We don't need bear protection after all

[Kid44]

Whew! We can all now leave our bear revolvers at home.

You are 12 times more likely to die of a bee sting than a bear attack (120 times more likely compared to a black bear).



You are 10 times more likely to die from a dog attack than a bear attack (45 times more likely compared to a black bear attack).



1 person out of 16,000 commits murder but only 1 grizzly bear out of 50,000 ever kills someone and only 1 black bear out of 1 million does so. So people are much more dangerous to be around than bears!!



There are about 750,000 black bears in North America and on average there is less than 1 person killed by black bears per year.



For each person killed by a black bear attack there are 13 humans killed by snakes, 17 by spiders, 45 by dogs, 120 by bees, 150 by tornadoes, 347 by lightning and 60,000 by you guessed it, other humans.

 

[MrJT]

I'm pretty sure USAF385 has a surefire solution to all of those threats.... I know he keeps its real shiny and wields it well.

 

[SgtLumpy]

Bears may not kill many people right now. But the minute all those "Right to Bear Arms" people get their way, we'll have maniac Kodiacs with assault weapons seeking payback.

Oh wait...


Sgt Lumpy

 

[pinduck]

Thats why I have a CCW and carry a 3" 686+.
Glen

 

[peyton]

I tell people when I was in Alaska, "having a gun is more comforting than a pointy stick when those bushes start rustling"!! Heck, we really had more problems with moose!!

 

[finesse_r]

Whew! We can all now leave our bear revolvers at home. You are 12 times more likely to die of a bee sting than a bear attack (120 times more likely compared to a black bear).

You make a great case for carrying bee spray as well as a revolver.

You are 10 times more likely to die from a dog attack than a bear attack (45 times more likely compared to a black bear attack).

I think this depends on where you live. In NYC I would agree. In bear country you statistics are really not valid. In fact if you are hiking in the outback of Alaska or Wyoming your statistics are backwards. Duh!

1 person out of 16,000 commits murder but only 1 grizzly bear out of 50,000 ever kills someone and only 1 black bear out of 1 million does so. So people are much more dangerous to be around than bears!!

Sounds like a sane man carries a gun that will handle both.

There are about 750,000 black bears in North America and on average there is less than 1 person killed by black bears per year.

As we allow more and more crazies to enter this country, more and more sane people are pushed out into the countryside and at the same time protections extended to wild predators are rapidly changing the situation. If you want to see more and more people killed by bears just keep restricting citizens gun rights. The main reason for this is that bears have some instincts to fear men. If they find men are no longer dangerous to them, you can expect many more attacks.

For each person killed by a black bear attack there are 13 humans killed by snakes, 17 by spiders, 45 by dogs, 120 by bees, 150 by tornadoes, 347 by lightning and 60,000 by you guessed it, other humans.

That is all interesting, but if you are the one person being mauled or killed by a bear statistics don’t mean very much. Something else that is interesting is the number of such attacks are increasing. Your presentation of statistics implies this is a static situation, and it is not.

I would agree the two legged predators are by far the greatest threat to people. But where I live we have bob cats, coyotes, wild boar, alligators, deer, rabbits, squirrels, a variety of hawks, many snakes, bees, and a litany of animals and insects to great to list and this is just on my place. In the area, there have also been rare reports of black bears, and panthers (I have not seen either and hope I don’t)

 

[DeadAye]

So one should carry a Contender in .17 Bee eh?
Rather hard to conceal though....

 

[Dominus_Lex]

Bears may not kill many people right now. But the minute all those "Right to Bear Arms" people get their way, we'll have maniac Kodiacs with assault weapons seeking payback.

Oh wait...


Sgt Lumpy

Get with it, it's the "Right to Arm Bears", which would make hunting them much more interesting.

 

[taxifolia]

Reality check

As peyton said : "having a gun is more comforting than a pointy stick when those bushes start rustling".
I was out in woods with daughter about 7 years ago retrieving data recorders.
She walked up road to get one, I dropped off to get another.
She came running back and said she saw Mama and cub cross road and head toward me - she was worried about Dad.
I got my recorder - she did not get hers.
Question then was - abort retrieval and come back later - or go after hers. Decided to get hers.
With great regret, I was not carrying.
I picked up a rotten tree limb for protection - if you haven't been there, you would not know the sinking feeling of wishing you were carrying and hoping a tree limb would protect you.

 

[arjay]

Several years ago I was fishing the north fork with my bil.He had told me there were grizzlies hanging around so I brought my 44.Fishing was slow so I kept moving downstream.There were a bunch of crows raising hell further down,but I couldn't see what they were on because of the willows.Bored and curious I headed in for a look .At about 25 yards they stopped squawking and just watched.About then I caught wind of a strong stench and the hair on my neck stood up.I backed out of there and headed upstream and started fishing again.There were 3 young girls sitting on a log with their horses tied off nearby that watched me for awhile.When I decided to move upstream again,one of them called over " hey,mister,we saw a grizzly go in those willows about an hour ago"

 

[BigBill]

It's not the fear of bears it's a wounded one during hunting season that I worry about. I hear so many stories were they shot it and can't find it. I had two hunters that came across two valleys and one mountain tracking a wounded bear they shot in the butt. We shot this bear the next season and I found a 30cal bullet in its butt. My uncles taught me before going hunting with them if you don't have a clear shot for a quick clean kill let it go. I'm very cautious of a sow with her cubs too. I back off when I see there tracks in the snow. The sow follows more of a straight path while the cubs wander and zig, zag over the sows tracks. When in bear country we need to stay alert and give them there space too. When they don't know your there they make all kinds of noise. Once they know your there they go into stealth mode and move very quietly. You won't hear a twig snap.

 

[Fishinfool]

So what would be a good load for use against a raging honey bee? What about an Africanized bull honey bee?

Larry

 

[arjay]

A shot cartridge with number 12s, of course

 

[DustyJacket]

 

[Roadtrash]

When you start shooting those African bees be sure you have a silencer because they don't like loud noises. It could bring the whole swarm down on you.

 

[steelslaver]

Statistics are numbers torchered to confess.

While I live near black bears and sometimes camp, hunt and fish areas that contain grizzlies, I usually don't worry to much about bears. That and those statistics go out the window at times. When you are gutting out an elk and you know bears have learned that rifle shots can mean dinner time I am not worried about bees, dogs, spiders or tornadoes. I do worry about bears and some of the humans.

 

[finesse_r]

The problem with killing one of those trophy sized African Bees is finding a taxidermist with the skills to properly stuff and mount one for display.

 

[bgrone]

Bee defense

Maybe a bee-bee gun would be appropriate.

 

[1morethan8]

Humm.. all well and good until you become the "statistic"!

Ask this lady what she thinks...

Story of bear attack to air | timesfreepress.com

 

[woodsltc]

Bears may not kill many people right now. But the minute all those "Right to Bear Arms" people get their way, we'll have maniac Kodiacs with assault weapons seeking payback.

Oh wait...


Sgt Lumpy

Did you mean this??