Trigger on m&ps

[Smith&Winchester]

Interesting thread....

My introduction to handgun shooting was through competition. USPSA IPSC style competition. It may not be for everyone, it may not be "real" , it may have a lot of faults...but it sure teaches (and enforces) SAFE GUN HANDLING.
I found after shooting USPSA events ( I never thought I would do anything out in front of people ) that I liked shooting in competition, and have since tried my hand at lots of different styles of shooting events. Rifles, shotgun, and other multi-gun and hand gun events. At each and every other style of event (except IDPA) I've had muzzles pointed at me, seen people with their fingers on the triggers while their guns were pointed straight up in the air, seen people turn around into the "crowd" with loaded guns....pretty much anything and everything. My double action revolvers have about 6 pound triggers. My single action pistols have 2 pound triggers, my M&P's are just over 3 pounds.
I understand that stressfull situations and carry bring other issues to the table, but I find it hard to wish for extra gadgets on the guns and extra heavy trigger pulls to "solve potential problems." When you mean to shoot.....put your finger on the trigger...and SHOOT.
I guess all the above was really just to say...learn your gun, KNOW your gun, and then you'll be ok...in just about any situation. YOU are in control, don't depend on someTHING or someONE else to be in control, you may not like the results.

 

[Microtig]

Thank you Smith&Win. After two pages of comments, one finally makes sense. In particular, your observation about relying on something to make up for ones inabilities or insecurities.
However there is one aspect to some of the previous comments that you seem to be overlooking. Giving credit to those who realize they would be prone to a mishap for whatever reason (ie unfamiliar with equipment, lack of practice, physical or emotional shortcomings), let me use an analogy.
Firearms (handguns in particular) are SERIOUS devices. They should demand respect and prudence, yet there is no competency testing required to own and operate one, and that for damn sure IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Therefor let us regulate ourselves to common sense.
If you owned an Indy car you could drive to the track (goes very fast- requires skill at top speeds) , you would be very careful (ie. concealed carry - in home defense). When (and if) you took it to the track (more controlled conditions - ie. range) you could get a little more bold. If you would actually race it (ie.competition), you would learn just how to maximize it's performance with your abilities under certain levels of stress. Now, let's pretend you might need to elude murderous thugs who will be chasing you in their own high performance car, through crowded city streets (maximum stress).
Let's see, we've only been to the track for practice a couple of times and never really raced. So to avoid the possibility of running into innocent bystanders or colliding during a chase, should we reduce the performance of our Indy car to a level that we can handle? Obviously not. We would want maximum perfomance. But if we have no means of improving our driving ability, that high performance go-fast Indy car is safer in the garage.
Get out and drive (practice) safely.

 

[MattB]

Originally posted by Microtig:
If you owned an Indy car you could drive to the track (goes very fast- requires skill at top speeds) , you would be very careful (ie. concealed carry - in home defense). When (and if) you took it to the track (more controlled conditions - ie. range) you could get a little more bold. If you would actually race it (ie.competition), you would learn just how to maximize it's performance with your abilities under certain levels of stress. Now, let's pretend you might need to elude murderous thugs who will be chasing you in their own high performance car, through crowded city streets (maximum stress).
Let's see, we've only been to the track for practice a couple of times and never really raced. So to avoid the possibility of running into innocent bystanders or colliding during a chase, should we reduce the performance of our Indy car to a level that we can handle? Obviously not. We would want maximum perfomance. But if we have no means of improving our driving ability, that high performance go-fast Indy car is safer in the garage.
Get out and drive (practice) safely.

The problem with that analogy is the assumption that a heavy trigger represents a reduction in performance, which isn't necessarily true. I learned to shoot with MA-spec handguns, so a 10lbs. trigger is what I'm used to. I've tried both M&P triggers and I shoot more accurately with the heavy trigger for whatever reason. I don't think it makes the gun safer, it's just what I prefer.

 

[Will B]

Originally posted by ted1trading:
What I would like to see is a hammer fired M&P, DA/SA with a decocker. (As in the FNP9/40/45)

I agree I have a M&P 45 and have on order a compact 9mm. I also own a FNP40 and a hammer with a decocker would make the M&P perfect.