Troubles with Safariland Speedloader

ndtish

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I've got a model 60 and Safariland speedloaders. Everytime I try to use the speedloader, it gets caught up on my grips, and two of the rounds have to be manually loaded. It's almost like the speedloader is too big for my grips. Do I just have to wear a space into my grips in order for all rounds to completely go in?

ndtish
 
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Not having a picture of your grips or the model of the speedloader, it's hard to be specific.
In general, yes, there needs to be a "speedloader cut" in the grip that matches the speedloader. Some grips come that way.
 
I've got a model 60 and Safariland speedloaders. Everytime I try to use the speedloader, it gets caught up on my grips, and two of the rounds have to be manually loaded. It's almost like the speedloader is too big for my grips. Do I just have to wear a space into my grips in order for all rounds to completely go in?

ndtish

You'll have to:

a. Change grips
b. Carry a second gun
c. Use a speed strip
d. All of the above
 
ndtish:

Me too. I have a 640 (hammerless 60) and Safariland speedloaders and the speedloader gets caught on the stock grip. I am on the trail of new grips that will allow the use of my speedloaders. (I'm going to try speedstrips, too, but I really like the speedloaders.)

Chris
 
on my j frames, i use safariland loaders with spegel boot grips and they work great. the safariland loaders are much more positive and quicker in loading than the hks for me. you can see just how quick the loaders can be by using them on your gun with the grips taken off. then just find a set of grips that will work.

ed
 
When I carried my model 60, I used Pachmayr compac grips. They made using the speed loaders quick and effortless.
 
on my j frames, i use safariland loaders with spegel boot grips and they work great. the safariland loaders are much more positive and quicker in loading than the hks for me. you can see just how quick the loaders can be by using them on your gun with the grips taken off. then just find a set of grips that will work.

ed

Thank you, Sir! Now I just have to get permission to get the Spegels that I have been lusting after. :D

Also, thanks for the comment about Pach grips, BFBoy. They are on my list but I am really keen on getting some snazzy wooden grips.

Chris
 
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This is one of my major problems with the Lasermax J frame grips - supposedly made for law enforcement and the "armed professional", yet they won't accommodate a speed loader without modification - which violates your warranty. I carry two HKS speed loaders, and a NY reload.

Regards,

Dave
 
I'm always amazed by the fact that while speedloaders have been in common use for close to 40 years, the factories still ship revolvers with grips that don't allow their use.

Second bit of amazement is that some grip manufacturers don't cut their grips for speedloaders. Seems a bit worse for J frames.
 
This is one of my major problems with the Lasermax J frame grips - supposedly made for law enforcement and the "armed professional", yet they won't accommodate a speed loader without modification - which violates your warranty. I carry two HKS speed loaders, and a NY reload.

Regards,

Dave

I'm actually thinking of modifying my grips. One reason I choose this firearm is that it felt like an extention of my hand, so I really don't want to change them at this time. I might just try a speed stip and see how that goes.

As far as the NY reload is concerned, I've been thinking about it, but my daughter recently became engaged, so I have zero expendable cash, and I refuse to go into debt to pay for a champagne wedding on a beer budget!

Thank you for your advise. It is much appreciated.

nd
 
Here's my solution, on a set of Eagles on my Agent:
A little quality time with the stationary belt sander.
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That said, on guns with a thin-walled cylinder hugging the frame closely, speedloaders will always be trouble.
Moonclips fix that and are actually faster and more positive, plus slightly more compact to carry.
Pinnacle Guns can do the deed. After many years and broken, worn-out speedloaders, it might even be cheaper in the long run.
 
nd,

Congratulations on your daughter's upcoming marriage. I know you must be very proud and a bit nervous. I've given quite a bit of thought to your statement about the NY reload, and I think that what it boils down to is that to have a reliable 2nd gun to draw and use is better than spending the time to reload your primary gun. Yes, ideally, your NY reload should be a name brand, top quality gun. But I think the reliability issue is paramount, followed very closely by your willingness, and/or ability to carry a second gun. As an example, my primary gun is usually a 432PD in .32H&R Magnum. My NY Reload is a .32ACP Seecamp. As you may know, the Seecamp has no sights. Larry Seecamp, the inventor, acknowledges that this is the type of gun you shove up someone's nose before you pull the trigger. It is truly a last-ditch type of gun. I can manage hits on a full sized FBI-type target with it at 3 yards - that's aiming at center mass, and I wouldn't dream of trying to get hits any further out unless under the most extremes circumstances. The point is, the Seecamp is reliable, and small, so it's very easy to slip into a pocket, so it's always on me. My point is, you may not have to spend much, if any money on a NY reload. You may just need to look at your current arsenal and do some thinking, or re-thinking. As an example, if you have a snubbie .22 caliber revolver made by a company other than Colt or S&W, or ____, or _____, but it goes "bang" every time you pull the trigger, and it's concealable, well, there is a NY Reload candidate for you. I'm not a LEO, and never have been so maybe someone from that community may want to weigh in an provide a better, or more accurate answer. This is just my $0.02 worth. Best of luck to you and your family - have a lot of fun at the wedding.

Best wishes,

Dave
 
I carry two HKS speed loaders, and a NY reload.

Regards,

Dave

As far as the NY reload is concerned, I've been thinking about it, but my daughter recently became engaged, so I have zero expendable cash, and I refuse to go into debt to pay for a champagne wedding on a beer budget!

Thank you for your advise. It is much appreciated.

nd

I too am an AVID supporter of the NY reload. ;)
 
on my j frames, i use safariland loaders with spegel boot grips and they work great. the safariland loaders are much more positive and quicker in loading than the hks for me. you can see just how quick the loaders can be by using them on your gun with the grips taken off. then just find a set of grips that will work.

ed

I have a set of Eagle boot grips on my 442 and the Safarilands work fine with them. They are faster and more reliable than the HKSs. I carry speedstrips only for an "after action" reload, and don't agree that they are anywhere near as fast as a speedloader. Of course, the J frame is typically a BUG for me and so hopefully it wouldn't get to the point that I would have to reload it (but one never knows). As Cherry River stated above, speedloaders are difficult with J frames. My Solution: get a bigger gun!
 
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