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I've got a pawn shop in my area that just got in a Model 66, pinned and recessed, with 2.5 barrel and target finger-groove grips. The gun also has a round butt. They haven't had a chance to price it yet so I was hoping to get an offer in to them before they decide to slap a high price tag on it. I asked about the SN and they gave me the production number on the yoke, so they may not know what they've got.

I know the no-dash, p&R 66s usually draw a bit of a premium, but what's a decent price that I can throw at them for the gun? And what is the gun actually worth? I would say condition is abot 95%.
 
Hi,

I would offer $350 knowing the pawn will want $400. If you and the pawn shop can settle on a in between price I feel you did well.

Good luck,
Howard
 
So you're thinking that a value of about $350 to $400 for the gun would be about right?

I know GB isn't the best way to get a temp on gun values, but it seems like dashed models that aren't p&r'ed are going for about $400 or so.
 
004.JPG Here is my pinned and recessed 66-1 with finger grooved round butt combat grips. I paid $525 for mine . Hope this helps. I dont think I paid too much for mine , and even if I did , I dont regret buying this gun at all. It is a real shooter. very pleased with mine.
 
I was at a gun show recently where one of the dealers paid 500 for a 66-1 with box and papers from a walk in individual. He turned around and sold the gun within 10 minutes for $575.

If you can get the Mod 66 for around 400 I think you will have done well and gotten a great gun also.
 
If you can get that with combats for $350.... grab it, IMO it's more like $450-$500.
 
Alright the $500 figures were more what I figured it might be worth. I'll swing by the shop on my lunch break and let them know I'd do $350 cash and see wha they say. The worst that can happen is they say no.

Also, the gun looks almost identical to the one that BentTwig posted a picture of. It's a really sharp looking gun! SN dates the gun to be 1975 production.
 
I must have waited too late. The shop had a price tag of $550. I said I'd do $500, but they passed. I'll have to do some more looking into the gun and possibly my gun fund to see if I can meet them in the middle or something. Thanks for the help with this though!
 
Gonna give it a try. We'll see how it goes...
 
If you snooze you lose!

I was looking at one about 9 months ago in a gun shop in southern Missouri. He wanted $550 and would not go down. I figured I would look at a few more things then try again before I left, but when I handed the gun back to the owner of the gun shop, the guy behind me said..." I'll take it"
Have not had a chance to buy a no-dash since.
 
Cirrus said:
I must have waited too late. The shop had a price tag of $550. I said I'd do $500, but they passed. I'll have to do some more looking into the gun and possibly my gun fund to see if I can meet them in the middle or something. Thanks for the help with this though!
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I'd take it at 550, sell the combats for 75-100, and buy some nice magna's.
 
Around here any decent S&W 357 is a $400 to $450 revolver and one in great shape and a no dash Model 66 would be a $500 gun.
 
fyimo said:
Around here any decent S&W 357 is a $400 to $450 revolver and one in great shape and a no dash Model 66 would be a $500 gun.
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Guess they haven't heard of Gunbroker or the Internet in Ark. Seriously those amounts seem right for a typical revolver, not a no dash snub.
 
Wow! I read some of these "speculative" prices and wonder how people come to these conclusions.

Not that it has occurred on this thread but when I see people talking $350 or $400 for a plus 95% 2 1/2" no dash 66 I have to wonder where they're finding them. The 2 1/2" no dash or -1 66's are among the most sought after "modern" P&R S&W's anywhere...

I've gotta wonder if some of the price quotes often seen aren't being given by people seeking to buy one of these revolvers and using this method as a means to try to help reduce prices for themselves.

There just aren't enough of these revolvers around and available for anyone to make a consistent value assessment. I know because I'm looking for them all the time.

Anyone who finds an original and truly 95 to 100% 2 1/2 or 4" 66 no dash for $400 I'll buy it and pay them a finders fee to boot...

JMHO......
 
Well I went by the shop on Monday morning and they said they sold the gun that weekend. I'm kind of beating myself up about letting that one get away from me just to save a few dollars.

I checked GunBroker and there's only one other no-dash 66 listed and it has a "Buy Now" price of $925!

There's a couple 66-1s that are pinned and recessed on there though. How much difference is the dash 1 going to make in price, collectability, etc?
 
I recently bought a 4" 66 no dash for $650 + shipping w/ box/papers @ 98%. It was worth it as they are still cheaper than modern revolvers. Their value will only go up, It was a "no brainer" to get that no dash.:D
 
Doesn't look like I'm gonna have the opportunity to get another no-dash model now.
 
