WELL THE STINKY STUFF JUST HIT THE AIR CIRCULATION DEVICE IN THE MIDDLE EAST

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I am specifically concerned about our troops at al Asad, Iraq, Union III, Baghdad, and Nineweh Province, Iraq, and at US Embassy, Baghdad. All are within easy mortar, 107 & 240mm rocket, and complex attack range of Iranian proxies (Privately Mobilized Forces or PMFs, armed and well-trained since 2014) and within easy range of small ballistic missiles.

Especially since Iranian C&C is badly disrupted. It doesn't take too much deductive reasoning to realize that even a proxy attack on US forces would likely trigger US involvement towards Iran itself which would be a problem the Iranians do not need at this point, but deductive reasoning isn't high on the list of prerequisites to become a fanatic militant in a regional Iranian proxy.
 
Watching and reading the various news sources I find it interesting that
the Israelis started a gig they can't finish. Information indicates that one,
or more, of USA's bunker bombs will end the threat.
I think BB knew this and expected The USA to jump in with both feet.
 
Before getting all happy about bombing Iran, recall that it shares a border and Islam (albeit more Sunn'i than Shi'a) with Pakistan. You remember Pakistan, correct? Where Osama bin Laden lived for a decade 2 miles from their military academy? Pakistan has 150 to 200 deliverable nukes. One stupid DC statement about a 'crusade' or in any way suggesting the US was bombing Iran because it is a Muslim country or even that Iran 'deserves it' because of Islamic leadership and all bets are off.

"Me against my brother; me and my brother against our cousins; me, my brother, and my cousins against the outsider." - Bedouin saying widely distributed in Islam since the 1960s.

The troubles and hatreds of the region (Middle East, South Asia, northern Africa) are not ever going to be resolved by us. Ever.

Iraq, 2018/2019 as a duty station
Somalia, 2023/2024 as a duty station
Incidental/TDY in a number of regional countries 2018-2024.
 
Reeking irrelevancies in 2025. More Facebook drivel.............
Sure. I guess 34 sailors killed and 171 wounded by three separate attacks from 1357 hours to 1530 hours by rockets, 30mm cannonfire, napalm, torpedoes, and 50 caliber machine guns should just be 'bygones,' especially since the IDF admitted they were wrong and made $3 million in reparations. In 1980 (a mere 13 years later).

We didn't start this and shouldn't finish it for those who did. I am SURE the Mossad knew about the nuclear facilities 300 feet underground (certainly the IAEA did); just as surely the IDF knew before the war they had no ordnance to reach the facilities. And they knew before their war who does have such ordnance.
 
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A few of these would take care of him….
Forgotten about this from January 17?

BEIRUT — Months after the initial announcement, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed today the long-awaited Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty.

The agreement, inked in a ceremony at the Kremlin, "covers all spheres, including defense, counter-terrorism, energy, finance, transport, industry, agriculture, culture, science and engineering," according to Russian news agency TASS. https://breakingdefense.com/2025/01/russia-signs-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-with-iran/
 
Or from Israel's Gaza playbook.
Remember in "02 and '03 when the Japanese government was outraged by terrorists beheading Japanese journalists? Maybe just karma taking a bite...

The Hundred Head Contest: Reassessing the Nanjing Massacre

By Suzuki Chieko

Translation by James Orr

Japan Focus introduction: In late 1937, a Tokyo newspaper reported on a "hundred head contest" in which two Japanese imperial army officers competed to see who could lop off one hundred Chinese heads first during the campaign to take the Chinese capital city of Nanjing. The contest is symbolic of the perversion and loss of military discipline during the Japanese capture and occupation of the city that has come to be known variously as the Nanjing Massacre, the Rape of Nanjing, or simply the Nanjing Incident.
 
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Watching and reading the various news sources I find it interesting that
the Israelis started a gig they can't finish.
Can't finish?

Or can't finish without using one of their nukes to do the job?

Or taking heavy casualties to fight their way into that complex?

The only thing I find interesting is how Americans have watched president after president, (and two in particular), allow the Mad Mullahs subjugating Iran to continue killing Americans or funding and training their terrorist proxies to do that.

Now some Americans seem to be upset that Israel has acted to take out the nuclear weapon ambitions of the country who chants "Death To The Great Satan", and who killed or wounded thousands of Americans during the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I would want the administration to ask if Israel needs any support in taking nukes out of the Mad Mullah's terrorist toolbox, while we sit safe on the sidelines watching their military take the risks of doing that.
 
We didn't start this and shouldn't finish it for those who did.
When's was our signal to start and finish it after the Mad Mullahs subjugating Iran used their Quds Force and advanced IED technology to kill and maim thousands of Americans in Afghanistan.

All while chanting "Death To The Great Satan"?

"Let bygones by bygones", that's how we should respond?

