Time for marshall law

[Rex Goliath]

Yep. His dad was Vern Law, a Cy Young Award winner who pitched for Pittsburgh from about 1950 until the late 60's. If I remember reading correctly, Vern and his wife had five or six kids...all of their first names beginning with the letter V. Really. I'm pretty sure Marshall wasn't part of that clan.

Vernon Law is a neighbor of my in-laws. He is a great guy, congenial and doing well in Provo UT. He was kind enough to autograph a baseball for me back about 2 years ago. True gentleman and fun to talk and visit with

 

[rwsmith]

The town is being baited.....

They are trying to get an excessive response to show how police are 'bad'.

 

[Rex Goliath]

Interesting, if you believe in this sort of thing. Thus, suspend your disbelief for a bit while reading this.
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Born: Saul David Alinsky, January 30, 1909, Chicago, Illinois
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, California

Education: University of Chicago, Ph.D. 1930, University of Chicago Graduate School, criminology, 1930-1932.

Occupation: Community organizer, writer, political activist
Notable works: Reveille for Radicals (1946); *Rules for Radicals* (1971)

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 - June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing.

From that book here are Saul's thoughts on how to create a social state:
*There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.*

*1) Healthcare -* Control healthcare and you control the people

*2) Poverty -* Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

*3) Debt -* Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

*4) Gun Control -* Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

*5) Welfare -* Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

*6) Education -* Take control of what people read and listen to - take control of what children learn in school.

*7) Religion -* Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

*8) Class Warfare -* Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
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Otherwise, I have no opinion. 1992-1993 (my last year on the job) did earn some substantial OT on a few mutual aid assignments in So Cal
"Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society." – Aristotle...apparently he had an opinion

 

[Shootbrownelk]

I've heard of Marshall Dillion, who is Marshall Law?


Jim in Iowa

I think he's Jude's cousin.

 

[DaGOOSExyz]

Marshall Law - Name Marshall comes from old word meaning the person who cared for horses. A very important task. In time came to mean the most important servant or hired person in the house.
Then came to mean the most important person in the town or area. Thus "look out
here comes the Marshall" Sometimes when things get really out of hand
in a town or area the Marshall still has to step in and run things. Now the person may have a different title than Marshall but we know what Marshall Law is.

 

[Marshwheeling]

Marshall Law - Name Marshall comes from old word meaning the person who cared for horses. A very important task. In time came to mean the most important servant or hired person in the house.
Then came to mean the most important person in the town or area. Thus "look out
here comes the Marshall" Sometimes when things get really out of hand
in a town or area the Marshall still has to step in and run things. Now the person may have a different title than Marshall but we know what Marshall Law is.

Nice try.

 

[soFlaNative]

Here are a couple more links, officer.
You should think long an hard.
The people that tell these two stories have a lot of knowledge.
The boys don't need these toys.
But I'm SURE you disagree.
'We're building a domestic army' -Marine Corps colonel speaks out
and THIS is Concord, NH. Tell me they NEED what they are looking to take on...why?

I would suggest you watch that video over and over..... and then over again.

Is Obama building ?citizen army? « ModernSurvivalOnline.com

Two well respected men. Retired Marine, and Retired Army. I think I'll take THEIR word over yours.

The United States of America does not need MILITARIZED Police, with all the toys. For what? To fight WHO?

You say the MRAPs will "deflect mine explosions"
You guys dodging a lot of mines over there where you are?

I'll agree in part that police have been increasingly overreactive at times but as a citizen who counts on them as the pointy end of the stick I'll give them the benefit of the doubt which frankly is more than I would regarding your source material.

I've had beefs with cops, just getting them to show is tough enough. Local PD's have forced many of the veteran officers into an ERIP and Sheriff Office cherry picks others where cities now fill the ranks with inexperience that will not have a chance to gain the wherewithall riding along with a veteran.

Funding is a b***h. Matching funds or grants via the feds means use it or lose it esp. in the next years budget. Constant stream of long guns, body armor, vehicle packages etc. to the dept. to account for available monies.

 

[the ringo kid]

I remember a comic book character in the 80s-90s called Marshall Law, a hyper violent vigilante. I think the premise was that "super heroes" were illegal, and it was the Marshall's job to hunt them down.

I do like Marshall Art too...

What were we just talking about???

Sounds a bit like: The Punisher. Also, Dolph Lundgren Punisher was the better of the Punisher movies ive seen.

 

[the ringo kid]

Chuck Norris is Marshall Law.

This is funny, I was writing from my tablet without a real keyboard which is a pain (or Major Payne). I pondered over wether or not that was the correct spelling and got it wrong anyway.

Two shot, 31 arrested, molotov cocktails. They need a man like Marshall Law now more than ever.

All they need is: Chuck Norris. )

 

[the ringo kid]

Chuck Norris is Marshall Law.

This is funny, I was writing from my tablet without a real keyboard which is a pain (or Major Payne). I pondered over wether or not that was the correct spelling and got it wrong anyway.

Two shot, 31 arrested, molotov cocktails. They need a man like Marshall Law now more than ever.

Dang it--you beat me to mentioning Chuck norris. However, ill also say that Clint Eastwood was Jonah Hex--not that yahoo who did an OK job playing him,.

