Thoughts on the SIG P 220 CARRY..

[tops]

Larry,
Where is your reliability issue? Feeding, Ejecting? Cycling?

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The empties eject so I guess it is feeding and cycling. I have a Pre 70 Colt 1911A1 that works good with the same load. I have a S&W 1917 and he has a M625-? and both of them use the load with and without clips with out a problem. The bullet is a 200 gr. Oregon SWC and I use 6 gr. of Unique and he use 6.5 grs. If we changed the crimp it might make a difference but since it feeds ball and HPs he is happy. Larry

 

[Texas Star]

SIG P-220 will be along soon, I guess. But he's carried his as a FBI special agent for about 30 years and is delighted with it. The Bureau is mostly Glockland these days, but his gun is grandfathered-in.

My son and his wife have several SIG's and really like them. That says a bunch, as he is especially a Colt Govt. Model .45 and Browning HP fan.

Both the Euro and American P-220's fit my hand VERY well, about as well as any pistol ever has. I think I slightly prefer the American grip frame. The rounded hammer will not jam you in the ribs like the older pointed one might, given appendix carry in an inside the waistband holster.

I prefer the older, basic gun. I hate those big duck - tailed tangs on any guns, inc. 1911's.

There were slide rusting issues with some SIG's. Others here know more about that than I do. Doesn't apply to stainless slides, though.

I'd stay with the 4.4 inch barrel. The .45 needs barrel length to do its best, and you're already at less than the original 5" length of a 1911.

If the high bore axis doesn't bother you and the slide doesn't rust, you should be very happy with the P-220. And if the slide rides higher than on some guns, you are less likely to get the recoiling slide trapped in the cuff of your parka, as a Browning 9mm once did to me. I went back to revolvers for cold weather carry. Thank God, that didn't happen in a fight; it was on the range. Took awhile to get the slide/tang loose and I had to remove the parka.

 

[ditrina]

Ok Ok OK....

You all convinced me.. I'm headed to the LGS tomorrow and the SIG will be mine tomorrow..

Soooo Is this like waiting on Christmas Eve?? Pic's up as soon as I can..( with a range report )

Thank you all for your input..

 

[M29since14]

Both the Euro and American P-220's fit my hand VERY well, about as well as any pistol ever has...

I prefer the older, basic gun. I hate those big duck - tailed tangs on any guns, inc. 1911's...

Hey, T-Star, I hope your ranting about 1911 duckbills doesn't turn off the supply. One of those done right helps me get my hand as high on the gun as possible while avoiding hammer-bite. I like the good ones, but I do admit, some of them done wrong are "way too much of a good thing" and thus unsightly.

As to the P220 ergonomics, I agree that they have the basic shape down properly (mainly because they did not deviate too much from the 1911-angle) but the surface of the stocks and lack of frontstrap checkering allows a P220 .45 to fly around in my hand, necessitating adjusting my grip all the time. Hogue stocks cure that, but change the feel of the gun. The Hogue Handall and standard stocks is my solution. It's a shame they couldn't be bothered to give us some frontstrap checkering. The new-design "improved" SIG stocks are even more slippery than the older ones with molded checkering. Progress...

 

[Arik]

Just too add something completely irrelevant to the question but Sig related. ..... I bought a beautiful W. German 228 right after new years. Beautiful gun, deep bluing. Just nice all around German craftsmanship. Grip felt a little too wide (and I like wide grips) but I thought I could get used to it. Nope! My shots were all left of POA, I was fighting the gun. Well I ended up selling it. The good thing about these type of guns is they never really loose value so I got my money back. The whole thing was just weird because the 228 is just a short 226 and I like the grip of the 226....weird.

After I sold it I happened to walk into a lgs and what do you know? They have the original P220 in 9mm with heal release. Dates back to 1977. So now I have that on layaway and from the looks of it the mags are unubtainium! May have to do layaway on mags if I can find any!

 

[M29since14]

Top Gun Supply will usually have the mags, but they are not cheap wherever you find them.

 

[BAM-BAM]

My W Ger 220 will shoot cloverleafs at 50

My 2 245s are my carry 45s.

 

[MOONDAWG]

When the SIG P-220 first made it's US debut it was as the "Browning BDA" and came with the European "heel clip" magazine release.

I bought one of the first one's to hit the Florida Gulf Coast in the late 1970's.

The Spousal Unit got too "jumpy" around the condition one (cocked & locked) Colt 1911 I carried off duty at the time; so I switched to the BDA. If one "dressed around" it there was no more of an issue than the 1911. Except finding holsters for in back in 1977.

