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Just took my class for Utah's non-resident CCW,it's going in the mail today.The backlog is 4-5 months,they had 16000 in June alone.
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USAF385
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Here in my county in PA, it's still.... walk in to the Sheriff's office, fill out paper work, wait for them to do their paper work / call in background check, pay $25 and leave within 10 minutes with your permit.
DaveB57
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I'm also in the wait period...My understanding is they are @ a 90 day backlog from the time they cash your $65.25 (that makes my special day 9-11).
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DaveB57
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Nice surprise today...Permit arrived!
71 days after they charged my card, it was in the mail today...Utah CCW permit. Very nice feeling!
71 days after they charged my card, it was in the mail today...Utah CCW permit. Very nice feeling!
How about for Utah renewals?
Anybody know how long renewals take? Or how about how far in advance can one apply for a renewal?
Anybody know how long renewals take? Or how about how far in advance can one apply for a renewal?
DaveB57
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Renewals are quick...Utah sends out notices 45 days before expiration or you can download the renewal form on your own from the BCI website. No waiting on fingerprints.
Thanks, Dave.
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I've noticed that some states like Pa. where you don't have to take any safety courses, range time, etc. walk in get your license and your own your way and start carrying...sounds good but that's why other states won't honor your permit and you have to purchase out of state permits because you don't have to go through training to demonstrate your ability to handle your weapon. I wish all states would get together, agree on what type of training to have and then all states honor each others permits. Life would be much easier.
reerc
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I think the Utah course is too easy. While the classwork part was good, we aren't required to do any actual live firing. We had to show the instructor we knew how to handle the guns, both semi-autos and revolvers, but I think live firing on a range would weed out some who may not be "ready" yet.
I can't believe that the state makes any money on issuing them, given the manpower and time it takes them to do the background checks and process the paperwork. I'm really quite surprised they sell them to non-residents - but I don't have anything against y'all who are making use of this service.
I can't believe that the state makes any money on issuing them, given the manpower and time it takes them to do the background checks and process the paperwork. I'm really quite surprised they sell them to non-residents - but I don't have anything against y'all who are making use of this service.
DaveB57
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The class I took went above & beyond...full 8 hours w\ qualifications to Ohio's standard plus we did some defensive handgun drills w\ moving (in & out) targets (lights out w\ flashing lights & sirens blasting)...Then my wife took @ 3 hour class @ a retail sporting goods store w\ absolutely no hands on drills. It is our right, you know.
flop-shank
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Exactly. There need not be any license, in any state.
Passing a test to exercise a right
Since we are having to buy a Government license to exercise a Constitutional Right, there is great danger in requiring demonstration of shooting ability. Would you want to be required to take and pass ALL of the police course, including physical conditioning, to carry a gun? Neither would I.
Having taught both the UT course and other state courses that DO require firing, I think UT has it right. Actual pistol training courses, like the NRA's, sould be available and strongly encouraged, but not state mandated. In the OK carry course, the students get all wrapped around the axle worrying about "passing the shooting part" and don't listen during the LAW portion, when they should really be paying attention.
Some have the illusion that the firing check in a licensing course is actual defensive training; it is not. A good basic self-defense pistol course takes a couple of days, not a couple of hours, and should be taught separately. Everyone needs a good defensive pistol course unless previously trained, but NOT as part of the state-mandated course to get a license.
Since we are having to buy a Government license to exercise a Constitutional Right, there is great danger in requiring demonstration of shooting ability. Would you want to be required to take and pass ALL of the police course, including physical conditioning, to carry a gun? Neither would I.
Having taught both the UT course and other state courses that DO require firing, I think UT has it right. Actual pistol training courses, like the NRA's, sould be available and strongly encouraged, but not state mandated. In the OK carry course, the students get all wrapped around the axle worrying about "passing the shooting part" and don't listen during the LAW portion, when they should really be paying attention.
Some have the illusion that the firing check in a licensing course is actual defensive training; it is not. A good basic self-defense pistol course takes a couple of days, not a couple of hours, and should be taught separately. Everyone needs a good defensive pistol course unless previously trained, but NOT as part of the state-mandated course to get a license.
Here's the URL for UT's CCW page. It also links to out of state certified instructors.
Utah Department of Public Safety
Here's a link showing which states accept UT's CCW.
Utah Department of Public Safety
Taking the course next month on the 10th out this way.
Hard to beat $80 course, $65 permit for 5yrs, $10 5yr renewal. Good in 30 states.
Utah Department of Public Safety
Here's a link showing which states accept UT's CCW.
Utah Department of Public Safety
Taking the course next month on the 10th out this way.
Hard to beat $80 course, $65 permit for 5yrs, $10 5yr renewal. Good in 30 states.
Sonny Boy
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From application to card, 45 +or- days. Very quick. But with Nevada backing out crap...
MR. IHC
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what's the deal with these utah permits anyway. i see them advertised in the syracuse paper all the time. they aren't valid for use in new york are they? i have my new york permit, and yes it took three months last year to get. anyway, what are the advantages? i saw it said something about being able to carry concealed, in other states, is that it? my permit is carry concealed, but also says to and from target only. this states permit laws are so fudged up it isn't funny anyhow. back to the point, what is the idea behind getting one of these utah permits?
MR. IHC
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amen to that!
You've just about answered your own question. NY is not the norm.
The UT or FL permits allow concealed carry in over 30 states for personal defense.
Although there are many states that will recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit, the State of Utah has formal reciprocity (written agreement) with the following states :
Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Washington State
West Virginia
The following states recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit:
Arizona
Arkansas
Delaware
Idaho
Indiana
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
New Mexico
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Vermont
Wyoming
Utah is supposed to get you the permit withing 60 days. But they've been backlogged. So they're saying 60 days from when your payment is processed. It seems to have been working out to less than 90 days. I don't care the wait in NJ is 'not gonna happen' unless you're an ex-cop, judge, or $$$$$.
Oh and if you're non-resident, double check the reciprocal states. A couple of them apparantly are reciprocal for residents only. It looks like you lose CO, MI, and FL if you're not a UT resident.
USA Carry - Open and Concealed Carry Information and Community has a good map system to check reciprocity. It's good for other info as well.
Oh and if you're non-resident, double check the reciprocal states. A couple of them apparantly are reciprocal for residents only. It looks like you lose CO, MI, and FL if you're not a UT resident.
USA Carry - Open and Concealed Carry Information and Community has a good map system to check reciprocity. It's good for other info as well.
reerc
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Good point sir.
self protection
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I took the Co CCW class last January. It was a 15 hour class in one day. We shot at least 100 rds. I then took the Utah class which was just 3 more hours. No test on the Utah one. It took 3 months to get both permits. They both came on the same day.
sixshot
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We just gave our second Utah CCW class, the instructor (a Lawyer) said there were 23,000 applications in for septemebr. There's been a real increase since November, wonder why!
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