Picked it up from the LGS. Cheap cardboard box. Pulled out the gun. I was surprisingly good looking and felt very substantial, not a cheap piece of junk. Looked it over. The design is excellent, everything is well placed, easy to operate and get to. It's made of metal in the right places and plastic is in the right places. The barrel is threaded with a protective cap if you want to put on 'accessories'.
Only one 'complaint'. The buffer sits right on top of the the end of the stock. You can roll your head forward to see through the sights, but the buffer sticks up and knocks your earmuff up. Big deal.
Folds and fits in my range bag. The charging handle (Tommy gun thing under the tube stock) could be a little bigger because it's blow back action, therefore hard to pull back, but I think you can get a fatter cover that would make it easier. Not a prob to me but my wife had a hard time cocking it.
The sight is like an AR-15, pretty neat. I need to raise mine a couple of clicks because it shot a couple of inches low.
It functioned great with bought target ammo. (next comes my home cooked ammo) Didn't have ONE hitch or failure. I got the Glock 33 round mag for it and it worked just fine.
It breaks down fairly easy. Push out the big pin that holds the butt plate on (it's adjustable to three positions) take out the buffer and the spring comes out and the bolt in two parts. Clean it, oil it put it back together. The stock pin is a pain to get lined up with the holes but practice should help this.
Warning: Make sure the gun is fully cocked before disassembling. If not, the hammer will prevent putting it back together and you need to go to the video to show how to fix it with a dowel or screwdriver. I was aware of this, but it was half cocked and still wouldn't go back together. I contacted Keltec and they told me to make sure the hammer was pushed back all the way. That straightened everything out.
Additionally, the gun folding back on itself makes the barrel separate from the receiver that makes both very accessible for cleaning/inspecting.
It's got Picatinny rail on the top and M lock on the bottom. It even has rails on the bottom of the butt for I don't know what. (hip flask, yo-yo??). One accessory that I will be buying is the fore end angle grip. It fits on the bottom nicely and doesn't interfere with folding and is smaller than the main grip. It feels fine shooting without it, but I think it would make it even easier to grab and hold.
Bottom line. I'm REALLY glad I got this. I've always wanted a carbine because they are gangs of fun to shoot. Price wasn't really a big consideration but I think this is a much better gun than the Hi Point which feels bulky to me. I'm really blown away how clever and well done the design and manufacture are. I think there are a lot of improvements over the first generation sub2000.
I wanted a .30 carbine, but they are twice as expensive and my son doesn't like those 'old looking guns' with the wood stocks and stuff.
Maybe later. In the meantime, I'm very happy.
Only one 'complaint'. The buffer sits right on top of the the end of the stock. You can roll your head forward to see through the sights, but the buffer sticks up and knocks your earmuff up. Big deal.
Folds and fits in my range bag. The charging handle (Tommy gun thing under the tube stock) could be a little bigger because it's blow back action, therefore hard to pull back, but I think you can get a fatter cover that would make it easier. Not a prob to me but my wife had a hard time cocking it.
The sight is like an AR-15, pretty neat. I need to raise mine a couple of clicks because it shot a couple of inches low.
It functioned great with bought target ammo. (next comes my home cooked ammo) Didn't have ONE hitch or failure. I got the Glock 33 round mag for it and it worked just fine.
It breaks down fairly easy. Push out the big pin that holds the butt plate on (it's adjustable to three positions) take out the buffer and the spring comes out and the bolt in two parts. Clean it, oil it put it back together. The stock pin is a pain to get lined up with the holes but practice should help this.
Warning: Make sure the gun is fully cocked before disassembling. If not, the hammer will prevent putting it back together and you need to go to the video to show how to fix it with a dowel or screwdriver. I was aware of this, but it was half cocked and still wouldn't go back together. I contacted Keltec and they told me to make sure the hammer was pushed back all the way. That straightened everything out.
Additionally, the gun folding back on itself makes the barrel separate from the receiver that makes both very accessible for cleaning/inspecting.
It's got Picatinny rail on the top and M lock on the bottom. It even has rails on the bottom of the butt for I don't know what. (hip flask, yo-yo??). One accessory that I will be buying is the fore end angle grip. It fits on the bottom nicely and doesn't interfere with folding and is smaller than the main grip. It feels fine shooting without it, but I think it would make it even easier to grab and hold.
Bottom line. I'm REALLY glad I got this. I've always wanted a carbine because they are gangs of fun to shoot. Price wasn't really a big consideration but I think this is a much better gun than the Hi Point which feels bulky to me. I'm really blown away how clever and well done the design and manufacture are. I think there are a lot of improvements over the first generation sub2000.
I wanted a .30 carbine, but they are twice as expensive and my son doesn't like those 'old looking guns' with the wood stocks and stuff.
Maybe later. In the meantime, I'm very happy.
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