Weird Power Outage

Tom S.

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I'm used to power outages, which usually are measured in hours at the worst, but last night I lost half my power. In other words, half of my house as well as half of 8 of my neighbor's homes lost power. The local news is saying there are over 432 thousand people in the area without power, so the prospect of the local utility company coming out to fix our problem is probably several days to a week away.

Effected portions of my house included my furnace, refrigerator, several lights and my computer/modem. Having one leg of power doesn't warrant digging out the generator and spending the money for gas to run it, IMHO. My work around was to move my breakers around to the hot leg of the panel so the needed items now have power. Part of this breaker swap means my dog will have to do his business in the dark, as the outside lights were one of the victims sacrificed to restore my cable modem. Maybe I'll give him a flashlight. :D

Over the time I have lived here, more than 40 years, I have seen to really weird electrical problems. One New Year's day saw a ice laden tree split in half and rip the wires off my house. Climbing an ice covered roof to reattach live lines is not for the feint hearted nor inexperienced homeowner. I was neither and wearing insulated gloves and salting the roof around the electrical header, I reattached the power lines. A month later, Edison came out to do the repair. The guys looked it over, told me "Good Job" and went on their way. A few years ago, on a sunny summer day, our neighborhood lost the neutral connection. That weird occurrence meant 120 volt items worked but not 240 volt such as air conditioners and electric stoves/driers/water heaters. That one had the utility boys stumped for a while and I never did find out the exact cause.

Then we had the Great Blackout of 2003 where 50 million people in SE Michigan, 7 other states and Canada lost power for as long as three days. All caused by a tree limb touching power lines and causing a short.

What's your favorite or worse power loss story?
 
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The only time I had a similar experience was when one of the two hot wires came loose from my meter. Some circuits in my house were live, others were dead. It had nothing to do with a neighborhood general power failure.
 
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'What's your favorite or worse power loss story? '


worse? i went through the 2003 outage you mentioned and used up most or all of those 3 days. the best i can say about it is that it was during the summer.
going through that in below freezing temps in the middle of winter would have been tough to deal with.

favorite? don't have one.
 
The ice storm of 2008. Lost power for 8 days. Had a generator but it decided to stop making electricity on the second day. It would run but no juice output. Phone was still working so I called around to find a generator. No such luck. I decided to take the generator apart...by flashlight. I found a field wire had come unsoldered from the commutator. Just needed to be resoldered. Unfortunately NO electricity to run the soldering gun. So I took my oxy/acetelyne torch and used a very old soldering iron that was designed to be heated by an external source. It had a very large tip....but if I was careful...it should would work. After a quite a few attempts... the wire stuck to the commutator plate. I reassembled the generator and gave it a try. It worked! I got the heat up in the house and then shuffled the generator to the shop and ran the heat there and would switch back every 12 hrs or so.For 8 days. I fully expected the generator to stop working after my Macgyver repair. To this day that generator still works. I have 4 other generators now,one is diesel.
 
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Christmas Eve 2003, Central, Ohio had an Ice storm. One of my 80+ year old Maple trees took out the lines to the house. They were on the ground and still live! Thet did something to themselves to make every light bulb in the house explode, Fry the stove and fridge and ruin every piece of electronics in the house.

I couldn't get anyone to disconnect the hot lines on the ground. Finally I got the Volunteer Fire Department to send a truck and they waded through hup deep water in the basement to flip the main Breaker. (The wires were all around the meter, or I would have pulled it.)

Got down to -3 with -20 chill factor that night. All the adult "Children" stayed with friends or grandma!

This is no big deal/Stuff happens. But then it gets weird. After 8 days of no power the Electric company restores the neighborhood's power but not mine. So I call AEP's 800 number hotline and noting happened. On Day 9I call and they say I'm fixed. No I'm not. OK we'll get you tomorrow. Day 10 exact same thing! Day 11, same! I'm talking to a dispatcher in Illinois, and see says: The ticket has power on written across the face!

Well, I'm standing in my frozen living room in the dark!!! Who says the power is on?

The emergency Line Crew from Kentucky!

I say, There are two roads in this area about 4 miles apart with similar names. I live on Center Village Rd., I bet they keep going to Central Collage Rd.!

