walking dead

[spoonltz28]

If it was me and Otis, I would have done the same thing.
This is not a war, it is survival of the fittest. Otis was the reason that they were there in the first place. He was not part of 'thier' pack, so it was not a friend that he had to kill.
Shane injured his ankle, therfore, Otis might have made it to the truck before Shane did.

Nobody said that is was right or the moral thing to do, but it did give Shane the chance to escape with the supplies to save Carl.

 

[1 old 0311]

If it was me and Otis, I would have done the same thing.
This is not a war, it is survival of the fittest. Otis was the reason that they were there in the first place. He was not part of 'thier' pack, so it was not a friend that he had to kill.
Shane injured his ankle, therfore, Otis might have made it to the truck before Shane did.

Nobody said that is was right or the moral thing to do, but it did give Shane the chance to escape with the supplies to save Carl.

It was a cowardly thing to do.

 

[badguybuster]

No way. Fat boy had it coming!!! Whats one of the biggest rules when hunting? "KNOW WHATS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YER TARGET!!!!" It was karma baby!! But ol shane has slipped over the deep end!



PS- Isnt anyone Zen around here? Bahahaha that was genius!

 

[Bombsaway]

It was a cowardly thing to do.

As has been said, I don't think Shane did it for himself. He knew that the medical supplies were necessary to save Carl's life and that they both weren't going to get out alive.

 

[1 old 0311]

As has been said, I don't think Shane did it for himself. He knew that the medical supplies were necessary to save Carl's life and that they both weren't going to get out alive.

The fat guy could have taken it out IF Shane volunteered to stay. Shane however chose to sacrifice the OTHER guys life to save his own.

 

[GatorFarmer]

The fat guy could have taken it out IF Shane volunteered to stay. Shane however chose to sacrifice the OTHER guys life to save his own.

I don't think Otis was going to make it one way or another. He was pretty winded and less fit and able than even an injured Shane. As my wife asked - "Why was a fat guy still around this far into the zombie apocalypse anyway?"

Plus...Well as a meal Otis was going to last longer as a distraction. There was more of him to eat. Sort of like Rick's horse last season. The zombies seem to go for the biggest meal - eating the horse and then giving Rick time to escape.

 

[Ironhand]

PS- Isnt anyone Zen around here? Bahahaha that was genius!

I'm liking Daryl more and more with each episode. His explanation as to why Merle had all those drugs in his saddlebag was golden, too.


"Merle caught the clap from time to time.."




I'm waiting for Glenn and Dale to unleash their inner bad *ss.

 

[dcxplant]

Anyone catch it this weekend?

Did she or didn't she? Place your bets!!

 

[johnsonl]

Now we get to play, "Who's the baby daddy?" Maybe Jerry Springer will do a cameo...

 

[dcxplant]

I thought that might happen when Rick showed up in season one. That was a bit easy...

Daryl's adventure was good.

The Doc/Preacher is pretty creepy.

 

[johnsonl]

Yeah, now we need to know why he keeps those walkers in the barn. Me, I'd tether them to a treadmill, hang something alive at the other end and let them "walk" a generator to keep my lights working.

 

[S. Hammer]

Yeah, now we need to know why he keeps those walkers in the barn. Me, I'd tether them to a treadmill, hang something alive at the other end and let them "walk" a generator to keep my lights working.

PETZ, People for the Ethical Treatment of Zombies would not be happy with you at all.

 

[pluspea]

I thought it was a rule not to shoot unless absoultely necessary(attract unwanted walkers), the shot across the open field with the others between the shooter, and the shooted, didn't make sence.

 

[johnsonl]

"It is better to be the shooter than the shooted."
That's why they use those long knifes...

 

[michael thornton]

Im guessing darrel will become infected by the recycled arrow he fell on, That ole doctor is getting pushy for a unarmed man!

 

[wildfiresrozes]

the only thing that I didn't like;

In season 1, Rick and the Asain had to smear dead body parts all over them so that they didn't 'smell fresh', so that they could walk by the zombies.
Now in season 2, they hide under cars and the zombies don't 'smell' them??

When they had to cover their scent in season 1, they were moving amongst them. In season 2 on the interstate, quietly hiding under cars was enough. Zombies can't think. They move on instinct alone...they want food, and they smell their scent, but their brain is not a functioning one, so they don't know/think to look under things. The smell is in the air, but until noise or movement attracts them, they just roam. Then when the one guy cut his arm, the scent was strong because he was bleeding...that's why Darrell covered him and the guy up with dead bodies...to cover the fresh scent.

 

[Sebago Son]

Im guessing Darrel will become infected by the recycled arrow he fell on, That ole doctor is getting pushy for a unarmed man!

Didn't I see a Zed chewing on Darrell's ankle as he woke up?

