Trends You Simply Can't Stand...Feel Free To Vent Here

[65-2x2]

My second biggest complaint is when people use y'all. Y'all isn't a word. Stop it.

* This thread was meant to be somewhat whimsical. Don't take it seriously.

I beg to difffer. In the S.E. part of the country is is accepted as standard English. The one that I find fault with is, "youse guys."

 

[65-2x2]

There is one other firearm I just really can't stand looking at; a Chiappa Rhino revolver. They are uglier than my M1895 Nagant.

Indeed they are in the same catagory as the Dryese 1907.

 

[roundels]

My complaint is that companies no longer install iron sights on most of the rifles they sell. Yes, most folks may want to install an optical sight of some kind. I don't care, I may be an old geezer, but when I buy a rifle, I want it to arrive with at least a rudimentary set of sights. I notice prices don't seem to have dropped any to pass the savings the company is getting on labor and materials for sights on to the customer. I guess next time I buy a car, I'll have to bring my own steering wheel.

With some cars you already have to buy your own spare. Ask the dealer about that and they say you have an inflater kit. And?

 

[65-2x2]

Hollywood is a special kind of stupid when it comes to firearms. We've all heard the standard complaints, but here's a gripe you don't hear too often: the term "shell casings" as in "We found shell casings at the crime scene." I don't know what they call such things in the big cities, but out here in the world we call them spent brass.

If that bothers you, never, ever watch British crime dramas. They will show a scene with a Webley and then talk about it using the rare 9MM caliber. There are some great crime dramas on Brit Box, but the writers, directors and producers know nothing about firearms.

 

[65-2x2]

I'm not as amused with it. I hate the use of the word "y'all". I don't care where you are from or who you are, it's my opinion that it's use is lazy and uneducated.

My second gripe is those that are chasing what I call "trigger nirvana", where no pistol that they pick up has the perfect trigger, ever.

Third (and I'll stop), are those that as soon as they get a new gun, they start changing things and adding "bling" to them to the point where the gun no longer functions. Then they ask why their gun doesn't work. Simply put, people that think that they are smarter than the engineers that designed them.

So, what part of the North are you from?

 

[65-2x2]

What irritates me is when you go to a gun counter, and espically one at a mass marketer, and there is a 20 someithing kid behind the counter, (who's previous job was, "Do you want fries with that?") trying to tell a 70 year old veteran shooter some kind of bologna about a firearm or ammunition. I had one of the, at a Bass Pro, tell me, with a very smug attitude, that .38 Smith and Wesson ammo did not exist at that I was talking about .38 spl. I could have taken him over my knee and worn his butt out.

 

[VaTom]

Totally off the subject of firearms but sitting on the porch of a vacation house along a golf course reminded me of a pet peeve. Have been playing golf for years. I am 71. Call me an old crudmugin but playing music from your golf cart while playing is over the top. Seems to be the younger crowd with blue tooth speakers and cell phone with music library. I leave my cell in the car while on the course. If you want to listen while playing wear ear buds. Don't interfere with my and others enjoyment with your tunes.

 

[65-2x2]

Another, non gun, whizzer is, while sitting in a cafe trying to enjoy a meal, some butthead is on his cell phone, talking loud enough for everyone in the place to follow the coversation, to show us how important he is. I use the term "He" because it is always a man.

 

[H Richard]

I'm glad I don't participate with any on line forums other than this one. Facebook I have anything to do with, so whatever they speak about I an unaware, (and gald of it).

 

[65-2x2]

Gun writers that have never discussed a new firearm that was not the greatest thing since sliced bread. (no matter what a dog it is)

 

[65-2x2]

That's actually not a trend, but something made famous by John Wayne many, many decades ago.

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Was John Wayne the problem originally or was it Chuck Conners?

 

[65-2x2]

My second biggest complaint is when people use y'all. Y'all isn't a word. Stop it.

* This thread was meant to be somewhat whimsical. Don't take it seriously.

Well, Bless your heart. It really is a word. Y'all fills a gap in American English; it is the only second-person plural word in common use. About 85% of the people in the South use the term. That includes a vast number of Southerners who are transplants from the North. Try using it, is as gentle on your tongue as Tupelo honey.

 

[.38SuperMan]

When I buy a new to me firearm that I'm not familiar with the mechanics, I like to research the takedown and reassembly of that gun. If I'm going to strip it and clean it I want to make certain all the parts go in right.

I'll often look for a YouTube video from a knowledgeable person. Quite often the video starts out good but over the course of the video the person moves the gun to where it's just out of frame so you only see the butt of the gun or their wrist. What's so frustrating is they're too lazy to reshoot that segment and edit it in.

