This is not a drill!: S&W 4586's at Bud's for $259 delivered!!!

[Derosa]

Ordered mine at 0700 hours yesteday. I was the 50th (yes) caller in line. Should be here in a day or so. I am so happy. My first S&W auto. I have heard it is heavy. Heavy? Who cares? What is heavy? I carried a Model 19 .357 with a 6 inch in a shoulder and also a belt for years. Also carry an XD 45 Tactical 5 inch at times. It is all relative. I will let you know when it comes in. Bud's was great to me.

 

[alde]

KO41, thanks for the great photos. Looks like a decent pistol at a great price. If it shoots good who cares about a few marks. It's a service pistol after all.

I just mailed my money order Monday and they probably won't get it till Thursday. I won't see mine until next week. I may just have to take off work the day my dealer gets it. Been workin too much anyway and need a day to myself (and the new pistol of course).

 

[postmastertim]

Got mine last night, just a little pitting on the top of the slide.

 

[Landric]

I picked mine up at the dealer this morning. Its in good shape mechanically, doesn't appeard to have been shot a lot, though its clearly been fired. Outside, it has a couple of freckles and some holster wear. It has the Hogue grips (which means I will have to replace them with factory grips, I don't like the Hogues-but I think have a spare factory set hanging around somewhere). There appears to be a little rust under the grips, and the trigger has a bit of surface rust. I haven't had a chance to get it into the dark, but it appears that the night sights are mostly or all dead. Trijicon will relamp those if I decide to have it done, so that isn't an issue.

Mine is a Newport News PD gun for sure. The magazine in the pistol has "NNPD" etched on the bottom. It came in a 4586 box, but the box is marked with a different serial number. There was a fired case in the box dated 1-14-2004, long after production of the regular 3rd Generations ceased, and the box is marked "Special Order". I'm a little bummed that I didn't get the gun that the box is for, no doubt its a newer production gun than the one I got.

All in all I'm pleased for $259 shipped. I bought it as a shooter, not a collectors item, and I will be shooting it. Here are some pics:

 

[deanodog]

Just wondering what would cause the pitting on some of the guns pictured. I know that stainless can rust but I wonder what kind of care they go through to get that bad.

 

[Landric]

I can tell you from experience that police guns get knocked around and abused regularly. Going in and out of the holster over and over again causes the shiny spots and wear marks, the grips get beat up knocking into things, but especially the door frames and driver's doors of cruisers. The big problem with rust and pitting is the guns getting wet and then being left in holsters, especially leather holsters. Its hard to go home and get movitated to clean a gun after spending hours in the rain directing traffic, working a wreck, etc., get off a 12 hour shift late, and then have to be back at work in less than 10 hours. Eat, sleep, get up, go back to work. No time or desire to clean the wet gun left in the duty rig. The cycle repeats and there you have it.

Police guns may or may not get shot a lot, but they all get a lot of abuse from being carried in the open in all kinds of weather and conditions.

 

[18DAI]

Hmm....Newport News.....salt water/high humidity. Add the fact that most LEO's look at their gun as just a tool and rarely shoot it, let alone examine or clean it.

And it's stainless steel! SS is impervious to everything....right?

Those stainless steel 3rd generations can be brought back to like new by a trip back to Springfield for refinishing. IIRC they even restore the laser etched markings on those models so finished.

Nice 4586 Landric! I can't wait to see you shoot it in a match. Best regards 18DAI.

 

[ko41]

....did your box match the pistol and if so, what was the Julian date?

Nope, my pistol came in a UPS bag inside a UPS box.

KO

 

[BruceB]

I got to see mine at the FFL a few minutes ago, but couldn't take it away as the Fed. site is down so we couldn't complete the transfer.

It looks to be in better external shape than the one Landric received, and a cursory inspection seems to show that it wasn't fired much. The night sights are probably pretty dead, the rear sight was so filthy you couldn't see the dots.
It has original S&W grips.