She said she would foreword that to a supervisor!

I had been without power for 11 1/2 days, a new & still standing personal record. The subzero nights we stayed at a very nice Hotel the mid 20s night I stayed home and fed the woodstove and slept by the fire.

State Farm Insurance Disaster Team go me a day or two later and authorize all the replacements except the stove and refrigerator. They needed a certified repairman to condemn them. The fridge was actually repaired the next day. The Oven needed a new Clock/Oven Control, the part was out of stock. ONE MONTH went by and the replacement part came in sort of. All the replacement parts were the wrong part in the right box- NATIONWIDE! State Farm the otherized a new stove. The old one repair was paid for, so when the part finally came in 6 months later, my Mother-in-Law got the repaired 1 year old stove!

When the power was out, on mid-20 and above days the woodstove kept the downstairs warm. We used a 20 pound propane cylinder with a Coleman Light and two burner camp stove to cook and clean-up with. We went to the gym and got showers every day, and she took laundry to her mom's where slept every night.

Power outages and the house freezing were kind of common for us, so I had the plumbing set up to drain easy. I did not get a single burst pipe.

Ivan

Since we moved to the condo, the longest power outage was 9 hours, Easy-Peezy!
 
The huge August 14, 2003 northeast blackout was weird to me because of the extended severe brownout that preceded it on Long Island where I lived. The brownout seemed to last a couple of minutes, with the incandescent light bulbs putting out a weird sepia colored illumination.
When power finally got restored, we learned an expensive lesson about how power sensitive modern electronics can be, even if they are turned off on standby. We've put all our electronics on Uninterruptible Power Supplies since then.

Photos: 15 Years Since the 2003 Northeast Blackout - The Atlantic

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Happened to me a few times. It was terrible when we just had our last child.. I quickly got an inverter installed in the house. I never worry about outage ever.
 
We had a service/sales meeting after work at our shop. There was a storm or something and it caused single-phasing to the power supply. I think one of the transformers took a hit. The lights were kinda going off & on, dim then bright, etc. A salesman from a parts supplier was asking me why the lights were doing that. (Salesman for a reason.) I pointed up at the transformers and told him there was residual electricity leaking out of them. He actually believed me. Younger guy, and he looked like he was a coke user. So I went with it: "That's why you should make sure to shake the extension cords before you roll them up so you don't get hit by the residual power in them." "Ahhh, that's good to know! Thanks!" My service manager & good friend had to turn his head. His head was red from holding in the laughter! Now & then that story will come up & we get a laugh.
 
My favorite power outage story is when the power went out about 5:30 last night and my new Generac 23KW generator kicked in for the first official outage! [emoji4]

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The above horror stories make me grateful that the worst I've had here was 84 hours a few years ago during an ice storm.

Fortunately I have a modest battery backup system that can run the essential 120v stuff for 4-5 hours - including the condensing boiler, so I had HW for baseboards and washing - then I had my old 6kW Onan diesel genny take over for a couple of hours to recharge the batteries, run the house (and well pump if I wanted a shower, as well as kettle, microwave, etc.) I was especially popular with my neighbours, who came over to have a shower :)

Heating is one big concern if I were to move & rebuild and be required to install a heat pump- they require 240v and can't practically be powered by any battery system we plebs can afford. I have a pellet stove here as well, and would put one in a new place not just because I like the radiant heat, but they can be powered from a battery system in an emergency. I was glad to have it when my boiler sprang a leak last December and I had no heat for 2 1/2 days and it dropped to 12º at night. The house is small, open plan and well insulated and it kept it warm until the plumber could repair the boiler.
 
We've had some weird ones here with all the trees. One year my mother in law was staying with us and just as she got up from her chair on the patio and was walking in the back door the power line tore loose from the pole and slammed into the house right beside her! At least it was during the day in the summer lol
The following summer the toaster caught fire,I grabbed it and just as I tossed it out the back door here comes Angie trying to come in.
She was always calm under pressure (unlike her daughter) I miss her 😂
 
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I posted this two years ago.

"It was a hot, humid, stormy night in the summer of '69. With no air conditioning all the house windows were open. I was sleeping fitfully and heard dad get up and shuffle to the bathroom which was across the hall from my and my brother's bedroom.

