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These are two of the guns I bought at a gun show last weekend. According to the SCSW 4th, the one on the left dates to 1909 (sn 20XX) and the other dates to 1912 (sn 108XX). These are the first I have ever seen in person. They both have finish issues but seem mechanically sound. I don't know if I overpaid for them ($1500 each) but I was determined to take them home. I appreciate any thoughts or insights you can offer.

 
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Nice looking guns! In my area (east TN) that would be a fair deal. The shorter barrels seem to command a little bit higher of a price, but I would be happy for those to be in my collection at $1500 a piece.
 
Well, for openers, you didn't pay too much.

For closers, the 20XX gun is a first year gun------1908. As to when it may have been shipped is another matter altogether---they didn't exactly fly off the shelves. As a matter of fact, the SLOW sales were the source of GREAT consternation for the powers that be. They solved that problem by getting rid of that (GOD AWFUL!!) expensive third lock, and the ejector rod shroud, and BEHOLD------the .44 H.E. 2nd Model---which they could sell for $2 less at the outset, and those sold for a looooooooong time------'til 1937---thereabouts.

And that's the way it happened----heading west!

Ralph Tremaine

I should have said they sold into the 1940's----they were made 'til 1937. I had one (a 2nd Model Target) shipped in 1940---along with 38 additional identical models shipped to a NYC distributor at a close out price of $17 each----a HELL OF A DEAL!! When you consider Registered Magnums cost $17 to make, it figures the .44 2nds cost maybe $16 to make. As to why they were so dead set on getting rid of them is anybody's guess!
 
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By the way, Shark, that 3rd model 44 is a stunner!!

Thank you. I have had some interesting info provided about it, but it has been tough to confirm. One comment was that there are less than 25 3rd model transitional guns with a 4 inch barrel known and maybe 100 were made.
 
Another 3rd Model story that was tough to confirm---or at least to explain was that some/many 3rd Model Targets wouldn't letter as such. I knew the story, but didn't know the why of it. Now we get into the good news, bad news part. I'm hot on the trail of a 3rd Target------one of less than 200 made, so says conventional wisdom. The good news there is it's as new. The bad news is the owner says he has a letter----but can't find it. (??!!!) There are BIG BUCKS involved to get to the end of this trail, and I'm not about to go there until I understand this "won't letter" business. I ask around, and nobody knows diddly. I ask Jinks---phone call. He tells me the gun I'm asking about was made in 1938, and that I'm "good to go"!------and that's the end of the conversation---no time for chit-chat. I'm a damn sight better off than I was before, but I still don't know the why of it.

I call Ed Cornett. He knows EVERYTHING---and has all the time in the world to explain it to me---or at least takes all the time needed to explain it to me. The first order shipped to W&K is heavy with fixed sight guns----way heavier than they'd anticipated would be the demand for targets. So as to meet the demand for targets, they ship a bunch of fixed sight guns back to be converted to targets----and everybody's happy---everybody except for folks who get a letter on a target that was originally shipped as a fixed sight gun----and the letter says it's a fixed sight gun. WHOOPS!!!!

Mine lettered as a TARGET. Now when Jinks told me I was good to go, it was because he knew the guns that were converted were earlier guns---originally shipped in the later 1920's---I didn't. Now I do!

"Too soon we get old, and too late we get smart!"------but I got smart in plenty of time!

Ralph Tremaine
 
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These are two of the guns I bought at a gun show last weekend. According to the SCSW 4th, the one on the left dates to 1909 (sn 20XX) and the other dates to 1912 (sn 108XX). These are the first I have ever seen in person. They both have finish issues but seem mechanically sound. I don't know if I overpaid for them ($1500 each) but I was determined to take them home. I appreciate any thoughts or insights you can offer.


Shark Bait, nice Triple Locks! I know that I have seen the type rear sight that is on the gun on the left, but please remind me what it is called. I would appreciate seeing some close up pictures of it too, if possible.
Larry
 
Two great buys, congrats!

The grips on 2064 with medallions are not correct and should not have medallions, but they are correct for TLs shipped after mid 1910 including your other TL.
 
Yes, finding the right stocks will likely be a challenge. But I'm happy to have the guns, of course. Both guns had rubber grips on them when I bought them, so anything other than that is an improvement.
 
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