Vaping

[venomballistics]

vaping is still kinda new its a lot of chemicals going into your lungs that are not that great for you , you just havent seen the pictures of people yet with no arms and legs and serious health conditions yet

at the core, there are only 3 chemicals.
Glycerin
Propelyne Glycol
Nicotine
Each has FDA approval.

There has been some past drama in vape.
Some flavorings have surfaced that are destructive to lung tissue. Stay clear of flavors that rely on a butter flavor.

Do not vape any fluid, gel, or wax of Chinese manufacture.

Do not buy your Ecig from a gas station, super market, or walmart. These are cheap "Cigalike" cartridge types that give you no say at all over what is going into them. Go to a proper vape shop.

Improper flavorings and Chinese grab bag issues aside, the primary health issues have been bronchitis, pneumonia, and nicotine overdose.
Bronchitis and pneumonia issues track straight back to idiot hipsters who vape constantly. when I say constantly, I mean they puff on them like its the only place they can draw air.
Why? I can't figure it out, it's usually zero nic.

Nicotine overdose is primarily found among this same demographic. However, it is not limited to this demographic.
For those looking to vape to get away from cigarettes, start at 12mg and keep a pack of your usual smokes on hand.
the delivery is different, and the body panics till it adjusts.
If you finish that pack, try again with 18 mg.

12mg is roughly equal to a traditional smoke in terms of delivering a nicotine level. However, to equate the initial rush of a traditional smoke, some figure that to be around 48mg and that is where the OD possibility lives ... don't fight too hard here.

To anyone reading this thinking about vape as a means of giving up the lung torpedoes, Feel free to PM me. I'll do my best to keep you out of trouble.

 

[calmex]

I didn't even know what the heck vaping was until I read this thead. I thought it might be something like the Vikings, you know, "vaping and pillaging" so I had my expectations all built up for the completely wrong thing.

I mean, I guess one could go out vaping and pillaging but it doesn't sound like something you'd be able to convince a whole village into dedicating it's entire production cycle into doing year-after-year.

Oh, well.

 

[venomballistics]

"vape and pillage" ... I like it.

 

[M&P Freak]

I'd like to get my wife to quit smoking. She had tried many times but always fails.

Any recommendations? I know nothing about vaping. She had agreed to give it a try, but we both know nothing about it. Clueless.

 

[venomballistics]

I'd like to get my wife to quit smoking. She had tried many times but always fails.

Any recommendations? I know nothing about vaping. She had agreed to give it a try, but we both know nothing about it. Clueless.

my default advice is a 18650 mechanical mod, a good charger, 3 18650 batteries and a tank with 510 base.

an 18650 mech will fire virtually any tank, RDA or RTA, and thus runs from zero to hero depending on setup.
you need not get ridiculously spendy on the mod. At the end of the day they are all just metal tubes with a switch.
taking them up to full potential takes some brains which you can gain later if you so desire. for now, the tanks factory atomizers will keep it safely in check.

Juice .... start at 12mg, and a pack of smokes.
the delivery is different in that vape doesn't give a nicotine surge like a smoke does.
She might need a smoke in the morning and vape to maintain level, and she might need to sneak a smoke at night as well.
If she finishes the pack, go up to 18mg and try again.
I wouldn't call the transition rough, but I wouldn't call it perfect either due to the delivery differences.

Flavors ... in general people have this misconception that tobacco flavors will help .... nope. Keep it yummy. many of the tobacco flavors are repulsive and will deter you from using it leaving cigs as a default to return to.
Mango, pineapple, lemonade, and honeydew are at the very least tolerable if not wholly enjoyable to most. As such, present themselves as a good starting point.

Now go forth to vape and pillage

 

[BigG]

Quit cold turkey quite a few years back. Nope, not for me. You can keep it.

 

[M&P Freak]

my default advice is a 18650 mechanical mod, a good charger, 3 18650 batteries and a tank with 510 base.

an 18650 mech will fire virtually any tank, RDA or RTA, and thus runs from zero to hero depending on setup.
you need not get ridiculously spendy on the mod. At the end of the day they are all just metal tubes with a switch.
taking them up to full potential takes some brains which you can gain later if you so desire. for now, the tanks factory atomizers will keep it safely in check.

Juice .... start at 12mg, and a pack of smokes.
the delivery is different in that vape doesn't give a nicotine surge like a smoke does.
She might need a smoke in the morning and vape to maintain level, and she might need to sneak a smoke at night as well.
If she finishes the pack, go up to 18mg and try again.
I wouldn't call the transition rough, but I wouldn't call it perfect either due to the delivery differences.

Flavors ... in general people have this misconception that tobacco flavors will help .... nope. Keep it yummy. many of the tobacco flavors are repulsive and will deter you from using it leaving cigs as a default to return to.
Mango, pineapple, lemonade, and honeydew are at the very least tolerable if not wholly enjoyable to most. As such, present themselves as a good starting point.

Now go forth to vape and pillage

Thanks, but it's all Greek to me.

Links to any of this stuff? Is there a starter kit?

 

[snubbyfan]

I'd like to get my wife to quit smoking. She had tried many times but always fails.

Any recommendations? I know nothing about vaping. She had agreed to give it a try, but we both know nothing about it. Clueless.

I decided to quit smoking 16 years ago. Not try to quit. I stopped buying cigarettes and lighting them. Never smoked another one since.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SNAluOj6U[/ame]

 

[venomballistics]

Thanks, but it's all Greek to me.

Links to any of this stuff? Is there a starter kit?

