To you Really Good Shooters -

[ImDrRich]

Having multiple guns (more than two), is your accuracy approximately the same with all of them? (By "Really Good" I mean proficient with the higher calibers such as .357 magnum and .44 Magnum) but not excluding .22LR, .38spl, .44spl and 9mm.

Thanks and regards to all -

Rich

 

[weatherby]

Hi Rich....the answer for me is no.

A lot of factors come into play for me.
Caliber isn't necessarily one of them.

It can be for some but for me it is grips sights and triggers.
Pretty much in that order too.

Some guns I just shoot better.
Doesn't have a thing to so with what they are chambered in.

 

[Fishinfool]

I don't know that I am "really good" but I am a pretty decent shot.

My opinion is there are too many variables to really make a blanket statement R/E accuracy.

I do think the heavy kickers can be harder to shoot accurately do to recoil and muzzle blast, and take more practice and concentration than, say, shooting small groups with a .22 target pistol.

Larry

 

[jbtrucker]

I have my 686-6 and 640-4 on consignment and sold all my .357 ammo. Never was accurate with it but fun making a very loud boom. I'm fairly accurate with .38 spl J frames and K frames to 7 yards , about the same with .22L Model 18 .

 

[OKFC05]

No, it matters a great deal what gun I am shooting, and what kind of (competition) shooting I am doing. I am far better at (Par time ) precision shooting than shooting a 9mm pistol in an IDPA/SSP match.
All my IDPA class plaques were won with 4" K or L frame revolvers in IDPA/SSR, which puts a premium on reloading skills and not needing to make up shots.
By contrast, I never won anything at steel challenge, which puts a premium on raw speed and has virtually no movement or tactics.
Most of us gravitate to the kind of shooting we like and can do reasonably well, which is not always the current fad. And using my .357 8" revolver for hunting is all slow fire precision shooting.

 

[two-bit cowboy]

Hmmm. Interesting question. I'd not thought about it.

Postwar K-22 was the most challenging revolver I own to become proficient. I attribute that to my shooting mainly short barrels in either .38 Special or .357 Magnum. They don't test me as much as that .22 did.

I guess my long answer is that I practice with each one until I'm as competent with one as I am another. It's not the gun that matters, but rather it's my proficiency with each one.

 

[Krogen]

My accuracy varies all over the map. I sure can't say my accuracy with various guns is about the same. Even two guns chambered for the same cartridge vary. For example I shoot Bullseye. At times I do better with one pistol vs. another. I have 4 44 Special revolvers and I usually shoot the 4" Model 24 the best. Adding to the confusion, is that I don't shoot the same gun equally well on different occasions. Some guns just work better in my hands than others. Still, it heavily depends on the stock nut - me.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I point shoot more now instead of shooting for groups but my small group accuracy has been negatively affected by my vision, anyway. I wear trifocal progressive lenses and the spot where a handgun's sights are is just not "right" anymore. Next visit to the eye doc we'll discuss that.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Agree with post #2. Also, I believe that some guns are more accurate than others, and some guns like some ammo better than others.

 

[double-dipper]

Not sure I'm a "really good shooter" but, I am pretty good at wing shooting. Being a poor o'l Kansas farm boy I cut my teeth on shooting pheasants, quail and ducks.

I do shoot my non-magnum handguns better that the make your hand hurt full house 44 magnums.

I do have some rifles that are a lot more accurate than others I own.
I'm sure it has something to do with barrel harmonics, ballistic coefficient, air psi and other stuff I just don't understand.

 

[BIGDOC]

Yes and yes. I try to practice with all the types because they are all different, proficiency.

 

[44wheelman]

There are some guns that just shoot better than others. My 945 & 52 outshoot all but a handful in my collection. My 5 1/2" 41 shoots better than my 7 3/8" 41. I used to have a Python that got smoked by my 15-2 Dan Wesson. My 629DX will outshoot most of my revolvers… I shoot my P229 way more accurately than my 92fs…soooo many variables. Trigger being the biggest, bbl length helps, grips, sights….

 

[Nevada Ed]

For me it depends on the.................
quality of the weapon & ammo
plus the time spent shooting with each weapon to "Bond" with it......
and if the range is from 5-50 yards or 25 to 1,000 yards.

At long ranges winds over 15mph can make or break and average shooters score ......
if he has average equipment and skills.

Feel lucky ?

 

[ZGrand]

I shoot better with revolvers than I do with semi-autos, including the 1911. With the revolvers, I'm more accurate shooting single action. Probably just a lack of practice shooting double action.

 

[moralem]

I am a better shot with my revolvers than I am with semi autos. Try as I might I can't shoot those polymer guns beyond 7 yds.

 

[AJ]

Use to be pretty good. Now I consider myself acceptable. With all my guns the answer is No. With my S&W 52, my Colt Gold Cup and my Walther OSP, I still do pretty accurate work. With my other pistols/revolvers not so well. I also find that the longer I shoot the worse the target is, has to do with eye and muscle strain. Hell, to get old! But the alternative sucks.........

 

[Laketime]

For me I have always made a point in remembering how and where each gun will group then compensate my hold to find center mass.I've never understood why some shooters I see with a fixed sighted gun print a nice group either above or below the bullseye and continuing to hold at 6 o'clock.