I bet Old Doc is a Cottage Liberal afterall... he doesn't like guns and he keeps a barn full of Democrat Voters just waiting for 2012...

 

[wildfiresrozes]

As has been said, I don't think Shane did it for himself. He knew that the medical supplies were necessary to save Carl's life and that they both weren't going to get out alive.

Of course he knew that, that was the whole reason for going in, but I don't think he's golden here.
Shane's a snake, in my view. He didn't just 'help' or 'take care of' his partners wife...he jumped right into helping himself TO his partners wife. Lied to Lori about her husbands death. Although he did step back when Rick came back into the picture, he held contempt in his eyes looking at the situation. Pulled the stunt he did in the CDC bunker toward Lori. Threw his little 'Im not talking to you, waah' tantrum when he realized he couldn't have his way anymore instead of just manning up. He did beat the **** outta the wife beater, which was needed, but he did it out of his own aggression, not just bc he was laying down the law about it. Then the whole thing with Otis? He was injured, yeah, Otis was outta shape, yeah...but he didn't even let Otis have his own chance on surviving. He saw a chance of ensuring his own chance and made a choice. All of that? SNAKE. I think his will be coming to him at some point...either that, or there will be some sort of revelation/epiphany/forgiveness. They are doing a good job of putting reasons to dislike him out there for us...they have to be going somewhere with that.

 

[wildfiresrozes]

I'm liking Daryl more and more with each episode. His explanation as to why Merle had all those drugs in his saddlebag was golden, too.

I'm really liking Daryl's character, too. I'm curious as to where it's going now that he is 'seeing' Merle. Something snapped with those hallucinations...the zombie kill necklace, etc..I wonder how bad it will get? I think there will be some sort of confrontation eventually, with Rick, per Merle's suggestion, but I don't think it will be too bad. Or maybe it is building up to be the season finale? (Darrel butts up with Rick, leaves us not knowing until next season)

 

[wildfiresrozes]

I thought it was a rule not to shoot unless absoultely necessary(attract unwanted walkers), the shot across the open field with the others between the shooter, and the shooted, didn't make sence.

Yeah, Andrea made a dumb choice, but I think she was just trying to prove a point. Her character was an attorney when the apocolypse happened, so she is strong...I think with her standing her ground on top of the RV, ("I don't want to wash dishes, I want to help protect us") she was trying to show that she could take on her share of zombie killin', too. She just didn't take into consideration the sound of the shot, or how dumb it was to shoot before she could see her target clearly...especially when the guys were already on their way out to take 'the walker' down. She shot out of emotion, and that's not a good choice.

 

[wildfiresrozes]

Didn't I see a Zed chewing on Darrell's ankle as he woke up?

I bet Old Doc is a Cottage Liberal afterall... he doesn't like guns and he keeps a barn full of Democrat Voters just waiting for 2012...

I don't think he got bit before he came to and kicked it off of him...but I don't think he will be infected from the arrow, either. They played up the Merle hallucination too much, he's got bidness' to attend to...and I think he is too important of a character to take out this early.

 

[Sebago Son]

"... he's got bidness' to attend to..."

Jen you don't suppose that that 'bidness has anything to do with getting busy with Carol do you? They do seem to have a 'thang... Darrel sees her as a momma and she has a history of making it with badboyz...

 

[wildfiresrozes]

Jen you don't suppose that that 'bidness has anything to do with getting busy with Carol do you? They do seem to have a 'thang... Darrel sees her as a momma and she has a history of making it with badboyz...

Hmm...maybe...I've thought that, too. Protector/protected...he's kind of a alpha male and she needs someone to look after her. Then last weeks (sunday before last) 'Cherokee Rose' episode. Something's brewing!

Along those lines...what about Shane and Andrea? You think they are going to make their getaway? Maybe that will tie into whatever happens with Shane? I think although she is trying to stand on her own and get looked at as a key player instead of camp keeper, she has too soft a heart to fall into the same steps as him. Maybe she causes or uncovers whatever kind of fallout happens to him? She does know about him and Lori...

 

[GatorFarmer]

Daryl had been recycling those arrows to shoot all their food for quite some time. Whatever is causing the zombies, it doesn't appear to be precisely a blood borne pathogen, or some people are just immune. Rick and Glen were covered with zombie innards with nothing but rain coats - not exactly much of a barrier to a virus - to protect them. The blonde was right on top of her sister when sister turned, and I think got blood on her. They've also all handled dead zombie bodies, and T-Dog had one on top of him - newly killed and juicy - while having a fresh wound on his arm. And then there was Daryl and Rick's autopsy of a dead one to see what he had for lunch - no masks, no eye protection.

Bites could be infectious and kill people because of bacteria on the teeth of the zombies more so than anything being in their saliva. It hasn't been fully established whether only those who are bit become zombies, or if everyone who dies - from any cause - is at risk of returning as a zombie.