I'm not a fan of the starter kit.
none of them are particularly upgradable so if its too weak for the job, you shelf the whole rig.
With a mech mod, at least it, the battery and charger remain while you just replace the tank.

any of these mods will do
The EHPro Nzonic | Madvapes
EHPro Origin | Madvapes
EHPro Crystal Mod | Madvapes

this tank has decent flow for a start point. replacement coils are locally available.
Kanger GeniTank | Madvapes

battery ...
PVTSO IMR 18650, 1600mAh Battery, Flat Top, 30 Amp | Madvapes

chargers ....
Vape Battery Charger, IMR Chargers | Madvapes

I'd opt for a nitecore

 

[Hellraiser]

If ya call people who smoke... "smokers"....

What do ya call folks who vape? Vapers? Vapires? (<-- I'd be skeert of vapires.)

Had a friend who got the "vapors" ever now and then... he just got really sad-like.

 

[M&P Freak]

I'm not a fan of the starter kit.
none of them are particularly upgradable so if its too weak for the job, you shelf the whole rig.
With a mech mod, at least it, the battery and charger remain while you just replace the tank.

any of these mods will do
The EHPro Nzonic | Madvapes
EHPro Origin | Madvapes
EHPro Crystal Mod | Madvapes

this tank has decent flow for a start point. replacement coils are locally available.
Kanger GeniTank | Madvapes

battery ...
PVTSO IMR 18650, 1600mAh Battery, Flat Top, 30 Amp | Madvapes

chargers ....
Vape Battery Charger, IMR Chargers | Madvapes

I'd opt for a nitecore

Thank you for that. Going to get something right away. My wife has been on vacation and I've let her know she is quitting for good when she gets back next week. She has tried to quit and I've just her try her way but it ain't working. Tough love time.

I've heard about vaping and how it helps some people quit, so we're gonna give it a try.

BTW I smoked for many years, now I can't stand it. Whatever it takes, I'm game.

 

[gregintenn]

My sister's kid never smoked, yet has one of these things around her neck now. It looks like a tampon. Ridiculous.

VB, You must be getting some sort of kickback out of these things.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'd like to get my wife to quit smoking. She had tried many times but always fails.

Any recommendations?

My recommendation is to wake up one day and stop, period.

Exercise. Keep yourself busy. Don't drink alcohol. Stay away from others smoking.

Nicotine is largely gone from the blood in days. Much beyond that it's a mental issue in some ways like the baby pacifier. She can do it if she wants to. Determination is the key.

Some don't want to quit. We're only on Earth a short while. Do what you want. That said, being dependent on sticking a battery in your face and sucking on it for nicotine to be able to cope with life seems pretty ridiculous.

 

[Rastoff]

She has tried to quit and I've just her try her way but it ain't working. Tough love time.

I applaud your efforts, but be careful. Most of us used the words, "...for better or worse..." in our marriage vows. This will definitely be one of the "worse" times. You can press, but you can't force anyone off an addiction if you really want it to stick. They have to make the decision for themselves or they will always go back.

 

[snubbyfan]

My recommendation is to wake up one day and stop, period.

Exercise. Keep yourself busy. Don't drink alcohol. Stay away from others smoking.

Nicotine is largely gone from the blood in days. Much beyond that it's a mental issue in some ways like the baby pacifier. She can do it if she wants to. Determination is the key.

Some don't want to quit. We're only on Earth a short while. Do what you want. That said, being dependent on sticking a battery in your face and sucking on it for nicotine to be able to cope with life seems pretty ridiculous.

Very well put.

 

[venomballistics]

My sister's kid never smoked, yet has one of these things around her neck now. It looks like a tampon. Ridiculous.

VB, You must be getting some sort of kickback out of these things.

Nope, not a cent.
If folks wish to give in to mob mentally and pile on, go for it.
I'll stick to my guns on the issue for every unfortunate soul who wishes to quit smoking and can't.
The kiddies who vape for show ... I will bet you that they annoy me far more than they do you.
They chose vape over fresh air. For what ever reason I never did figure out and I bailed out of that shop before I gave in to the temptation to bludgeon any of them with a stacked 26650 in the case.

had the customer base been made of more like the grandma preaching the praises of how it isn't as painful to walk ...... perhaps I could have stood the place. That's who it's for.

 

[Kinman]

I smoked off and over the years and quit for good in my early 40's. My son has been a smoker since he was around sixteen, it used to absolutely amaze me to watch him inhale, I swear he could finish an entire cigarette in about five or six pulls. He still smokes at 35 and occaisonally plays around with the E-Cigarette, has a buddy that builds an industrial type model with high voltage batteries. He still inhales a tremendous amount of steam and lets out this huge cloud on exhale...I don't care what anyone says that can't be healthy. I'm quite certain I will outlive him with a 29 year head start.

 

[Kanewpadle]

If you've never smoked before, you don't what it's like trying to quit.

 

[Rastoff]

If you've never smoked before, you don't what it's like trying to quit.

I've never smoked and you're right, I don't have personal knowledge. However, I have watched people struggle with addictions of many sorts. Smoking is by far the largest group of true addicts I know.

I tried to help a guy once, never again. I will encourage, cajole and promise my support, but I will never help by trying to limit access again. People become violent when they don't get the object of their addiction.

 

[venomballistics]

I've never smoked and you're right, I don't have personal knowledge. However, I have watched people struggle with addictions of many sorts. Smoking is by far the largest group of true addicts I know.

I tried to help a guy once, never again. I will encourage, cajole and promise my support, but I will never help by trying to limit access again. People become violent when they don't get the object of their addiction.

Yup.
they get plenty ornery when you suggest replacing the switch (cigarette) with a volume knob (vape) and leave it at their discretion to turn it down as they see fit.