We need concealed carry in our schools

[Buffalohunter60]

Just heard about the tragity in the school in Conn. So tragic and this can be prevented or at least stopped quickly. Just my opinion...but I think that part of being a teacher should be training in concealed carry and being proficient using a weapon. Because no one had the ability to stop this mad man...he took a lot of innocent lives. Only the law abiding citizens are prevented from carrying at school.....the criminals and insane or drug pumped radicals do not care what the law is. I would feel alot better knowing the teachers at school had the ability and training to put a stop to a mad man that has gone on a killing spree. Gun laws as all of us are aware...will never stop a criminal. There are a lot of folks on here....what do you think? And what can be done to combat this in your opinion? Our police officers can not be everywhere when they are needed. It is so sickening to think of the pain these families are going through and why?? If there had been just one man with a weapon, he may have been able to end this quickly.

 

[cemeb4dk]

Airplanes have Air Marshals, school need Armed School Marshals. I'm at a loss for words, and my thoughts and prayers go out to those families. My faith in mankind is at an all time low this morning.

 

[RevTracy]

Airplanes have Air Marshals, school need Armed School Marshals. I'm at a loss for words, and my thoughts and prayers go out to those families. My faith in mankind is at an all time low this morning.

I agree...there should be teachers licensed for conceal carry. My daughter's middle school has a police officer (in uniform) assigned to the school all day. Sad, but necessary. Of course the elementary schools don't have that here...but I bet that changes now.

Like you, my faith in my fellow man has dropped even lower than before. As a pastor these things frustrate me to no end...as I try to comfort my flock, while struggling with the same "why" questions they do. My prayers and concern go out to the families.

 

[AZ115]

I would like to just share....I'm broken hearted and almost to the point of crying over this tragedy. My thoughts and prayers to the families and our first responders.

I stand together with my fellow friends, family and community. I have pledged to carry concealed at all times long before this tragedy. Like many, I only wish to have been able to do something, anything to stop this horrific act.

Having faith and those I know best around me make life a beautiful, wonderful thing no mater what happens. God speed!

 

[TStick]

First off, I cannot, nor do I want to even try to imagine what the parents there are going through - those who have lost children, and those who haven't. My prayers will extend to all of those, the first responders who have to go through this, and those who are responsible for making calls to those who have lost their children. While I am at it, I'm going to pray for the children who saw this happening.

I don't think that being a teacher should come with the requirement of having a concealed weapon; but I also don't think "no-gun" signs on schools make them any safer. I agree that if someone there had a concealed weapon, the results could have been much different.

There would still be crazy people, and there would still be tragedies, but MAYBE they could be at least minimized. I realize that it still wouldn't be much comfort for the first persons family, but active shooters now know where to go to inflict as much pain as possible with as little resistance as possible; the signs point them there.

Sorry if some of this is incoherent, I am a little incoherent right now.

 

[Old cop]

Most educators I know want nothing to do with guns and in fact most believe in strict gun control, thus the choice by this madman of a soft target. The only sensible thing might be to allow those teachers who can legally carry to do so. This is beyond all comprehension.

 

[vytoland]

as long as there are humans on this ball of mud these types of incidents will continue. A lack of discipline in today's society is the problem…...too few states have the death penalty. Humans like manson, speck, dahmer, gacy, etc are kept fed, warm and healthy at taxpayer expense for years. WHY??

lesser crimes are just ignored or given a pass/slap on the wrist.

until we realize that, when you mess up you can expect to get your booty smacked hard and that all life is NOT sacred , what happened here WILL continue and grieving after the fact is of little use.

 

[cmort666]

Nah, can't have victims shooting back.

That would only "escalate the violence" and surrender the "moral high ground"...

 

[novalty]

You know the ones that pushed for Connecticut's "2006-R-0658 POSSESSION OF WEAPON ON SCHOOL GROUNDS" will now be pushing to destroy all firearms, since their law didn't work.

Guess the shooter didn't read "...possessing a firearm or deadly weapon on school grounds is a class D felony, punishable by up to five years imprisonment, a $5,000 fine, or both. A person is guilty of this crime when, knowing they are not licensed or privileged to do so, a person possesses the weapon (1) in or on public or private elementary or secondary school property"

 

[66snub]

I was at my Daughter's school today (2nd grader), as they were having a party for good behavior while in class. This was at around 9 am eastern, and I kept thinking to myself, "I'm glad I'm here today." I always carry while off duty, and we train in active shooter scenarios pretty regularly. I just wish that someone could have been at that school, with the equipment needed to shut that ******* down. I salute the bravery of the faculty and staff there, and could not imagine how hard it was for them. I will be praying for them, as well as the families of the lost.

 

[Spininprop]

I would carry or sign up for Marshall "duty." Most schools around here ( I'm in school administration) do not have a resource officer as LEO are called that are assigned to schools. They cost to much money as the schools typically pay for the staff member and all associated benefits.

Most educators I know want nothing to do with guns and in fact most believe in strict gun control, thus the choice by this madman of a soft target. The only sensible thing might be to allow those teachers who can legally carry to do so. This is beyond all comprehension.

