VT Senate - Lone Voice of Reason

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Wow. Im without any other words except to wonder if this guy wants to make the workplace safer for child kidnappers.
Jim
 
Wow. Im without any other words except to wonder if this guy wants to make the workplace safer for child kidnappers.
Jim

Woa...I'm surprised this needs an explanation...child kidnappers? did you fully read it? I fully expected that everyone would get it. This proposal serves one purpose...to illustrate the folly of these anti gun laws, to show that its not about saving lives and safety, its about contempt and hatred of guns. If this is going over everyone's head let me know and I'll delete the post, I honestly thought the purpose of this proposal is as obvious to everyone as it is to me.
 
Well, it ought to be obvious the thing is B.S. It isn't even dated, plus "Introduced by Senator Rodgers" is inadequate. The full name of the person introducing a bill must be on record. Oh, and "This act will take effect on passage"? No, it doesn't quite work that way.

The voters of Vermont actually pay their elected representatives to spend time on horse pucky like this? In genuine U.S. currency? Y'all need to dock him a day's pay for this jewel. This has the makings of a good article for The Onion.

It's Senator John Rodgers, by the way. This is what he looks like.

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Well, it ought to be obvious the thing is B.S. It isn't even dated, plus "Introduced by Senator Rodgers" is inadequate. The full name of the person introducing a bill must be on record. Oh, and "This act will take effect on passage"? No, it doesn't quite work that way.

The voters of Vermont actually pay their elected representatives to spend time on horse pucky like this? In genuine U.S. currency? Y'all need to dock him a day's pay for this jewel. This has the makings of a good article for The Onion.

It's Senator John Rodgers, by the way. This is what he looks like.

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Well...I didn't think it was important, but if you back up a bit you get the date and his full name, what I originally posted was the bill itself as introduced. It is not BS, it was just submitted, they convened for the new session Tuesday. But besides all that, I'm flummoxed at the reaction here, the word for what he did is Satire. Personally I like the use of satire to prove a point, guess I'm the outlier here once again. If I had a dollar for every time someone on this forum made the analogy that cell phone use kill more young people than guns, and rightfully so, I would be a millionaire. This Senator is a strong 2A supporter, and this is his way of telling his fellow Senators what he thinks of last years law raising the minimum age to purchase a firearm...I And this year when the new batch of gun control laws are proposed, he will be one of the few in the State Senate speaking out against them. Yup, I pay his salary...and I say give him a raise...he's all we got in the VT State Senate. Here's the link that proves its real...with date and full name:

Bill Status S.212
 
I sent the Senator an email today, thanking him for submitting this bill that used satire against the gun control crowd. This was his response:

"Thank you for the note and understanding the intent. Some of the responses that I have received make me fear for the future of humanity."
 
Funny left VT in 75 was a much better place then.
We have had const carry in that state for ever. Seems now the snowflakes in VT are not just the kind that fall from the sky from about Nov to Mar. seem to be yr round except when they melt they are still there unlike the natural kind.

Dont miss the state at all been here in TX (so Im Texan by time) since 75 been back a total of 3x for a total of 21 days. Could not pay me enough to ever live there again.


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I'm flummoxed at the reaction here, the word for what he did is Satire. Personally I like the use of satire to prove a point, guess I'm the outlier here once again.

I recognized it as satire, or a joke, or however you want to refer to it, which is why I talked about it the way I did. I've been a fan of satire ever since the early days of Mad magazine and The Onion. Satire and poking fun at stuff's a lot of fun...I do a good bit of it myself. Saying that, though, doesn't mean I approve of wasting a state legislature's time with joke legislation.

Rodgers also falls into the trap of using those clichéd comparisons just like gun owners do by likening cell phones to cars, alcohol, and tobacco and the number of people killed by their use. Those comparisons have been used so much, they no longer have any effect...if they ever did.

Apparently since this has made state and national news now, there are quite a few people who don't get the joke in addition to just members of gun forums.

Rodgers was interviewed about it and said he "probably wouldn't vote for it himself" and that he did it "just to make a point"...but then doesn't say what that point is.

I'm aware Rodgers is heavily pro-gun/pro-2A and an NRA member. I'm also aware that in April of 2018 he was considering a run for governor. He said he might run as a Democrat, or a Republican, or an Independent. Then in May, he decided he wasn't. Then he decided he might run as a write-in candidate. But in June he decided he "didn't have time" to run and campaign while running his construction business.

I don't know the man and I don't live in Vermont. Seems to me, though, that Rodgers might have a problem with decision making and how much he'd really want to commit to something.

My point is if you're against something, then speak directly to the thing you're against. Stop joking around and making people have to guess what you're trying to say.
 
My point is if you're against something, then speak directly to the thing you're against. Stop joking around and making people have to guess what you're trying to say.

I hear you...but we'll have to agree to...somewhat disagree. I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't live here to know everything this Senator does speaking out against gun control in VT. This Senator is from a more conservative, hard scrabble part of the state, the Northeast Kingdom, and his constituents will love this proposal. Speaking directly to the thing your against is something he does every year. He is THE ONLY State Senator to do so, constantly battling the dominant force in the Senate, progressives. At some point talking to a brick wall gets tiresome, and satire is all that's left. I think we need more of it...demonstrating absurdity with absurdity.
 
Funny left VT in 75 was a much better place then.
We have had const carry in that state for ever. Seems now the snowflakes in VT are not just the kind that fall from the sky from about Nov to Mar. seem to be yr round except when they melt they are still there unlike the natural kind.

Dont miss the state at all been here in TX (so Im Texan by time) since 75 been back a total of 3x for a total of 21 days. Could not pay me enough to ever live there again.


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Well thats nice...I guess that makes us even. You could not pay me enough to go to Texas, let alone move there.
 
Funny left VT in 75 was a much better place then.
We have had const carry in that state for ever. Seems now the snowflakes in VT are not just the kind that fall from the sky from about Nov to Mar. seem to be yr round except when they melt they are still there unlike the natural kind.

Dont miss the state at all been here in TX (so Im Texan by time) since 75 been back a total of 3x for a total of 21 days. Could not pay me enough to ever live there again.


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Well as a Texan myself, I feel a certain kinship with Vermont. The only two states that were once Sovereign nations.

But yeah, They've been under assault by Massachusetts transplants for a long time. HOLD THE LINE!
 
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