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That's why I stayed here with my questions. This place has been most helpful. As I own several Brand X types, I figured that the S&W crowd here also does.
Walther PPK any Walther folks on here
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That's why I stayed here with my questions. This place has been most helpful. As I own several Brand X types, I figured that the S&W crowd here also does.
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No proof marks has me thinking it is a "employee discount" Lunch Box SpecialLook it over carefully before you shoot it! Kyle
That's certainly a possibility, this one just doesn't fit any mold that I've been able to find.
Joe, there are a bunch of pretty good guys over at the Walther forum, including (blush) myself and quite a number of guys that belong on this forum, further including some who have posted on this page!! (But far be it from me to "out" them!!).
I belong over there, (I'm les.b there as well), but since I only have a few Walthers, I'm not there very much. But.....if we can't figure this out here, maybe you should consider having some of their experts weigh in...but if you do, and find out anything, be sure and let us know...I for one am sure curious!!
I like 4T5GUY's theory, that this was issued by some clandestine outfit!! That sure adds to the mystique!!
Best Regards, Les
I belong over there, (I'm les.b there as well), but since I only have a few Walthers, I'm not there very much. But.....if we can't figure this out here, maybe you should consider having some of their experts weigh in...but if you do, and find out anything, be sure and let us know...I for one am sure curious!!
I like 4T5GUY's theory, that this was issued by some clandestine outfit!! That sure adds to the mystique!!
Best Regards, Les
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Notice the difference in the style of the numerals between the frame and slide? Perhaps a replacement for the original that was damaged beyond repair. Would like to see a picture of the other side of the slide.
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It’s my understanding that the “drop eagle 863” proof was used on post-WWII West German military pistols. They were not intended for the commercial market and don’t have the typical commercial proof marks.
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Looks like you have the same marks on your frame as I do. What do they signify?
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I picked this one up a few months back..
I was able to dig up a little more info on the post-war Walther PPK. The serial dates your gun to 1968-69.
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PPK Box and accessories
The PPK came in this cardboard box, note that the guns serial number is on the end label. With it I also got the extra magazine and shoulder holster set-up. Note that the threading on the left side of the actual holster is coming apart. This suggests to me that this rig saw considerable use. At least it was worn a lot.
Is the box original to the gun?
The PPK came in this cardboard box, note that the guns serial number is on the end label. With it I also got the extra magazine and shoulder holster set-up. Note that the threading on the left side of the actual holster is coming apart. This suggests to me that this rig saw considerable use. At least it was worn a lot.
Is the box original to the gun?
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Thanks so much for your help. Please see the pics of box and accessories.
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I have read somewhere, that police and military orders weren't proofed. Given that, what's the likelihood that they were shipped in a plain cardboard box?
The Drop Eagle 836 proof marks are Post WWII acceptance stamps used by the German Materials Testing Agency of the Ministry of Defense. These were used on Post WWII military weapons both for Germany and members of NATO who had purchased Walters. The British MOD used this proof their PP.22 lr issued in Nothern Ireland, (which is another interesting subject.) My British Army L66A1 did come in a cardboard box.
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The plot thickens
After taking the pics of box and accessories, I picked up the box and the end label fell off. Lo and behold, under the label is a hand written serial number for my PPK. Guess the old label glue just couldn't hold on any more. Yes, I'll keep the label safe.
Same question, is the box original to the gun?
After taking the pics of box and accessories, I picked up the box and the end label fell off. Lo and behold, under the label is a hand written serial number for my PPK. Guess the old label glue just couldn't hold on any more. Yes, I'll keep the label safe.
Same question, is the box original to the gun?
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Jim, does your box look like mine? Please see the pics of my box. The puzzle pieces are coming together, especially the NATO connection for my PPK. I have a rumour, as told to me by the guy I got it from, about my PPK to relate later on. He had it since 1985 till I got it.
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Yes indeed, NOW my box looks like yours. 
My box did not have the label on it, just the hand written serial number on it. Otherwise, it looks to be the same even though mine was for a PP.
This is fun, thanks for your original post and questions.
Jim
My box did not have the label on it, just the hand written serial number on it. Otherwise, it looks to be the same even though mine was for a PP.This is fun, thanks for your original post and questions.
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Well, now we're getting somewhere. Your box looking like mine lends some credibility to the thought that the boxes are original to the guns as an austere police or military issue. No need for fancy anything, here's your shipment of PPK's. Now issue them to your people. That the boxes actually stayed with the guns is amazing, or is it? Yes, this is fun, it's winter, can't mow the lawn or go for a motorcycle ride, lets find out a few things.Yes indeed, NOW my box looks like yours.
This is fun, thanks for your original post and questions.
Jim
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Actually I always assumed that the box was just for importation reasons. I thought the hand written serial number was written on any box and then the pistol got thrown in. Maybe not huh?
I never cared about the box, (till now maybe,) as I didn’t think it had any real importance. I was just happy to find out that there were just 3000 made/bought by the British MOD for issue in Northern Ireland, and only 1500 were imported into the U.S..
We have waited long enough, what is the story, (that was told to you,) about your PPK ?
Jim
I never cared about the box, (till now maybe,) as I didn’t think it had any real importance. I was just happy to find out that there were just 3000 made/bought by the British MOD for issue in Northern Ireland, and only 1500 were imported into the U.S..
We have waited long enough, what is the story, (that was told to you,) about your PPK ?
Jim
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