I've had a used 629-6 for a couple months now, nice gun, 6" stainless, no problems other than lousy weather to properly have fun with it while getting it sighted in better, except one thing: the rubber stocks tame the recoil just fine and it fits my hand real nice, but why on God's green Earth did they use a T-10 Torx-head screw to hold them in place? Other than those tamper proof bolt & screw heads that you see usually in elevators & restrooms, the Torx head is one of the rarest set of drivers that many people have. Often on cars the lenses on the lights have them, too, so I suppose they are becoming more popular in the standard do-it-yer own selfers' tool sets. They've had flat-head screws on guns for years so why change? I've accumulated a ton of hand tools of all types over the years of Commercial/Industrial RHVAC service, but that's beside the point! It just doesn't make sense to me; perhaps I'm missing something?
Torx head screw?!
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Agree 100%. Unfortunately you have to just bite the bullet if you want to work on anything any more. I see them with increasing frequency. I have always assumed it was due to automated assembly lines, but I don't know.
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Torx have been common for years. A vast improvement over hex bits or flat/phillips heads in my opinion. What has kept you from having a set of drivers or bits on the rack with the other drivers? Do you still use a rotary dial telephone? I haver lots of screwdrivers, but need special properly fitted heads when I work on a S&W. I also have a set of bits for computer stuff, again specialized. Now off my soapbox, but you did ask....bob
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The fun is just beginning. There are 5 point Torx, 8 point, tamper proof torx, 3 point Phillips, JIS, Reed Prince plus many many more.
Everybody has a "better" idea.
Everybody has a "better" idea.
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Please excuse my ignorance. But is it an allen head screw or an actual torx screw. I actually prefer a nice round headed Alen head to anything I just think they look better. And it's easy to use ball driver on them so you don't have to go straight in.
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I'm trying to remember, my S&W E Type 1911 had either allen or torx grip screws. Since I sold it last year can't go look. Either one wasn't a problem, I had whatever it was in my tool kit to use.
IMHO torx heads are far superior to all the other head types. Way more contact area, If a screw is rust in place the type of head isn't as much problem as the rust. that is why they make KROIL. A rusted out messed slot head isn't any better than a rusted out torx. Left hand drill bits. Don't get a set of screw drivers get a set of bits and a good handle. i even have the large ones that use a 3/8 drive. Torx heads are like metric. you can complain and be upset forever or get the tools and get on with life.
Was a supervisor in a hand tool shop for almost 30 years. We made all of them. Phillips,reed&prince, torx,flat tips clutch heads in both bits and those with handles. I will take the torx over the rest of them. The better deck screws are all torx now.
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Yeah, I have most all of them, including the Torx, AND those stupid triangle bits! Snake-head bits, too. On a related subject, I had a 2000 Yukon. Loaded to the max, XL, SLT package. I had to change the battery in it, and honest to Pete, I had to use SAE AND Metric sockets to do that simple job. I understand, especially on a nicer gun, how standard screws can get jiggered up, but this gun is nothing special as far as looks. (Unless you happen to be looking down the business end of it and you are an uninvited guest!) Then there's that threaded grommet that's glued to the rubber for the screw...
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double-dipper
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Jeff, If you don't have a set of Torx-head drivers in your gun room, well its time to get a set. I have a few sets of Torx-head drivers. Keep one set out in the garage tool chest (tamper proof) a set in the gun room and a set in my tool bag that stayes in the truck.
I've been carrying a small magnifying glass for some 20-30 years just for the purpose of verifying the screw head type before my head explodes in frustration!
And yes I have at least 3 sets for different locations around here! I also have Allen head bits in SAE and Metric from very small to industrial size!!
Smiles,
And yes I have at least 3 sets for different locations around here! I also have Allen head bits in SAE and Metric from very small to industrial size!!
Smiles,
Obviously, you haven't mounted a scope in awhile. I can't speak to the extreme high end scope[Nightforce] but Leupold , Burris and I
believe Vortex rings are all Torx. Make sure the wrench is seated properly and they beat the hell out of the other styles.
believe Vortex rings are all Torx. Make sure the wrench is seated properly and they beat the hell out of the other styles.
smoothshooter
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I don't like any of the newer screw heads.
If a screw needs to be tightened, or the gun partially disassembled at the range or in the field, someone somewhere in the group wil have something to get a slotted screw out. Sometimes on a Swiss Army knife.
Rarely will anyone have Allen wrenches or any type of torx driver.
If I had a gun that came with anything except slitted screws i would replace them at once.
Note: Ace Hardware carries a pretty good assortment of specialty screws specially made for guns and scope mounts. The one by where I live has them in a separate assortment box.
If a screw needs to be tightened, or the gun partially disassembled at the range or in the field, someone somewhere in the group wil have something to get a slotted screw out. Sometimes on a Swiss Army knife.
Rarely will anyone have Allen wrenches or any type of torx driver.
If I had a gun that came with anything except slitted screws i would replace them at once.
Note: Ace Hardware carries a pretty good assortment of specialty screws specially made for guns and scope mounts. The one by where I live has them in a separate assortment box.
LittleCooner
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Put me down for "pro Torx" I love the idea also. Finally an improvement that is head and shoulders above the existing norm.
Yes, pro-torx....but when I still worked in the trucking industry, we had to adapt quickly, or loose pay!
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I do prefer the Torx to Allens, it just doesn't seem necessary on a set of rubber handles; especially with the other end just glued into the nylon(?) frame of the opposite handle. I've seen some other stocks (if I ever want to change out the original ones) that may spruce up the gun a little, and the date of manufacture on the tag says July '16, so it didn't surprise me too much about that threaded grommet falling out the first time I took them off. The strain screw needed tightened back in, maybe previous owner loosened it up some so I'll blame him for maybe over-tightening the handles! It's all good, gun shoots and everything now. Had light primer strikes in double action. That's the extent of my smithing abilities pretty much! I'm gonna go adjust the antenna wire on my crystal set and see if I can get Paul Harvey on while I check my still. The rev'nuers was hangin' 'round down at the general store askin' questions!
Peace!!
Peace!!
