Using non cannelure bullets in revolver loads

Deep Seating Bullets

I have some 240 gr Berry's plated bullets for .44 Marnum I am using Unique with...

Can I lower the bullets in a .44 Magnum case to roll crimp just over the ogive beginning with, say, 8.5 Gr of Unique - a very popular load around 1200 FPS - without raising pressure too high by shortening the OAL more than normal?

I don't know which bullet/shape you have, so it's hard to say exactly, but the RNFP bullets (like I posted above) usually don't need to be seated a lot deeper to reach the ogive. Other designs need more.

Recently I loaded some Rainier 250gr P-TCFP bullets in 45 Colt cases, using moderate speed powders, with a COAL of 1.600", a fairly nominal length. When I decided to try a load using a slower powder, 2400, I decided to deep seat them & crimp over the ogive to get a better burn. A change in COAL to 1.570" achieved that.

(It only needs to be seated so a caliper reading above the case mouth reads a few thosands smaller than the nominal bullet diameter & then taper crimped.)

The seating depth of the bullet went from ~.335" to ~.370" into the case. Using a simple volume calculator, created in Excel, that changed the "used case volume" from 32.1% to 35.5%, meaning there's 3.4% less case volume for the powder.

Using a chart, found in Lee's Modern Reloading Manual #1, by Vihtavuori, it indicate's the pressure would increase ~4.4% from this reduction in case capacity. If it was a 20K psi load that would raise it to ~20.9K psi.

So reducing the powder charge by ~3.5 to ~4.5% would offset the increase. (Dropping to 7grs would be a 17% reduction, way too much.)

I usually only deep seat in large capacity cases using reduced loads so the difference is of little consequence for me. Obviously deep seating in a 9mm would have greater consequences.

What barrel length are you shooting in that 8.5gr/Unique will give you 1200fps?? (More like ~925fps in a 6-1/2" bbl.)

A max. load of Unique with a 240gr JHP is over 10grs in a 44 Mag case.

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Per Xtreme Bullets website under load data

"Load Info

Our Copper Plated Bullets can be run at mid-range jacketed velocities or higher end lead velocities. We recommend keeping velocities to less than 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and using only a light taper crimp

Any velocities over 1200 FPS we recommend either our Heavy Plate Concave Base or Hollow Point products for superior accuracy. We recommend keeping velocities to less than 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and using only a light taper crimp

All of our Hard Cast Lead Bullets are approximately 18 on Brinell, our Cowboy lead bullets are approximately 15 on Brinell."

There you have it plated bullets = use light taper crimp and you should be okay. I will plan use my 9mm taper crimp set up to crimp with the seater plug backed way out.
 
This question is about 2 1/2 years old, and I'm still seeing this question, and the same answers on various reloading forums today. One reason I don't recommend plated bullets to new reloaders...

FWIW, my trial of about 900 plated bullets in a few different calibers showed me no advantage over my cast or purchased jacketed bullets, and a few disadvantages (price was close, but I was able to find JHP/FMJs for very close to the plated price)...
 
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