Anyway... The Army bombing Atlanta didn't make much sense. If the zombies are breathing, or require oxygen, the obvious test would be to see if chlorine gas kills or injures them. It is easy to generate in quantity and to escape it, someone can simply go to high ground (it hugs low lying areas as it spreads). If the zombies are any sort of diseased human, as opposed to something supernatural, poison gas ought do the trick nicely.

Obviously the Doc is treating those infected as simply humans with a disease that is potentially communicable. Which is as valid a model as any other to some degree, after all we don't shoot people with TB even though they might spread it to others.

 

[Sebago Son]

"... Anyway... The Army bombing Atlanta didn't make much sense."

Ever been there Chris? One ride on M.A.R.T.A. or a day spent stuck in their traffic and I bet you'd wanna snake and nape it yourself...

Drew

 

[wildfiresrozes]

Saliva into blood stream. Like rabies. Also attacks the brain stem, spinal cord and nervous system similarly.

 

[dcxplant]

Daryl had been recycling those arrows to shoot all their food for quite some time. Whatever is causing the zombies, it doesn't appear to be precisely a blood borne pathogen, or some people are just immune. Rick and Glen were covered with zombie innards with nothing but rain coats - not exactly much of a barrier to a virus - to protect them. The blonde was right on top of her sister when sister turned, and I think got blood on her. They've also all handled dead zombie bodies, and T-Dog had one on top of him - newly killed and juicy - while having a fresh wound on his arm. And then there was Daryl and Rick's autopsy of a dead one to see what he had for lunch - no masks, no eye protection.

Bites could be infectious and kill people because of bacteria on the teeth of the zombies more so than anything being in their saliva. It hasn't been fully established whether only those who are bit become zombies, or if everyone who dies - from any cause - is at risk of returning as a zombie.

Anyway... The Army bombing Atlanta didn't make much sense. If the zombies are breathing, or require oxygen, the obvious test would be to see if chlorine gas kills or injures them. It is easy to generate in quantity and to escape it, someone can simply go to high ground (it hugs low lying areas as it spreads). If the zombies are any sort of diseased human, as opposed to something supernatural, poison gas ought do the trick nicely.

Obviously the Doc is treating those infected as simply humans with a disease that is potentially communicable. Which is as valid a model as any other to some degree, after all we don't shoot people with TB even though they might spread it to others.

I just had an "a-ha" moment. The reason the doc keep 'em is he is running experiments to cure them.

Remember the conversation with Rick about how mankind has been fighting plagues since forever?

 

[dcxplant]

Saliva into blood stream. Like rabies. Also attacks the brain stem, spinal cord and nervous system similarly.

That's what I was thinking.

BTW I like your analysis-s-es-sees (always had trouble with that one..)

 

[wildfiresrozes]

Anyway... The Army bombing Atlanta didn't make much sense. If the zombies are breathing, or require oxygen, the obvious test would be to see if chlorine gas kills or injures them. It is easy to generate in quantity and to escape it, someone can simply go to high ground (it hugs low lying areas as it spreads). If the zombies are any sort of diseased human, as opposed to something supernatural, poison gas ought do the trick nicely.

Obviously the Doc is treating those infected as simply humans with a disease that is potentially communicable. Which is as valid a model as any other to some degree, after all we don't shoot people with TB even though they might spread it to others.

Chlorine gas, mustard gas, or any other variation of sulfur, chlorine/chloride, muriatic acids, etc, won't affect them. Breathing and oxygen doesn't matter. Same with say, water. Zombies can't swim; they are not capable of doing so, BUT, they can walk out into the water..they won't float, they will just keep walking on the bottom, so in theory, if you were to go out on a boat into a deep body of water, you would be golden. As long as you don't get into the water where it is shallow enough for them to reach up and grab you; although I don't know if their olfactory senses would still function under water, if they could see you, they would grab you. Bottom line to that, taking away their oxygen would not matter. You have to destroy the brain stem itself. Thalamus, Pons, midbrain, medulla oblongata, and of course the top of the spinal cord and the nerves because the actual brain stem is sending the messages to the body via abducens, glossopharyngeal, hypoglossal, vagus, (which are really all part of the medulla area)...the nerves from the stem. The cerebellum, cerebral hemispheres, diencephalon...they are all just there...the zombie's "life" is all in the brain stem.

I agree with the vet/farmer keeping them in the barn as infected 'patients'. Any true doctor or science type brain is going to see the possibility of finding a cure. Their minds are wired to heal, not kill. Maybe they are locals or friends of him and his family? Hopefully we find out this coming Sunday! It's going to drive me batty waiting on the answers! lol. (I may be just a tad too involved in this show for my own good.)

 

[johnsonl]

Waste of a perfectly good canned ham, I'd say...