To those of you with suppressors

[xxspudxx]

Someone say suppressed 15-22 pics?

 

[BELT_FED]

Great pics..

I also brought up the form 1 option because they to can be done on a trust or individual and can save the person a lot of money, if you have the skills. And the 15-22 is a great integral starter gun since it functions best on HV ammo. A integral barrel can be ported to reduce the bullet velocity without messing with the bolt velocity to much or increasing the over all length of the rifle

Bottom line choose the path you want, pay the tax, and welcome to the disorder.

 

[fotoman12001]

IDK if the barrel can be cut and threaded on the MK series.

Jim Pixley does it. Get info here. He did my stainless MKII, Buck Mark rifle, and TC Contender in the photos I posted earlier. He does great work and I highly recommend him.

 

[BELT_FED]

Yep, & that is why I bought the Buck Mark. I got the Whisper model, that comes threaded but also purchased a Tactical Solutions threaded barrel, which because the serial number isn't on the barrel, was shipped straight to me.

Since the 22Sparrow is so narrow, it should look real nice on the Buck Mark, along with the 15-22.

Speaking of Buck Mark, I did the Heggis trigger spring flip this weekend, and boy did that ever help in reducing trigger pull!

IMO, pistol discussion here is relevant, in that if you are gonna spend all that money on a suppressor & stamp, might as well share it amongst different guns. As Phil mentioned, some suppressors are great for the 15-22 but not so great if you want to also use on a pistol.

I've got one of the camo laminat classic carbon buckmarks with the carbon fiber bull barrel. There is just something cool about a bull barreled rifle that weighs just over 3 lbs... ;-)

 

[roadkill45]

i did not know they made stock threaded barrels already on the MK series, thanx for correcting me on that. I think they should farm out the background checks to some American company that could use the business they would get done a lot faster! Also, why do they have to keep checking my trust??? it has 5 stamps on the appendix A and is the same trust used over and over, they should be used to it.
the trusts should go in one pile for a flunky to go over quickly, realize that it has been approved before, and rubber stamp the stamp, then send to examiner to sign off.
the individuals should be given to the examiner. would save a lot of time and effort on those poor overworked, over paid, individuals!
pic so we don't violate the rules!

with DIY PVC shroud to get rid of the skinny look:

Spike custom 5.56 build with Gemtek Trek, future SBR but right now it is 16" #2 coyote gun:

 

[Jolly]

I didn't read the whole thread to know if anyone discussed it but leading was a problem I encountered using CCI standard velocity. Well really any low vel. CCI's. Remington has subsonics and the leading was greatly reduced using them and in my opinion quieter than CCI's. You'll be amazed about how much lead get deposited on the first few baffels. You can always use the "dip" on stainless parts but in my case since they were Al it wasn't an option.

I have had zero function issues using subsonics either with or without a can.

Jolly.

 

[acropora]

Yes you can, but really if you have the tools and know how to build a better suppressor, why not get the license.

well i will ask the BATF just to be 100% sure as to the legality in the state of Florida.i do have the tools but i never claimed to be able to make a "better suppressor".i have seen the designs of several suppressors and have specs off of them since friends of mine have them.the one i would like to make is based off the sparrow and is a mono-core design using 3 pieces(the core,a nut that locks it all together,and outer can).as for me getting a license,i dont plan on EVER selling one and have no desire or time to make them for resale.i like to make and build things in general and just thought it would be a cool project to make my own(even if its a copy of an exsisting design).its hard to trust ANY info about this stuff since there is conflicting responces in this thread and i like my freedom enough to just ask the BATF and be certain.however i do believe what you are stating about the legality is correct,but would you trust your freedom to answers off a forum when there is conflicting info all over the thread?either way thanks for the clarification.

 

[roadkill45]

I didn't read the whole thread to know if anyone discussed it but leading was a problem I encountered using CCI standard velocity. Well really any low vel. CCI's. Remington has subsonics and the leading was greatly reduced using them and in my opinion quieter than CCI's. You'll be amazed about how much lead get deposited on the first few baffels. You can always use the "dip" on stainless parts but in my case since they were Al it wasn't an option.

