Victory trigger disappointing. What to do?

I don't want to thread drift too much, but i just hit 70 myself. I can still shoot one handed fairly well, as long as i'm using a red dot and the trigger does it's job. My Mk III was a pain in the posterior to assemble, so I dumped it thinking that the Victory would take it's place, but the trigger on the Victory doesn't hold a candle to my old Mk III. I like to compete, so the Victory is going to need work, as I guess it's not the bright shining star that it's cracked up to be.

Yes but it was only $350 a lot less then my Mark III Competition that still needed a VQ trigger.
 
I have to admit that my Victory is a terrific very accurate shooter. I checked my trigger pull and it's only 3 lb dead on. I have a very short smooth take up with a crisp release of the hammer. Maybe I was lucky with the one I purchased. I don't know. All I can say is it's a keeper for sure.
 
I bought a new MKIII 22/45 target and I thought the trigger sucked. Lots of pre travel and then It got crunchy and had quite a bit of over travel as well. The VQ trigger and TK hammer bushing along with polishing all the other trigger components, made it very nice. I have about 1000 rounds through it without a malfunction.
Peace,
Gordon
 
I have to admit that my Victory is a terrific very accurate shooter. I checked my trigger pull and it's only 3 lb dead on. I have a very short smooth take up with a crisp release of the hammer. Maybe I was lucky with the one I purchased. I don't know. All I can say is it's a keeper for sure.

What do you mean by a "short smooth take up"? Are you saying that it creeps before it breaks?
 
My Victory has a very good trigger. S&W are known for this, whereby, Ruger's are known for requiring automatic trigger jobs. Actually, compared to my top of line M41, it's quite good.

Give it several thousand rounds to set in before final judgement.
 
I dry-fired one in a shop. It's a different trigger than the Ruger is all. The Ruger tends to have a very slack take-up, and then a crisp-to-spongey break. The Victory had a firmer take-up, a bit like you'd find on a lot of striker-fired pistols, and then an okay let-off.

Neither is like what you'd find on a 41 or a 1911, but neither costs anywhere near as much as those guns.
 
My Victory has a very good trigger. S&W are known for this, whereby, Ruger's are known for requiring automatic trigger jobs. Actually, compared to my top of line M41, it's quite good.

Give it several thousand rounds to set in before final judgement.

I sincerely doubt that *any* number of rounds fired will remove the creep.
 
If the one I tried is representative, it's really not bad at all, especially for new shooters. The break on a Ruger is a lot more springy and much heavier than the take-up. The Victory, for all its apparent other faults, is a lot easier to emphasize "keep the trigger moving" with.

Even on custom BE 1911s, a lot of guys select a roll trigger over a crisp break.
 
If the one I tried is representative, it's really not bad at all, especially for new shooters. The break on a Ruger is a lot more springy and much heavier than the take-up. The Victory, for all its apparent other faults, is a lot easier to emphasize "keep the trigger moving" with.

Even on custom BE 1911s, a lot of guys select a roll trigger over a crisp break.

Well, you have a point there, for new shooters. I'm not a new shooter. Other faults? I haven't noticed any. My locking screw has been staying tight. It's very well balanced. Easy to break down and clean, then reassemble. I use a red dot, so I can't say anything negative or positive about the iron sights. A very nice pistol other than the trigger.
 
I find the trigger take up annoying to say the least. Shooting one hand bulls eye it is too distracting. Searching for a way to improve it.
 
If your hoping S&W would improve the trigger on their dime, I would doubt it. Likely it's in spec and you need to remember this is their inexpensive model. If you want to pay their custom shop then that might work but could get expensive. I'd vote taking a look yourself ( if you inclined) or takeing it to a local smith . That said, I've never been a fan of putting $100+ into any $300 gun. You just never get it back.
PS if the trigger is anything like the 22A, it's not going to be cake walk. Hopefully these get popular enough where somebody comes up with an inexpensive drop in kit.

You are 100% correct in stating you'll never get it back, as least as far as resale is concerned. But in usage, it may well be a worthwhile investment. If it turns the gun into a performer you enjoy shooting and you get a lifetime of use out of it, that $100+ is a bargain. ;)
 
Until someone does actually market a new trigger design for the Victory I would have a GOOD Gunsmith does some polishing work on the existing trigger to take all the creep out of it. I just had my 45APC done a few weeks ago and its a whole new gun. NO Creep at all Just the wall and a light pull, about 4.5 lbs at the most down from around 11lbs. It cost me $90.00 to have this work done but is worth every penny when I shoot it now It also now has proper target adjustable sights on it as well as wooden boots as well. For a cheaper 45 I can compete with any make or model as its a sports model Norinco that now shoots as good if not better then a Colt or Kimber. All for under $600.00. I intend to keep it so I will always enjoy it. There are new triggers on the market already. Just read some of the others threads to locate them for as low as $35.95 for a drop-in trigger unit which is gauranted to be much better for the Victory.
 
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The trigger on my Victory is as nice as they come. I had a choice between several, I picked the one with the nicest trigger (none of them were what I would call bad).

I never buy any firearm without dry firing, if the seller does not want me to dry fire I say OK and move on.
 
Until someone does actually market a new trigger design for the Victory

Tandemkross does......

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I think the majority of S&W's have, very good triggers for the money. On the other hand, for decades, it's been known, if you buy a Ruger, expect the added cost of a trigger job. Period.

It's unfortunate that for the thousands of guns produced, a bad one got through. Send it back to S&W.

End of story.
 
What is the trigger pull weight on that trigger? I see take up and over travel is adjustable it maybe my next mod.
 
I should have one in my gun this Saturday morning unless the USPS screws the pooch. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but lots of other guns to compare it to. The ideal would be the Kidd single stage in my 10/22, but I'll settle for something a little less.
 
What is the trigger pull weight on that trigger? I see take up and over travel is adjustable it maybe my next mod.

On another forum, guys have said 2 1/2 - 2 3/4. Mine is currently 4+, so I have ordered one of the new TandemKross ones. If I can get rid of the take up, as well as lower the pull weight, I think I will be happy.
 
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