Another thing about YouTube, I put on gun videos while I ride my exercise bike. I don't necessarily do it to learn but more to pass the time. Recently it seems as many of these content creators are trying to see who can act the dumbest, which is the biggest retard. They're trying to be cute and funny but the way they act is so stupid I can't watch it.

Another YouTube gripe, content creators that intentionally destroy a nice gun. One in particular was a guy who wanted to see how many rapid fire rounds he could put through his AK47 before it ceased up or burst into flames. It burst into flames before it ceased up. He did a similar one with a polymer pistol. That's sick!

It's getting harder and harder to find good content so I'm probably going to watch more aviation videos.

 

[ladder13]

 

[Model29-26.5]

I like the old stuff. Pre 1982.
I'm not actually much of a "gun guy"'in general. I don't care for AR's, if I never saw an Uzi or an AK-47, I would never care. There is an aesthetic to the old S&W that just appeals to me. The simplicity of the revolver mechanism, the high polish blue. As much nostalgia as the appreciation for the craftsmanship.
I don't care for anything new at all..
The newest I see myself getting will be a 586 and 686 for the collection.
Oh… a Chiappa Mare's Leg. Terminator gun. I don't think I need to splash out on a Real Winchester.
Couple of Cimarron SAA on the horizon.
Still, they are old designs.
I'll probably get a 22 mag rifle of some sort.., but that is it for me.
I am not into Gun "culture".
I just happen to love old S&W and I'm thoroughly enjoying the educational rabbit hole about manufacture, caliber etc.

 

[Rustywrench]

"Clips". People call a Magazine a clip ... I understand that My Garand uses a clip, my 625 uses a moon clip. Everything else I own uses a magazine... I like it most when it is a " High Capacity Magazine Clip". And there is also the 9 mil... mil what? oh, 9 Millimeter. I sometimes ask, " 9 millimeter? , is it 9mm KURZ, Makarov, Luger, or Largo?" followed by blank stare.

 

[djohns6]

"Clips". People call a Magazine a clip ... I understand that My Garand uses a clip, my 625 uses a moon clip. Everything else I own uses a magazine... I like it most when it is a " High Capacity Magazine Clip". And there is also the 9 mil... mil what? oh, 9 Millimeter. I sometimes ask, " 9 millimeter? , is it 9mm KURZ, Makarov, Luger, or Largo?" followed by blank stare.

I don't feel the need to prove a point . " Clip " , who cares ? I know what they mean . Same with "
9 mil " . I try to use the correct terminology and other folks can do whatever they want .

 

[Rustyt1953]

"Clips". People call a Magazine a clip ... I understand that My Garand uses a clip, my 625 uses a moon clip. Everything else I own uses a magazine... I like it most when it is a " High Capacity Magazine Clip". And there is also the 9 mil... mil what? oh, 9 Millimeter. I sometimes ask, " 9 millimeter? , is it 9mm KURZ, Makarov, Luger, or Largo?" followed by blank stare.

My dad carried a Garand with the Third Herd in the ETO.

To his dying day he referred to all magazines as clips.

I knew what he meant and he certainly earned the right to use the term.

 

[Fiddler1537]

I'm not as amused with it. I hate the use of the word "y'all". I don't care where you are from or who you are, it's my opinion that it's use is lazy and uneducated.

My second gripe is those that are chasing what I call "trigger nirvana", where no pistol that they pick up has the perfect trigger, ever.

Third (and I'll stop), are those that as soon as they get a new gun, they start changing things and adding "bling" to them to the point where the gun no longer functions. Then they ask why their gun doesn't work. Simply put, people that think that they are smarter than the engineers that designed them.

All y'all seem seem pretty sensitive about this.

 

[Fiddler1537]

Not from Texas......Like Lyle Lovett's "That's Right"... you're not from Texas.. He had a couple of concerts here about two years ago. Delbert used to come to Cotati pretty frequently..them Texas boys like Sonoma County, we got hills, lots of hills and it ain't hot. My 2nd ex wife and I are both from here. I've watched Calif turn from the tip of the arrow into a third world dumpster fire. Don't let those people wreck Texas like they did Oregon and WA. We are already too far gone to save..

Back in the '70s we we had bumper stickers that said don't californicate Colorado. That ship has sailed.

 

[djohns6]

All y'all seem seem pretty sensitive about this.

Well , some folks felt the need to get all haughty about it .

 

[Taj]

I loathe elaborate (and unnecessary) mill cuts on pistol slides to make them look "tacti-cool." It just seems like a good way for dirt to get in. For me, clean and simple is best.

Ditto for weird and elaborate barrels with strange twisty patterns cut into them. Especially those finished in bizarre colors.

To each their own, of course.

Roger that!! I call those lint collectors. Do enough "immediate action" drills with one of those and you will end up needing a bandaid---- and I hate spiral fluted barrels.