I have had zero function issues using subsonics either with or without a can.

Jolly.

they will lead up quick with any rounds aside from copper i'm afraid. cleaning is easy if it is a take down like the Pilot II in my pics. if you have a sealed can, you can send it off and get it "jail broken" Welcome | Stalking Rhino Industries
cost a $225 but when you get it back it looks brand new and has the 2 caps threaded on so you can break it down and clean in the future. I think it is worth it for a sealed can that is not keeping it quiet anymore and weighs 3 times more than when you bought it. i use a Harbor Freight blast box with crushed corn cob, outside with a mask, takes the lead right off.
in the centerfire you do not have to worry about fouling, maybe carbon but that comes out with any basic cleaner.

Huntertown Arms has the best for the money take down .22 can for $199 (plus the stamp cost) very quiet, very easy to take down and knock the baffles out with 3/4" dowel rod and a tap with a hammer.
the Dip is great for some metals, but since most cans are now made from Al or Iconel, i don't trust it to not eat the metal.

 

[Jolly]

I put aluminum foil in the DIP and it ate it overnight. I also tried a sliver of 7068 Al and it tured it black but didn't really eat it but I still would not put a form 1 in it unless its stainless.

 

[roadkill45]

Form 4 for suppressor. DO NOT USE DIP ON AL!! that's the bottom line!

 

[glg20]

Spend the $$$ on a stainless suppressor. They hold up over time and are easy to clean. False economy to spend bottom dollar on a cheap can. It will not pay off and trying to sell it will return nothing.

Rimfire cans are a blast and get used alot. Enjoy.
SWR Spectre on a MKIII 22/45.

 

[roadkill45]

actually to sell it would be more hassle than anything. can't see where i would buy a used can and still have to do all the paperwork to get it legally. unless it was real cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Desert Five-0]

Since you are in AZ as i am, be prepared to wait exactly 6 months. our examiner is Ann Feltner and she is SLOW! there are only 9 examiners and have been broken down into divisions of the country. I have 2 more in line that just went pending about a month ago so i'm looking at September for the new cans (i have quite the stamp collection!)

does the Ruger already have a threaded barrel? if not, you can't just switch barrels on a MK series, you have to buy a whole upper from say Tactical Solutions and it is considered the firearm so it has to go to your FFL. IDK if the barrel can be cut and threaded on the MK series.
the Buckmark on the other hand, barrel can just be replaced.

My 22-45 Lite has a threaded barrel.

 

[roadkill45]

as stated above i did not know that the 'newer' 22-45 came with a threaded barrel, which is great, doesn't cost you for another upper and FFL transaction.
when i got my gov slab side there were no 22-45's so my knowledge was limited with them since i only have MKI's and MKII's.

 

[tppjr]

19+ weeks waiting on form 4!!!!!!!

Anyone else come close to this? Really starting to get irritated.

 

[tppjr]

19+ weeks waiting on form 4!!!!!!!

Anyone else come close to this? Really starting to get irritated.

OOPS!! I meant FORM 3!!

 

[kennyb]

my approval just came in this past friday...my wait was 6.5 months

 

[RedNeck Jim]

19+ weeks waiting on form 4!!!!!!!

Anyone else come close to this? Really starting to get irritated.

OOPS!! I meant FORM 3!!

19 weeks for a dealer to dealer transfer? You haven't even submitted a form 4?

Good Lord, that is slow. That is also one reason why I paid a little more & purchased my suppressor from a dealer that had one in stock. That way there is no form 3 & you directly proceed with the form 4.

 

[roadkill45]

agreed that is totally unacceptable. i'd cancel my order if at all possible and buy online. what's it made of unobtanium???

 

[RedNeck Jim]

agreed that is totally unacceptable. i'd cancel my order if at all possible and buy online. what's it made of unobtanium???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you purchase online, don't you still have to go thru the form 3 process of transferring the suppressor to a local class 3 dealer? Granted, it should not take 19+ weeks, but there still is a delay. Only way I know to get going immediately is to purchase directly from a class 3 dealer that has what you want in inventory. That is what I did.