The cell phone photo of an "old photo" isn't too clear, but you can plainly see the European "heel clip" that slowed reload times by half.

 

[Arik]

Top Gun Supply will usually have the mags, but they are not cheap wherever you find them.

I've heard. Mucho $$$$$

My W Ger 220 will shoot cloverleafs at 50

My 2 245s are my carry 45s.

My W. German Sig P220 will out shoot my Springfield TRP 1911 and my 4566

 

[john1950]

As I recall, Any Sig P-220 seven round magazine (the older style one with the metal floor plate) will work. The heel catch locks to the floor plate.
Loves the Sigs. Owned many 220's. Now have a P-220 from 2001 and a P-245 from 1999.
EDC lately has been a Sig P-938. Fantastic.

 

[john1950]

Oops. He said 9mm. Great pistols. Mags are very expensive.

 

[M29since14]

Pic's up as soon as I can..( with a range report )

Thank you all for your input..

Well, we're waiting...

(And always happy to help you spend your money. )

 

[inspcalahan]

Ok Ok OK....

You all convinced me.. I'm headed to the LGS tomorrow and the SIG will be mine tomorrow..

Late to the party, but I see there's no need to try for more convincing. Stick with factory magazines, quality ammo and you'll never have a hiccup. Hands down one of the best semi .45s made. Congrats!

 

[rabbit hunter]

Look as long as you want. You won't find a better SA/DA semi auto. It is reliable & accurate. I have & shoot the P220 & the P220 Carry. I even have the P245 (old world pre 220). I love 'em all, but at my advanced age I can only carry a J frame airweight now. Arthritic hips are a bummer.

 

[rt11002003]

I'm with rabbit hunter on the arthritic hips: it's the main reason I carry a Kimber SOLO. But, back to SIGS. I have a couple of their .45's but, not the p220. Tried to get a p220 X-6 last year, however SIG had/has a custom issue/problem; couldn't/can't import the guns. Same with a p210 I wanted.

The German guns appeal to me more; I have three. The US guns are OK, providing you stay from years mentioned above. I have two good 1911 US SIG's. The German pressed slides are prone to rust.

Buy a p220, German if possible (if not, the US models are better than most of us), shoot it and keep it. You'll never be sorry.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Add me to the list of fans of the P220. It has been the official HD pistol of our house for the last 3 years. It goes to the range at least every other week.

Sometimes it even gets to go bowling.

 

[DASH1]

P220

Does the grip fit your hand? Is it comfortable for you to shoot? Are you accurate with it? I carried a 2 tone for 8 years before retiring from the Austin PD. it was my favorite gun to shoot next to my S&W model 28 Highway Patrolman in .357 mag. The P220 had a perfect fit for my hand and was an extension of my arm. The sight picture was excellent. Never had a jam, stove pipe, or misfire. Shoot it a few time and see what you think. Hopefully you will get the same feeling of oneness that I had with it. Only problem I ever has were some mags with cracked lips. That was almost 20 years ago so I bet that is no longer a problem.

 

[adams484]

Plus one on that...

Stone reliable. I say the same for any third gen S&W, too. Just my two cents.

I have an 220 Equinox prior to plastic. It has a butter smooth trigger and fairly light double action. Not as good double action as the P250 DAO but way superior to most DA/SA guns. Being an Equinox and supposedly from SIG's performance center I can't say the regular 220 is the same but my guess is that it is. I think the Equinox is just nights sights added and decoration. SIG is a respectable outfit with quality handguns from my experience but I still carry a S&W 5906, 915, and 645 and trust them as much or more.

But my 220 is quality all the way and on my hip as I write this and been there all day too. Heavy is only if your someone who doesn't eat their Wheaties or can't keep their pants up anyway heavy gun or not. Come on... 38.9 oz fully loaded... is heavy? My 645 is 47 oz and I am 62 years old and I carry it all day as well. The recoil from those featherweights is more obnoxious to me then the extra 5 or 6 oz. The 220 is a 45 and should have some weight to it to keep you on target.

If the weight bothers you get a J-Frame.

My 3.5 cents worth...

 

[Gperlow]

I own my Sig P220 carry and it is awesome. I use it now is my off duty weapon. It is accurate and reliable as well as easy to clean. You won't be disappointed.

 

[Acroyer]

I feel the need to chime in, even though I don't have a P220. I do like my Sig, though. It's a... ready for this? It's an SP2022! Yeah, that's right, polymer frame, baby! In .40 S&W!

If I am lucky and play my cards right, my next Sig will be the P220 10mm SAO.