guns but I do so love shooting my 15-22, CZ 455 & 2 Buck Marks suppressed on my own land.

Of course it your decision, but you asked. I think it a bad decision to limit a suppressor, which is expensive & not easy to get, to just one gun. As stated, if you want to shoot high velocity, just get another stamp for the SBR. It will be cheaper in the long run & you will have lots of flexibility.

I don't doubt SBR is in my future.

I hate to be the dumb newb but.... What does SBR stand for?


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[RedNeck Jim]

I hate to be the dumb newb but.... What does SBR stand for?

Short barrel Rifle. Either the barrel is too short or the overall gun length is too short. In this case, you have to get a stamp prior to making it short... just like buying a suppressor or fully automatic rifle.

Where it applies here, is with a short barrel, high velocity ammo will not reach the speed of sound and cause the loud sonic crack.

So to shoot a SBR gun with a removable suppressor, you need two stamps from the BTAFE... one for SBR & one for the suppressor. With an integral suppressor, they can shorten the barrel length without the stamp because the suppressor is permanently attached. This requires only one stamp but you lose the flexibility of using the suppressor for multiple guns/ multiple users (trust).

 

[vipermd]

SBR: BBL less than 16" or overall length less than 26"

 

[Orions]

This is true, but the NFA item(s) are held in the trustee's possession until a tax stamp returns to the heir..... they waive the tax, but not the wait....

If your heirs are on the trust with you, the trust owns the items, not the individual.... no transfer needed at all....

Always wondered about that. If an heir is inheriting how does the original owner hold possession during the wait? Wouldn't they be dead?

 

[roadkill45]

it's basically a 'living' revocable trust. you run the trust as the administrator, then you have all the people who will get it after you croak listed as the co-admins. Mine goes from me to my wife, then to my daughter, then to my eldest grandson when he is 21. another good thing is that you can add anything to the list of property, schedule A, like all of your guns, expensive stuff, and that keeps it out of probate.

also if you have a person who wants to borrow your NFA item, you just type them in as one of the persons eligible on the trust, can be a separate piece of paper, then just have it notarized and he/she can take a copy of the trust and play with your toy as long as you want them too.
then you just remove their name from it, no need to notarize again. i don't lend mine out, but it is an option.

actually if you have an 'individual' form 4, and you are at the range and let your wife shoot your NFA gun, then you are 'word of the law' illegally transferring an NFA item!!!!!! I got this straight from a BATFE agent, although then never enforce it unless you are being a jerk or something, then they could if they wanted.

the trust just basically keeps the guns in the family w/o any court ruckus about transfers and ownership, kind of like a will. you can also go the LLC route, although more expensive, the can is owned by your LLC so it works the same way.
Don't buy into the 'gun trusts' that the lawyers are hacking!!! it is the same revocable trust with a different name, all the rules are the same, they just want to scare someone into paying them $600+ to process paperwork you can get online or from Quicken.