 

[USBP SW]

I have been fortunate to be able to shoot most everything well, from little.22 revolvers up to .500 Magnums. However, I also discovered that if I shot something extensively, there was a noticeable improvement. The difference wasn't like night and day but it could be the difference between match winner and 1st place. Most bullseye shooters follow the philosophy that you'll do better with like feeling pistols. I originally thought that I would shoot a model 41 for Rimfire, a model 52 for center fire and a 1911 for .45, in 2700 matches. I discovered that my scores improved when I used a High Standard Victor and the 1911 in both center fire and .45 matches because they felt similar, the same grip angle. I do really enjoy shooting a wide variety of firearms, even though I don't shoot them to the same level of precision, it's just more fun.

 

[LPD256]

If you want precision shooting, most of my guns will shoot better than me.

 

[AJ]

For me I have always made a point in remembering how and where each gun will group then compensate my hold to find center mass.I've never understood why some shooters I see with a fixed sighted gun print a nice group either above or below the bullseye and continuing to hold at 6 o'clock.

Hold all my guns at 6 o'clock. Most have adjustable sights. One or two shots with the others remind me where to put a spotter on the target to hit center mass.

 

[StrawHat]

I was a competitor in PPC for a little more than a decade and manage to get into the Governors' 20. So, I understand what you are asking. I have not shot my 38 S&W Special, Davis Competition revolver in three decades but I have poured a long ton of lead down range with my ACP revolvers.

At 50 yards and further, the Model 25-2 with the 6" (or 6 1/2" barrel) is still my top shooter in ACP. BUT, my Model 22-4s are so close as to be a draw.

And the Model 25-2 is a Target Revolver while the Model 22-4s are fixed sighted.

Have not had the 4 1/4" Model 25-2 long enough to truly get a compilation of targets.

All of the "numbered" models outshoot the older "named" model but whether that is the short action, Target sights, or just the nut doing the shooting is unknown.

Kevin

 

[jimbo728]

I used to be a fair competiter until my hand became parylized.
It hurts to lose that ability.
Jim

 

[lrrifleman]

Rich,

In some respects, I think your question is invalid because of it's wide sweep.

I consider myself to be reasonably proficient with all of my firearms (both handguns and rifles) with the caveat that each is mission specific and should be judged by a yard stick calibrated to the mission each arm is acquired for.

For Bullseye matches (currently called Precision Pistol), my K22, K38, and 1911 deliver 85-90% performance over the 25 yard and 50 yard courses of fire. For PPC, my vintage K38, and my assorted semi-auto pistols are delivering 93+% performance. For the GSSF matches, my chosen Glocks are putting me in the 75 -100 second time zones, depending upon which division I'm shooting. For F class mid-range (600 yards) and long-range (1000 yard) matches, my preferred rifle and cartridge combinations are placing me in the 88-92% average zones, despite my physical challenges.

For bullseye matches, I shoot my revolvers SA. For PPC, I shoot my revolvers DA, but I wouldn't think of using my 3T bullseye K38 for PPC, because of the wide trigger. When I first attempted IHMSA matches about 40 years ago, I shot my N frame SA (I'd love to find a club within 150 miles or so still doing these matches).

The bottom line is that each firearm and each discipline requires a certain degree of practice. Some practice is transferable, some isn't. For me, I find that timed and rapid fire bullseye is providing the most transferable skills for PPC. Bullseye and PPC are providing the best transferable skills for GSSF matches. I am seeing the best transferable skill development for the Adaptive Defensive Shooting Summit events being PPC and GSSF matches (I tend to joke that the ADSS matches are IDPA:GSSF matches: stationary [like GSSF], but fired on an IDPA-style course of fire).

Being disabled, I strive for consistency using a mission appropriate yardstick. My key concerns are trigger control and focusing on the front sight.

 

[Lobster Picnic]

K-frames don't like to miss no matter who is holding them, so I've got that working for me. I also own a J-frame with the same proclivity, the 3" 60-4 with full underlug. My other J-frames require some talent from the shooter I seem to be lacking.

 

[Frailer]

Short answer: No.

Removing a firearm's inherent accuracy from the equation, the shooter must do two things to hit the intended target: point the gun at the correct spot, and press the trigger without moving the gun.

Sight radius and the sights themselves influence the former, and the trigger and the grip configuration affect the latter.

 

[Univibe]

No. Depends on what I do a lot of. Decades ago I competed in Bullseye with .22LR target pistol. I can still do pretty well; hands are steady by at my age the eyes aren't in the same league as they used to be.

With my 686 and 629 I can do myself a bit of credit shooting single action. But I fire double action so little that I wouldn't trust a DA revolver to save my life at more than cross-the-room distances. If I worked at it, I know I could become a lot better. By contrast, with a G17 or G19 I have considerable confidence. And that's because I have a lot more trigger time on semis in general and lately, Glocks.

It's all what you're used to doing.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

The trigger makes the most difference for me, I think.
I can probably shoot this one the best.
An inherently accurate gun , 22LR so no recoil.
And it was 'tuned' when the target Hammer Trigger were added.
I think Elmer said a Revolver should have a 3 Pound Trigger Pull like breaking Glass.
This one comes close.

 

[heeter3]

I only own .38 special and .357 magnum revolvers and as would be expected my accuracy goes up substantially when moving from 2 in to 3 in to 4 in and ultimately 6 in bbls.

 

[StrawHat]

…
My key concerns are trigger control and focusing on the front sight…

This is the whole crux of disciplined Target shooting. Without this you are just making noise and wasting components.

Kevin

 

[stansdds]

No, I am not equally accurate across a variety of firearms, which is why I do not have a carry rotation. For carry, it is one of two handguns, a S&W Model 6946 for most uses and a Model 640 when I need something more compact.