 

[mc5aw]

Just my opinion...but I think that part of being a teacher should be training in concealed carry and being proficient using a weapon.

I was a middle school teacher in the NYS public school system in upstate NY. No less than 80% of the teachers I worked with were incompetent in teaching their respective academic areas, evidenced by the district's consistent annual state rating as a "school in need". No less than 80% ... that's a conservative % from my experience. I would not have trusted a single staff member in my building to be trained with a firearm ... most of my co-workers were incapable of independently crafting and presenting cohesive lesson plans that resulted in student learning as part of their job duties. Taking lousy teachers and giving them firearms training? Forget it.

 

[old curmudgeon]

Most educators I know want nothing to do with guns and in fact most believe in strict gun control, thus the choice by this madman of a soft target. The only sensible thing might be to allow those teachers who can legally carry to do so. This is beyond all comprehension.

Some time ago, I read that there has never been and incident such as this in the schools in Israel.

In spite of the fact that they are hated by every neighbouring country.

The reason: They have retired citizens armed to the teeth as guards.

As I recall, they are volunteers

But we can't have that in our schools. Someone might get shot.

Hannity had a caller tonight that got him thinking. His suggestion was that schools get retired police officers to serve, well armed of course.

I don't know whether a guard with a side arm could have stopped this or not, but one armed with an automatic weapon, dressed in a bullet proof vest probably could have.

But the history of these nuts is that they have never attacked a school or shopping center that was properly protected with well armed guards.

They always pick a soft target, which is odd since they all have a death wish and kill themselves.

But psychoanalysing them is a waste of time. If armed guards cause them to choose another target, we should go for it.

 

[robertrwalsh]

You are inserting logic into an emotional issue. A great many people have trouble with the notion of personal responsibility. Therefore the shooting isn't responsible for the carnage, the instrument is. He could have killed just as many with a machete or a claw hammer as there was nobody there to stop him. There are about 325 million people in this country. Some of them are raving mad. Some of them will turn violent. It is not illegal in this country to be crazy. You can't do anything about crazy people until they do something dangerous. This guy was 20 years old and therefore broke a bunch of laws already being illegally in possession of the handguns he used. Does anybody really think that he would have been worried about breaking a few more laws? It's absurd, but it doesn't matter. The liberals will want to "do something" and what they do is try to get laws passed that limit personal freedom and ignore personal responsibility. That is where their heads are at.

 

[Sebago Son]

Even the most closed societies have problems with mass attack violence.

There was also a horrendous knife attack in a school in China today. 22 children were slashed.

Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China - Courant.com

Clearly, the current measures are not working and we need a more aggressive stance in defense....

 

[JJEH]

Horrible tragedy...

 

[gdnagle]

Most educators I know want nothing to do with guns and in fact most believe in strict gun control, thus the choice by this madman of a soft target. The only sensible thing might be to allow those teachers who can legally carry to do so. This is beyond all comprehension.

Here in WV the school is on lockdown when classes begin. I thought this was the norm everywhere. They have a buzzer and camera to get in once school begins I don't think they use it as I have gone to my grandchildrens school pushed the buzzer and buzzed right in. If this was the case there how did this person get in carring a AR as the news says he had or were they lax on their protocal or don't they lockdown during school hours? Prayers to all involved espicialy the little one that witnessed this teriable action and will remember it the rest of their life and the families of the unfortunate.

 

[Steve in Vermont]

I was a middle school teacher in the NYS public school system in upstate NY. No less than 80% of the teachers I worked with were incompetent in teaching their respective academic areas, evidenced by the district's consistent annual state rating as a "school in need". No less than 80% ... that's a conservative % from my experience. I would not have trusted a single staff member in my building to be trained with a firearm ... most of my co-workers were incapable of independently crafting and presenting cohesive lesson plans that resulted in student learning as part of their job duties. Taking lousy teachers and giving them firearms training? Forget it.

I almost wrote the same thing but decided against it, until I read your post. I know several teachers and wouldn't feel comfortable around them if they were armed. I feel they would be at risk for an AD anytime they tried to load or unload their gun, let alone actually trying to shoot it. And I don't know any teacher who wants to do so. We have over 98,000 public schools, of which 67,000 are elementary. I can't imagine trying to post a LEO in each of them. And even if we did, a shooter dedicated to mass killing would just shoot the officer first. And if it isn't a school it will be a theater or mall (we've seen both lately).Like drunk driving and illegal drugs, I don't believe there is an "answer" to this problem either (just "responses", some of which are better than others).

 

[offduty]

Well like some have said,,I am lost for words. I agree with all that all of you have said. I can't say enough how my heart goes out to all the families involved.......I just can't image. Man I don't know what else to say other than something has got to be figured out. I will continue to carry every day hoping I don't need it.

 

[Sebago Son]

Here in WV the school is on lockdown when classes begin. I thought this was the norm everywhere.

In this case, the school in CT had just PUBLICALLY announced a new set of safety protocols which included a lock down after 9:30 AM. Reports are that the shooter Lanza arrived at 9:15.