Unproud owner of Sigma 40 VE

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After wanting to buy a gun for over 5 years I finally did it. Now the very UNproud owner of the Sigma 40. I absolutely HATE this gun and do not look forward to range shooting in the least. My previous experience was with my brother's Colt 1911. Love that gun and am super accurate with it - at my first range shooting with it I shot better than my brother or father who were extremely surprised at my accuracy. So I know I CAN shoot accurately with a good gun. The ridiculous safety/trigger deal is bizarre. By the time the trigger finally engages the round my arm is tired of holding it. The thing shoots low (with holding stable on the station) and I find I cannot adjust the sights (except for windage). Tried using my brother's yesterday to see if I lost my touch and shot super accurately again. The problem is me and this stupid gun. Has anyone else overcome this period of adjustment and finally able to accurately shoot his thing? I also find quite a few times when the next round does not clear and hangs up in the mag.:(
 
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Didn't you try the trigger before you bought it? I understand the inaccuracy as I am dealing with it myself. I am trying to master the different feel this gun has to others but I don't hate the trigger. It is just something you have to train yourself to use.
 
Well dry firing is much different than real firing. I did try the trigger before buying but feels totally different when actually firing. It takes SO long for the trigger to actually fire the round as compared to the Colt.
 
Hmmmm? Let's see $300 for the Sigma, $1200 min. for the Colt 1911,;)
 
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I also understand you cannot compare a Porsche and a Kia
 
Apparently not, otherwise you would bought the colt. Take dime and place it on the top of the frame near the front sight of the gun. After triple checking it is unloaded ( once for you, once for me, once just because), practice your dry firing like this. It can be used on an auto, revolver, rifle and I have found that it has been helpful for myself and others over the past 33 yrs. Once you develop the trigger pull on the Sigma, you will find that it translates well to snubbies, rifles, but the greatest benefit will be your accuracy. Be Safe,
 
Your comparing a colt 1911 to a Sigma and wondering why the trigger sucks:confused:

If you wanted a 1911 why didnt you buy one? It is a striker fired recoil dependent DA trigger what did you expect? The gun doesnt shoot low its you, you need to learn how to shoot a handgun. Sigmas require trigger control and a good grip.
 
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Hmmmm, will definitely try the dime thing. I KNOW it is the trigger and me that are not getting along well. Other than shooting until my hands are dead tired I needed another way to get "with one" with the gun.
 
If I had enough to buy a Colt I definitely would have. Thought that was a given.
 
40 ve or 1911 style,if you like and shoot the 1911's well that's the way to go. I shoot both very well,(to my standards anyway). However,if I carried one of my 1911's for ccw it would have to be condition three,(loaded mag,empty chamber). As it is, my 9 or 40 ve is my CCW of choice. You definately have a wide choice for Browning's masterpiece. S&W,Sig,Kimber,Springfield,Para, and of coarse Colt. If I were shooting a bullseye type match or any type for extreme accuracy,1911's all the way,but for everyday CCW,my sigmas are #1. Enjoy your 1911!!
 
The comparison is totally unfair in my opinion.

Single action, hammer fired vs double action striker fired....

I will say this...it takes alot of practice to become an accomplished
double action shooter. Either revolver or semi auto DAO.

I will grant the point that the Sigma trigger is heavy and long. It does
get better with use and practice.
 
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LOL, "take your time...quickly." I like that. I see others that love the Sigma so that's why I thought it takes getting used to. Obviously, it takes time to 'love' it. Will keep on trucking with it.
 
WOW.

With a thread title like that, I thought the thing had fallen apart in his hands or something.

I used to hear this sort of thing a lot when I owned a music store. A person buys their first guitar and comes back 6 weeks later and says "I still sound like ****!"

Your "hang up" jamming problem is possibly limp wristing - not holding the gun secure enough to allow everything to cycle like it should. A common problem with larger calibers. Who suggested a .40 caliber gun? I don't want to seem presumptuous about your abilities, but if squeezing the Sigma trigger makes your "arms tired" your level of hand strength may be prone to limp wristing.

My Sigma shoots straight and reliable, but it did break down early on. I got it fixed and it now works great. One hint is don't get demoralized.
 
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I have sevral pistols and can shoot really well with some, not so good with others. No big deal partner. I would give it some time, some practice, and see what happens. You may come to love it once you get used to it, and you may not. At that time you can decide what to do. So maybe you lose a hundred or so on a trade, you learned you don't like sigmas. While practicing, you can have the opprotunity to try other weapons, maybe evevn save up for a good S&W 1911. Stick with it, don't sweat it- you'll know how to handle it when the time comes. Look at it like this, you have an excuse to go shoot a lot- I mean, you HAVE to try and get used to it, and to research your next step....enjoy.
 
Get rid of it-you will never be satisfied with it or quit blaming it . You can join the long list of those that didn't try before you buy then are surprised at the well known characteristics of this handgun. I bet it is just like the one I have- it shoots exactly where aimed when it is fired. Learn to shoot it or sell it, it's as simple as that.
 