I haven't tracked the price differences between the "no dash" and the "dash 1". I'll be interested to see what others say, although to this point I would say except for me and TDC, the "experts" on this thread don't seem to value either gun very highly. I don't see either model very often, but I definitely see the "dash 1" more than the "no dash". My guess, and it's only a guess, is that a nice "no dash" is going to be valued by a collector somewhere around a $100-150 higher than a similarly nice "dash 1". For shooters, some prefer the "dash 1" due to the gas ring being on the cylinder instead of the yoke, but the older "no dash" revolvers also have the gas ring on the cylinder. Moreover, most people won't shoot them enough to ever know the difference. BTW, my comments are limited to the snub. I haven't been looking at the 4 inch models.
 
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I havn't noticed any difference in prices as to the series...the difference here seems to relate to the gun being P&R or or not, and the barrel length.

I am just stuck in the 90s when you could buy any 19 for $300 and 66s were $325...I bought a new in the box 19-4 Nickel 4 inch for $300 8 years ago...sold it for a $50 profit still NIB...wish I had that gun now...I wouldn't sell it, but it would be worth a whole bunch more than $300
 
So really the only difference in the no-dash and -1 is the gas ring?

I might keep an eye on the -1's then just in case. But it sure would have been nice to have a no-dash.
 
The allure of the no dash Model 66s stem from it being the first in the series. Collectors want them as they were the first 357s that S&W produced. The very early examples with the all stainless sights will always command a premium. Just watch what these 66 no dash guns will be worth in the future.
 
Would it be a bad idea to buy a -1 and use it has a carry gun and range shooter? The reason I ask is because I have several revolvers, but they're Colt Pythons and Diamondbacks and I can't bring myself to take them out of the safe to shoot, much less carry. I don't have any revolvers that I would feel comfortable shooting and carrying.

I'd like to have a 2.5" (I'm a Colt fan by nature and just can't fully appreciate the beauty of a revolver unless it has or looks like it has a full lug!) stainless Smith that I can alternate with my other carry gun and still have a good time shooting it at the range. I guess I just have expensive taste and like my guns to have a little extra value as well. I could easily buy a 66-3,4,5,or 6 and have it fill my need, but I just wanted the no-dash. And if I can't have the no-dash, then the gun would really need to be p&r'ed. Would it be a bad idea to carry a -1 and use it for having fun at the range?
 
Cirrus said:
Would it be a bad idea to buy a -1 and use it has a carry gun and range shooter? The reason I ask is because I have several revolvers, but they're Colt Pythons and Diamondbacks and I can't bring myself to take them out of the safe to shoot, much less carry. I don't have any revolvers that I would feel comfortable shooting and carrying.

I'd like to have a 2.5" (I'm a Colt fan by nature and just can't fully appreciate the beauty of a revolver unless it has or looks like it has a full lug!) stainless Smith that I can alternate with my other carry gun and still have a good time shooting it at the range. I guess I just have expensive taste and like my guns to have a little extra value as well. I could easily buy a 66-3,4,5,or 6 and have it fill my need, but I just wanted the no-dash. And if I can't have the no-dash, then the gun would really need to be p&r'ed. Would it be a bad idea to carry a -1 and use it for having fun at the range?
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No right or wrong here. Two camps. Some opt for shooting everything they own, others only want to shoot and carry guns that are less than pristine or might otherwise be considered "shooter" grade. If you fall into the first camp be prepared to devalue your gun through use and wear. Nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it goes. Rarity and condition are both important to value. Only you can answer if you prefer the joys of shooting a fine revolver versus owning a pristine example.
 
What would be the general concensus on a guy who carried and regularly shot a 66-1 2.5"? A guy who only shot a few .357s a year and primary shot .38s out of it.

Would more people say that guy is stupid for shooting that gun or would they say it's alright.

The reason I don't shoot my Colts is because they're all pristine and they cost a lot more than the 66s I've seen. But the 66 is a really attractive looking gun and I'd hate to buy another revolver and not be able to shoot it when I want to.
 
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Frankly, not shooting a gun and storing it is akin to worshiping the piece.

Perhaps an Elmer Keith or Skeeter Skelton limited production gun would be worth storing, but imho, moderate use and good care go a long way to maintain a gun's value.

Soon enough We'll all be planted and pushing up daisies or drifting particles on the sea.
I want to experience the pleasure of recoil from every gun that I own, because I suspect most of my little steel gems will be sold for colored paper, and probably end up in some friggin' Oriental bank account.
 
MakeMyNight said:
Frankly, not shooting a gun and storing it is akin to worshiping the piece.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Seriously, keep in mind some folks shoot and carry $3,000k+ Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, Nighthawk, etc. 1911's. Your 66 revolver won't approach those numbers anytime soon. Personally, I wouldn't shoot (or at least I wouldn't shoot very often) a pristine example, IF I have something comparable to shoot. For example, I have a pristine, very early pre-19 Combat Magnum I prefer to leave in the safe, but I have another K frame I can shoot and carry if I wish.
 
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