 

[Juan Million]

Everything is a "BAD BOY". How much is that bad boy, let's put that bad boy on the grill, fire up that bad boy, on and on.

 

[djohns6]

Everything is a "BAD BOY". How much is that bad boy, let's put that bad boy on the grill, fire up that bad boy, on and on.

My ZTR mower is Bad Boy . https://www.badboycountry.com/mowers

 

[bph9]

9x19 Parabellum is the bestest thing ever and therefore all other cartridges are "a solution in search of a problem" so don't bother trying to innovate or offer anything new/interesting, just chamber everything under the sun in 9mm.

Honestly, I'm waiting for someone to show of a Lever Action Rifle chambered in 9mm Parabellum because apparently no other cartridge needs to exist anymore. It's so incredibly dull, but the market has become so stagnant that even when ammo companies attempt to introduce a new pistol cartridge, how do they market it? ".30 Super Carry! It's like 9mm, only smaller so you can fit like 2 more in a magazine! Huh? Huh? That's compelling, isn't it?"

It's enough to make me want to buy a 5.7x28 Pistol just to support something other than 9mm. It's like, okay, it's a good defensive round, but variety is the spice of life and the market has gotten remarkably dull. I wish that .357 SIG would get a push, as I think it has untapped marketing potential, and I've seen an increasing number of GunTubers pushing it over the past couple of years, so I think it's due for a revival.

One could use as a parallel the .222 Rem. Mag, a vastly superior cartridge to the .223 Rem but with cheap ammo and once fired brass free just for picking them off the ground the .222 Mag was doomed.

With the cheap ammo and tons of once fired brass the 9mm is not going to get any less popular very soon and I saw it go from just an oddball military surplus cartridge that was used with corrosive surplus ammo in the 50's to the superstar it is today, especially after Law Enforcement went over to the high cap 9mm craze that made the .38 special look like an extinct dinosaur even though the .38 special is actually the more powerful cartridge.

So it begs the question how was the .38 Colt (Father of the 38 Special) such a dismal failure during the Philippine fight for independence from the U.S. in 1899? In fact it was not any more a failure in the field than the .45 Long Colt or .45 acp was because the Troops complained about all 3 calibers. The .38 Colt failed only in the propaganda of the bull crapping Gun Writers of the day and accepted as fact today and still repeated (just last month) by self-anointed gun writers.

Both Col Thompson tests (which he hid from the Ordnance Board and from Jan Libourel who researched "real" U.S. Army records proved that smaller cartridges like the 9x19, 38 Colt, and .30 Luger killed 1,200 Steers ever bit as well as the big bore revolver cartridges. When Co. Thompson did not prove his big bore theory he then in a blind panic cheated in the tests and ran out and bought expanding bullets for the big bore cartridges (which he said did expand) but again they still killed no better, a fact he hid from the Ordnance Board who never bothered to do their own testing.

Moral of the story, most gun writers are as reliable and knowledgeable and honest as most used car salesmen and we all know a used car salesman would never lie to you don't we!!!

As far as the 38 Sig, admittedly it is more powerful (but holds less rounds in the magazine and recoils more and has more muzzle blast) but brass and ammo are way more expensive and it has a very short neck making it a pain to handload for and even factory ammo does not grip the bullet as well as the 9mm does nor does the .38 Sig line up the bullet in the chamber as well as the 9mm either. Now admittedly most people are not skilled enough shooters nor are most combat handguns built with the accuracy of say a match grade 1911 so the difference in accuracy goes unnoticed by Jethro Bodine when he is blasting tin cans on the Lower Forty Acres while he is knee deep in brass and still shooting fast. Occasionally he even hits a tin can.

In conclusion there have been many ballistically superior cartridges that just never made it and for a variety of reasons and Jethro is none the wiser nor does he wish to be either. To Jethro if the Service uses it or Law Enforcement use the cartridge therefore it must be the best to use, it never occurs to Jethro to do any research or testing himself. If Jethro did, he would have found the .32 acp superior to the .380 and the 9x19 superior to the .45 acp, and the .38 special superior to the 9mm but those are more stories for another day and time and history has validated it all it's just that Jethro flunked ballistics and history classes.

 

[Mike LaNier]

My 'whine' today? Politicians! Primarily anti-firearms politicians who don't know diddly!

Here in the Soviet Socialist State of Oregon our politicians have worked overtime to destroy our 2nd Amendment rights, banning magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, banning ARs, demanding 'permits' just to go buy a gun, banning concealed carry, etc. All these anti-gun laws are not only ill-advised but in most cases, unenforceable. I remember visiting Massachusetts years ago; I stopped for gas, and the filling station employee had a pistol tucked into his belt. I commented on that, and he said, "Yeah, it's illegal. But everybody has one." I suspect we'll all be scofflaws after these despicable vermin ban all firearms for 'the greater good'.