Definitely, LOL. I absolutely MUST go shooting. Since so many iked the Sigma I figure I have to give it a longer period before I totally give up. I love the way it feels in my hand (balancewise). IF i only wanted to target shoot I could have gotten a 22, but I want to know I can protect my domain if Armageddon comes. While I am not happy with my accuracy with it let me also say I hit the 'meat' (body) everytime. I just want to hit within a smaller radius. With the Colt I can consistently shoot a small grouping - even to the point of shooting the same hole two or three times. With the Sigma the target is dead but not with finesse.
 
Break in

ikacc said:
After wanting to buy a gun for over 5 years I finally did it. Now the very UNproud owner of the Sigma 40. I absolutely HATE this gun and do not look forward to range shooting in the least. My previous experience was with my brother's Colt 1911. Love that gun and am super accurate with it - at my first range shooting with it I shot better than my brother or father who were extremely surprised at my accuracy. So I know I CAN shoot accurately with a good gun. The ridiculous safety/trigger deal is bizarre. By the time the trigger finally engages the round my arm is tired of holding it. The thing shoots low (with holding stable on the station) and I find I cannot adjust the sights (except for windage). Tried using my brother's yesterday to see if I lost my touch and shot super accurately again. The problem is me and this stupid gun. Has anyone else overcome this period of adjustment and finally able to accurately shoot his thing? I also find quite a few times when the next round does not clear and hangs up in the mag.:(
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I know a lot of shooter's have had problems with their new Sigmas. But a few 100 rounds through it
and some time dry firing it will fix'em right up. Unless there is a real problem with the gun.

I, like a lot of others had a hard time breaking them (Sigmas) in. But really it's
the same as a new car, it requires time and movement to mate the surfaces together.
My SW40VE now still has a hefty trigger pull (about 8 lbs) but not any worst than a lot of
double action revolvers. But after 1000+ rounds through Siggy ( yes I named my gun.heheh)
it has NEVER failed to fire, chamber or eject a round! I use it as my CCW and have complete faith it
will protect me in case I ever need it to save my life or my loved ones!
Just my testimony and two cents.
"mobilis in mobile"
shoot straight and safe!;)
 
I had the same problem with my current EDC (Glock 23 - don't worry, my M&P days will be back soon as I have a trade pending). When I first shot it, it was horrible. But after a few hundred rounds and concentrating on pulling the trigger correctly, I actually scored my first almost perfect bullseye last night. And my group was down to about 5" instead of the 10" to 12" I had been shooting.
 
I'm not the person to be handing out advice on target shooting, but many have told me "focus on the front sight more than the rear" and it really seems to be true. Also, if this gun doesn't work out and you decide to sell it, you might think about 9mm's too. Not all gun ranges rent guns, but many do, and renting would be a great opportunity to see what works for you beforehand.

Also, did anyone else shoot this gun? What did they think?
 
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I have taken aiming lessons and know to sight from the front with back lined up. I wish I had rented a few but never thought I would have such an issue with a gun that felt so comfortable in my hand and being so proficient with the 1911. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. It's just that since I live in NJ I have to wait 30 days before I can get another handgun and go through the same jumping through hoops to get it.
 
My brother and nephew both used it and thought the same about the trigger. Neither were as good on it as the Colt. I'm wondering if I should contact S&W or change the spring for a lighter pull. My first mag with the 1911 and my grouping was tight - like within three inch radius at 15 yds. And THAT was the first time I shot anything other than a BB gun. With the Sigma I'm lucky to get within 10 inches of each other, although they all are within the "body" on the target.
 
Comparing two VERY different systems here.You will NEVER get a Sigma or any other striker fired system to be like a 1911 so quit trying to compare them. Sell your Sigma to someone that will appreciate it for what it is...save your money and buy a Colt or any other high quality 1911.

Shooting a Sigma is not much different than shooting a double action revolver. Many people that take the time to learn the firearm ( Sigma) end up finding that they shoot VERY well.

Randy
 
growr said:
Comparing two VERY different systems here.You will NEVER get a Sigma or any other striker fired system to be like a 1911 so quit trying to compare them. Sell your Sigma to someone that will appreciate it for what it is...save your money and buy a Colt or any other high quality 1911.

Shooting a Sigma is not much different than shooting a double action revolver. Many people that take the time to learn the firearm ( Sigma) end up finding that they shoot VERY well.

Randy
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I agree..I have only had my 9VE for about 2 months now and have put about 500rds thru it and I still have some issues with it. Low and left...but its hitting the target. Doing alot better then when I first shot it. hang in there...
 
You gotta understand that weapons feel different to everyone who holds them, some shoot differently as well. I've bought and sold many pistols, so if this doesn't work for you then trade it in and try another. Someone else will enjoy it.
 
You mentioned installing new springs, think you're jumping the gun again- so to speak. Wait, give it a chance. Once you're either good with it or not- then you can decide. If you get ALMOST perfect with it, THEN you could consider internal changes. But go slow, like ya said ya gotta wait 30 days to get another- may as well take your time, see what happens before going thru the hassle again. Might just work out with the Sigma.
 
If you liked the colt that much, you should have gotten an American Classic II or Rock Island tactical. Both 1911's at a great price with decent quality.
 
Ditch the Sigma, eat the loss (I'll give you $102.00) and get the 1911 pistol. It seems to click for you. S&W makes a very good one. So does Colt and a host of other manufacturers.
 
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