I had two bad experiences with the Lyman Turbotumbler. The first one I bought mail-order didn't work at all. The company I purchased it from told me to contact Lyman. Lyman said they wouldn't replace it. I was stupid enough to buy another Lyman Turbo-1200. It ran for an hour, then died. Again, Lyman would do nothing about it, but I had bought this one from a sporting goods store and the store gave me my money back. I then bought a Thumler's Ultra-Vibe 18 and have used it for 25 years with no problems. One thing nice about the Thumler's Ultra-Vibe 18 is that the motor is attached by a couple of bolts. If the motor dies, you can remove it and replace it easily. The Lyman tumblers, at the time I bought them, had the motors contained in a plastic housing that would have to be broken to get to the motor. My personal feeling is that you need to buy a good one from a good company, or you could end up eating the thing. These things are designed to VIBRATE, therefore they are essentially trying to shake themselves apart! You need to have something tough if you want it to last. If I was going to buy anything other than a Thumler's tumbler, it would be a Dillon. Dillon backs their stuff so well you know you won't get hosed if you buy their stuff.