We were jolted out of bed by a deafening bang followed by a Wilhelm scream. Dad was at parade rest taking care of business when lightning hit the downspout next to the bathroom window. It blew out the fuse for the upstairs and caught the bathroom curtain on fire.

Dad pulled the curtain down and threw it in the tub. Mom handed me a flashlight and I went downstairs and replaced the fuse in the basement. Mom yelled down for me to bring the mop when I came back upstairs.


Quite the night."
 
Call whatever you want. I was here, I lived it. It helps to be an electrician as opposed to someone who can't put batteries in a flashlight. Been playing with electrons for more than 55 years.
Retired power company Maintenance Foreman . I can filter the BS .
 
I've been in the center of "Hurricane Alley" 43 years. Power been off maybe 5-6 times. Once defrosted my mom's deep freeze back in the '80's, another time overnite. I cooked pasta and shrimp with a pot of coffee another time. 43 years and maybe 48 hours total outage. Underground utilities is the key. Joe
 
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Mine was the Great Texas Power Grid Failure of 2021. Texas' vaunted, free-market, not-connected-to-the-rest-of-the-US system, failed miserably. The geniuses that ran and supervised the system figured that it was OK to maintain it to meet only best-case scenario standards. When a massive, worst-case ice storm and below-zero temperatures hit most of the state, the grid had to go to rotating blackouts for three days to prevent its total collapse. Hundreds of Texans died of hypothermia in their own homes, as some parts of the state had no power for those three days. We were lucky, as we had power 30 minutes out of every hour. The exception was the second and coldest night (minus 6 degrees), where we had no power for three hours. The temperature in our bedroom was 40 degrees. Fortunately, our living room's gas fireplace worked continuously during all of this, so we spent most of those days bundled up huddling in front of it.

Texas government officials were outraged and promised to take drastic action. Their solution was to slap a surcharge on the power bills of Texas consumers so they could underwrite the expenses that the power companies would have in properly winterizing their systems. Heaven forbid that the power companies' stockholders should have to bear any of these costs. An example of Corporate Socialism at its finest!

My solution is this:

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A 20 KW Cummins.
 

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I can only guess how the power company has your street wired so that only half the house goes out. Did they increased the capacity of each home by giving them two separate feeds and that the breaker panel has two halves each with one feed? Lose one feed, and half the house is out.

The bit in the OP I really cannot understand is "swapping the breakers" to get what you need. I don't think the panel on this house (built 1994) lets you do that.
 
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Mine was the Great Texas Power Grid Failure of 2021. Texas vaunted, free-market, not-connected-to-the-rest-of-the-US system, failed miserably. The geniuses that ran and supervised the system figured that it was OK to maintain it to meet best-case scenario standards. When a massive, worst-case ice storm and below-zero temperatures hit most of the state, the grid had to go to rotating blackouts for three days to prevent its total collapse. Hundreds of Texans died of hypothermia in their own homes, as some parts of the state had no power for those three days. We were lucky, as we had power 30 minutes out of every hour. The exception was the second and coldest night (minus 6 degrees), where we had no power for three hours. The temperature in our bedroom was 40 degrees. Fortunately, our living room's gas fireplace worked continuously during all of this, so we spent most of those days bundled up huddling in front of it.

Texas government officials were outraged and promised to take drastic action. Their solution was to slap a surcharge on the power bills of Texas consumers so they could underwrite the expenses that the power companies would have in properly winterizing their systems. Heaven forbid that the power companies' stockholders should have to bear any of these costs. An example of Corporate Socialism at its finest!

My solution is this:

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A 20 KW Cummins.


Not sure what was connected to our part of the grid that was not allowed to go without power because we never lost power during that whole episode. We live between Houston and Sugar Land.


We did go without power for about a week after one of the hurricanes. It was not a particularly bad one either, for wind and rain. Luckily it was in early September and the temps stayed below 90 for most of the week. We and the neighbors all fed each other on the stuff in our freezers for a few days. Thanks to a Old Smokey and a Coleman stove there was no issues with cooking.


Have given thought to a Generac system and maybe we will somewhere down the line. Some foundation work is next on our home upkeep list.
 
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