 

[bph9]

The general ebb and flow of what's popular would be mine. I would love to see a more well rounded or wide market.

More dao options, smaller velo dog/bicycle/iframe revolvers in 32, and more novel designs as well. There are too many Glock clones and general illusion of having choices.

I wish shooting dogs with the .32 velo dog cartridge was still legal. If it was I could start riding my bike for exercise again.

 

[bph9]

Slapping so many doo dads on carry pistols they're no longer easy to conceal.

You hit the nail on the head. I serious think most of these modern frankenmonster monstrosities never end up being carried rather they are "show off" guns at the range so you can tell people "Look at me I have got "the latest and greatest" even though none of it makes any sense.

 

[bph9]

Pew is what we used to say when something stunk….

Talking about smells. I was reminded of something from those halcyon days of the past when I was hunting pheasants and a fellow that was with me discussed the "aroma" of burnt gunpowder long ago compared to the newer made gunpowder that has lost that "sent". I had not thought about this in decades so I dug out some old 1950's paper shotshells and shot a few to see if it was just my imagination, it was not, they did have "that aroma" and it brought back memories of many friends that have "left the range or hunting fields forever".

 

[rockquarry]

One could use as a parallel the .222 Rem. Mag, a vastly superior cartridge to the .223 Rem but with cheap ammo and once fired brass free just for picking them off the ground the .222 Mag was doomed.

With the cheap ammo and tons of once fired brass the 9mm is not going to get any less popular very soon and I saw it go from just an oddball military surplus cartridge that was used with corrosive surplus ammo in the 50's to the superstar it is today, especially after Law Enforcement went over to the high cap 9mm craze that made the .38 special look like an extinct dinosaur even though the .38 special is actually the more powerful cartridge.

So it begs the question how was the .38 Colt (Father of the 38 Special) such a dismal failure during the Philippine fight for independence from the U.S. in 1899? In fact it was not any more a failure in the field than the .45 Long Colt or .45 acp was because the Troops complained about all 3 calibers. The .38 Colt failed only in the propaganda of the bull crapping Gun Writers of the day and accepted as fact today and still repeated (just last month) by self-anointed gun writers.

Both Col Thompson tests (which he hid from the Ordnance Board and from Jan Libourel who researched "real" U.S. Army records proved that smaller cartridges like the 9x19, 38 Colt, and .30 Luger killed 1,200 Steers ever bit as well as the big bore revolver cartridges. When Co. Thompson did not prove his big bore theory he then in a blind panic cheated in the tests and ran out and bought expanding bullets for the big bore cartridges (which he said did expand) but again they still killed no better, a fact he hid from the Ordnance Board who never bothered to do their own testing.

Moral of the story, most gun writers are as reliable and knowledgeable and honest as most used car salesmen and we all know a used car salesman would never lie to you don't we!!!

As far as the 38 Sig, admittedly it is more powerful (but holds less rounds in the magazine and recoils more and has more muzzle blast) but brass and ammo are way more expensive and it has a very short neck making it a pain to handload for and even factory ammo does not grip the bullet as well as the 9mm does nor does the .38 Sig line up the bullet in the chamber as well as the 9mm either. Now admittedly most people are not skilled enough shooters nor are most combat handguns built with the accuracy of say a match grade 1911 so the difference in accuracy goes unnoticed by Jethro Bodine when he is blasting tin cans on the Lower Forty Acres while he is knee deep in brass and still shooting fast. Occasionally he even hits a tin can.

In conclusion there have been many ballistically superior cartridges that just never made it and for a variety of reasons and Jethro is none the wiser nor does he wish to be either. To Jethro if the Service uses it or Law Enforcement use the cartridge therefore it must be the best to use, it never occurs to Jethro to do any research or testing himself. If Jethro did, he would have found the .32 acp superior to the .380 and the 9x19 superior to the .45 acp, and the .38 special superior to the 9mm but those are more stories for another day and time and history has validated it all it's just that Jethro flunked ballistics and history classes.

These arguments will never end.

Few realize that probably more bad guys (and some good ones, too) met their demise after being shot with the standard 158 grain round nose lead .38 Special factory load than all the alleged ballistically superior ammunition that has supplanted it in recent decades. The 158 RN was plentiful, cheap, and was one of the few .38 Special ammos available for many, many years. Practically all law enforcement agencies and many civilians used it long before anyone heard of +P and expensive pedigreed (commonly called "boutique") ammunition.

Ammo is no better than the shooter, but amateur gunfighting aspirants, especially the one's lacking shooting skills, would never believe such a sound premise.