This is my first S&W .45, so I was quite interested in the feel of it. My hands (fingers?) are just a little short to be totally comfortable with a proper grip on a double-stack like my 5906. This 4586 allowed me to get more trigger finger than needed, well past the first knuckle.

One question though - the listing is gone from Bud's, but were these supposed to come with 2 magazines ? the invoice/order doesn't specify, and I didn't print the product page when I ordered it. This one only came with one.

 

[Philip Marlowe]

New member here. I'll be picking up my 4586 tomorrow. I'm expecting some typical carry wear. I don't think it's worth it to have one refinished, and new grips installed. Before you know it, you spent more than what you could have on a nicer civilian owned one.

Years ago, I lucked out on a 4506 for 350.00, that was a police trade in. It was truly mint inside and out. Showed no signs of being fired, no wear at all. It was ignored by the shoppers since it appeared to have heavy corrosion on the slide. Turned out to be dirty gum residue from a long sticker that was on the slide. . A little alcohol, and it was gone. A cop working the gun show said it was probably a vault gun, a spare kept in the vault.

I can post pics tomorrow, if anyone wants them

 

[Philip Marlowe]

I got to see mine at the FFL a few minutes ago, but couldn't take it away as the Fed. site is down so we couldn't complete the transfer.

It looks to be in better external shape than the one Landric received, and a cursory inspection seems to show that it wasn't fired much. The night sights are probably pretty dead, the rear sight was so filthy you couldn't see the dots.
It has original S&W grips.

This is my first S&W .45, so I was quite interested in the feel of it. My hands (fingers?) are just a little short to be totally comfortable with a proper grip on a double-stack like my 5906. This 4586 allowed me to get more trigger finger than needed, well past the first knuckle.

One question though - the listing is gone from Bud's, but were these supposed to come with 2 magazines ? the invoice/order doesn't specify, and I didn't print the product page when I ordered it. This one only came with one.

yes, it should have 2 clips.

 

[BruceB]

Thanks!

I called Bud's and they are mailing the second magazine to me.

Good service!

 

[Scotter260]

KO: No eloquent way to put it, that sucks!

My 4586TSW and 4553TSW arrived at my dealer's yesterday and were both packaged, along with all the mags, in the 4586TSWs box, at least the box matches the 4586TSW. According to my dealer the Spec. Ord. # is 7207 so I'm hoping the night sights will be pretty fresh. No pics until at least Friday though.

It's nice to see so many people who've never owned a Smith and Wesson taking this opportunity to try one out, thanks for sharing everyone.

 

[ko41]

One question though - the listing is gone from Bud's, but were these supposed to come with 2 magazines ? the invoice/order doesn't specify, and I didn't print the product page when I ordered it. This one only came with one.

My spare mag was wrapped up in a bag and it looked like it was just some packing material, so it was a good thing that I checked it before throwing it away.

KO

 

[deanodog]

I got my 4586 today and was very suprised at the condition. No rust, pits, holster wear and was very clean. It came in correct box with warranty paper and vapor paper. The night sights are dim. I have a 4553 coming later but I think I used all my luck up on this one. The 4553 will probably look like it was used for a hockey puck.

 

[Scotter260]

Outstanding, new grips and from the looks of it no one would know it's a trade-in.

 

[BruceB]

Mine finally made it home.

Serial number is BDJ16xx and it came in a box for BDJ22xx with the fired casing dated in Sept 2005.

Maybe we can start a program to get the boxes back to the correct owners

 

[alde]

Mine finally made it home.

Serial number is BDJ16xx and it came in a box for BDJ22xx with the fired casing dated in Sept 2005.

Maybe we can start a program to get the boxes back to the correct owners

I'm up for that if I get a box.

 

[Philip Marlowe]

Does S&W mark the slide with the serial number to match the frame?

 

[jlanecole]

I've never seen a slide marked with the SN, but I'd be pretty hesitant to say "never."