Three different Model 36's

Smolt Smython

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I'm not trying infer that I think "old is good, new is bad" so please don't respond as such.
Just passing on a recent experience. I'm looking for a Model 36 as a donor gun for a project. I don't like to molest really nice Smith's so my perfect donor has been subject to cosmetic wear and tear that brings the price down but has been shot very little and has no mechanical/functional issues or wear. I stop by the LGS a lot because of high turnover on used guns.
This week there were no 36's on one day and 3 of them the next. Got them all out on the counter and the owner left me to play with them. A 3" 36 No Dash, a 1 7/8" 36 No Dash and a 1 7/8" 36-7. The No Dashes were priced a lot higher than the Dash 7 and looked like a typical blued gun of that age, well worn but not abused, the 3" cosmetics quite a bit nicer than the 1 7/8". Both seemed perfect functionally and had silky smooth and seemingly identical double action trigger pulls (with Snap Caps in the cylinder) and a crisp, light, single action release.
No brainer, leave the rare(er), nicer 3" alone and get the 1 7/8" No Dash, but it was too expensive (both No Dashs had the same price).
So maybe the looked like new, never fired, Dash 7?
It was a lot cheaper. Shop owner said the seller was in a hurry to sell and told him to price it low.
So I picked it up and it had one of the worst double action triggers I've had the displeasure of feeling. Heavy, but more important, glitchy, with numerous peaks and valleys in the pull as tolerances stacked and released and stacked again, over and over. The single action release was vague and the trigger creeped quite a bit before release. With the hammer down and trigger pulled firmly back the cylinder was loose rotationally and not locked up like on the No Dash versions.
The smooth trigger face on the Dash 7 made more sense than the grooved trigger's on the No Dash models. Both the narrow sights on the No Dash's and the wide sights on the Dash 7 (which I had been told were an improvement) were equally bad as being pretty much functionally useless since the front sight on both versions completely filled the rear sight notch leaving no visible light to center the front sight with.
My Model 60 No Dash and my Model 940 sights are not like that, they work well with a correct ratio of front sight width to rear sight notch width so there is some variation going on, typical of firearms of that era.
That's all I have, no opinion, just reporting.
I didn't buy any of them. The No Dash due to high price and the Dash 7 due to poor quality. Could have just been a lemon and another Dash 7 might have been a perfect gem.
 
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36s!

The model 36 did not follow the protocol of the dash number(closely! ? ). A 36-1 is the designation for the 3" heavy barrel. The model 36 did not change model number for a grip configuration change as the mods 30&31. Also it did not change the model number for a barrel length change as the mod 32&33 did.
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The top two guns in the picture are 36-1 guns and the rest are model 36s! The dash numbers started following the engineering changes in the late 1980s. You have many model 36s to pick from in the early guns, just be patient!
jcelect
 
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Love these old Smith's. Unfortunately, I only have three; one Model 36-1 and two Model 36's. One of my Model 36's was made in 1954 based on the serial number. I'm old school and don't believe in "safe Queens". I have fired all three and they shoot great.
 
Interesting review.

I probably would have had a hard time leaving the 3" in the shop.

I have several -7s, and they do not have the trigger problems you identified.

Do you know any of the serial numbers?


One of my Model 36's was made in 1954 based on the serial number.

The first Chiefs Special stamped "MOD. 36" in my database shipped in August 1958. If yours is truly a Model 36 it wasn't "made" before that.
 
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Understand that, as I said: “Could have just been a lemon and another Dash 7 might have been a perfect gem.”
Myself, I actually would not buy that nice 3” since I’m looking for a donor gun for a build and I don’t like molesting really nice or unusual Smiths. There are enough average condition, common Smiths out there for me to pull apart that I like to leave the nice ones/less common ones alone and hope they find a good home like yours.
Thanks for your input!
PS No I don’t record serial numbers of firearms that I casually inspect.
 
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