 

[BigBill]

All the trouble makers are like from other states.

Shoot the looters on sight. There are some looking for free stuff at the expense of others. I feel something bad is going to come from this.

 

[GaryS]

A good number of them are professional leftist agitators. I say that based on credible information from previous operations. In our run up to the DNC in Boston in 2004, we had briefings from Law Enforcement about the various professional agitators. Very well organized, have lawyers observing the protests and police response, video everything going on. A larger proportion of them a "trust fund babies" whose parents are quite wealthy and subsidize their activities.

Those are the ones that either start trouble of give money to other to start trouble.

Once a mob forms, especially if they are angry, it takes next to nothing to get them to become violent and to try to provoke an over reaction by the police.

The store owners are on their own. The police management figures that their losses will be covered by insurance, so they won't risk officer safety to arrest looters.

All the trouble makers are like from other states.

Shoot the looters on sight. There are some looking for free stuff at the expense of others. I feel something bad is going to come from this.

 

[Stevens]

Seems like once the police were given the go ahead to arrest some of them things are starting to calm down some.
Steve W

 

[Doug M.]

There is no need for the UNITED STATES of AMERICA to have the armor listed at the enclosed link. Unless they want to use it against us.

They sure aren't using it on the borders, but are real quick to pull it out to use on main street AMERICA

If you actually think the Police are not and have not become Militarized........... I'm at a loss for words.

All Civilian Army.

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You are entitled to your opinion, and I will defend that right vigorously, but simply not correct. All the material on that page is simple protective and performance enhancing gear. Night vision stuff is militarizing? Unlike most people, cops (and fire fighters, and EMS, etc) work around the clock. Some of us refuse to work days for lots of good reasons. We need to be able to see at night. The vehicles are not "armor" as I understand it (tanks), but protective vehicles. The same criticism applies to all the claims made there.
We have made a lot of steps to improve officer safety against those who would do us harm in the last 100 years. Gear is better. Tactics are better. Practices are better. We as a society expect cops to go to places no reasonable person would otherwise go. I have friends who CHOSE to work the worst areas, because without them there hunting bad guys and bringing the fight to them, the decent people who lived there were toast.
Despite all the silly claims made to the contrary by criminal apologists like Sharpton and Holder, American LE's uses of force are overwhelmingly lawful and appropriate. And trust me, when we catch other cops doing bad stuff, there are no more vigorous critics than us, because we in the system pay for every one of those incidents forever. Further, it is well established the America LE does not use enough force, and does not kill near enough offenders - by a factor of roughly 15 at a minimum. Even DOJ, one of the most anti-police entities in the country (right up there with PERF), has produced a study to that effect: FBI ? Restraint in the Use of Deadly Force.
Feds and search warrants: Most feds are not cops. They are criminal investigators, who do specialized tasks. They tend to not have the skill sets relevant to doing the actual tasks of field LE, and no more business investigating or critiquing than I do teaching and judging gymnastics. The idea proposed in this string, which I see regularly, of taking most agency authority from the specialized agencies and having the FBI do it would be one of the worst things one could do to liberty. Fragmented entities with their own skillsets are much less of a risk to use than one or a few large ones as would result from having the FBI (an entity with a ghastly civil rights records of its own, and a large number of personnel who can't easily be used in court due to a cheating scandal Justice IG: FBI cheated on test of rules - Washington Times) granted such power. Talk about militarized: FBI personnel were actually used in combat in the sandbox for some purposes. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[David LaPell]

Personally I would like to see what Marshal Dillon would do in a time like this, he would have gotten Festus and Newly, deputized a couple others and rode in there and probably rode out ten minutes later leaving the only thing behind a really big chore for the undertaker and something to give the buzzards indigestion. We need that now instead of a pantywaist governor who has thrown the cop to the wolves to save his own political future in the state of Missouri, a sheriff that tells the protesters how its going to be instead of walking with them singing songs and trying to be everyone's friend. I think its high time to roll in with every piece of militarized equipment the media is complaining about and point it at the looters and gang banger wanna be's and inform them that the very first time one of them fires on one of the officers, they will answer ten shots for every one of theirs. While its not very politically correct and not likely to ever happen, it certainly would get their attention. Because if someone out there doesn't come up with a plan, that looting is going to spread once those locusts have eaten and stolen everything within reach.

 

[jack the toad]

Yeah, ole Matt Dillon or Clint "Get Off My Lawn" Eastwood, either one would do.
And before anyone says well that only happens in the movies, there's prolly some left coast liberal movie producer (michael moore type) already writing a script for a movie right now. This would just give them something to draw movie goers.
Heck, and if some real life Dirty Harry type were to take charge in Ferguson right now and clean that mess up, I might even go see the movie.

 

[CDROBERTS]

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Further, it is well established the America LE does not use enough force, and does not kill near enough offenders - by a factor of roughly 15 at a minimum.

Thank you for actually writing that.

You advocate killing more "offenders."

Perfect.

Yes.... American Police do not kill enough people.

Get out there and do your part Doug.

Absolutely insane statement.

 

[ditrina]

And at that point we're done...