Does America have a special invulnerability shield that assures us there's no way Iran with a nuclear weapon won't use it on America or give it to terrorists to use on America?

Maybe we should only act after Iran's Mad Mullahs have nuclear weapons and uses them to prove what most suspect: that those hajjis will use nuclear weapons against both Israel and America if they get them?

After all, what's hundreds of dead Americans between two partners in that famous 'nuclear treaty'
 
Forgotten about this from January 17?

BEIRUT — Months after the initial announcement, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed today the long-awaited Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty.

The agreement, inked in a ceremony at the Kremlin, "covers all spheres, including defense, counter-terrorism, energy, finance, transport, industry, agriculture, culture, science and engineering," according to Russian news agency TASS. https://breakingdefense.com/2025/01/russia-signs-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-with-iran/

Dunno if you've seen the news lately, but Russia has its hands full fighting year 3 of a disastrous war they should have won in week 3. If Iran thinks they can get help from Russia, I think they're going to be disappointed- this is a country so desperate that they're buying arms from North Korea.
 
Dunno if you've seen the news lately, but Russia has its hands full fighting year 3 of a disastrous war they should have won in week 3. If Iran thinks they can get help from Russia, I think they're going to be disappointed- this is a country so desperate that they're buying arms from North Korea.
Yes, indeed. My point is that Iran is neither alone nor a pariah without nuclear armed allies.

Russia wants Iran free to keep producing Shahed drones for them, not using drones for defense or offense.
 
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Yes, indeed. My point is that Iran is neither alone nor a pariah without nuclear armed allies.

Russia want Iran free to keep producing Shahed drones for them, not using drones for defense or offense.

Agreed, but Russia will absolutely never go nuclear over Iran and everyone knows it. This is a country in legitimate danger of a ground invasion by Finland, Putin knows he can only push his luck so far before everything collapses around him.

And I apologize for the tone of my earlier post- I'd meant it to be lighthearted, but in reading it again it sounds condescending. No offense intended.
 
Remember in "02 and '03 when the Japanese government was outraged by terrorists beheading Japanese journalists? Maybe just karma taking a bite...

The Hundred Head Contest: Reassessing the Nanjing Massacre

By Suzuki Chieko

Translation by James Orr

Japan Focus introduction: In late 1937, a Tokyo newspaper reported on a "hundred head contest" in which two Japanese imperial army officers competed to see who could lop off one hundred Chinese heads first during the campaign to take the Chinese capital city of Nanjing. The contest is symbolic of the perversion and loss of military discipline during the Japanese capture and occupation of the city that has come to be known variously as the Nanjing Massacre, the Rape of Nanjing, or simply the Nanjing Incident.
On the irrelevance scale of 1 - 10, I would score this a solid 11.
 
On the irrelevance scale of 1 - 10, I would score this a solid 11.
Dunno why that struck me, but it immediately popped in my head. Israel getting upset about one hospital getting hit after they've hit all 36 of Gaza's hospitals with missiles and precision bombs, leaving only 17 even partially functioning, seems pretty whiny. Pretty much like the Japanese govt indignation about beheading of a couple of noncombatants.
 
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Dunno why that struck me, but it immediately popped in my head. Israel getting upset about one hospital getting hit after they've hit all 36 of Gaza's hospitals with missiles and precision bombs, leaving only 17 even partially functioning, seems pretty whiny. Pretty much like the Japanese govt indignation about beheading of a couple of noncombatants.
Morale of the story: Don't build terrorist tunnels and bunkers under hospitals.
 
I am hoping that we do not get involved, but I fear that we will be dragged into this either by being a convenient target or by sticking our noses in ourselves. Since we have already shot down missiles heading to Israel and we obviously supply weapons and intelligence, it looks like we may already have crossed the Rubicon. Waiting and seeing...

I wonder if Americans can even remember the "Sneak" attack by Israel on the USS Liberty in a attempt to get America into THEIR WAR? Perhaps those veterans, the many killed and wounded are now getting their revenge and justice. Fox news is now the anchor of Neocon war hawks just like Iraq. Will they use a Nuke's on Iran against America wishes. It is in their modus Opraendi. They will cause a major attack against US bases resulting in thousands of US Young troops killed, maimed, slaughtered and world war. Our economy will go into the Pitts. But not before gas prices soar like we have never seen. A new recession. A weaker defense against China. No one is even talking about Taiwan now.
Iran is not Iraq. Iran is 5 times the size in land, a population of almost 100 million vs 7 million in Israel.. A mountainous region that will make a conventional war impossible without the slaughter of American Military.

Pray for Peace. President Trump in my humble opinion does not want WAR. But he is surrounded by Neocon and Chicken war hawks.

This is a picture of Israel handiwork. The USS Liberty-They did this once and they will have no problem doing it again.
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June 8, 1967. They admitted fault and finished paying $3 million in reparations in 1980, 13 years later. Thirty-four dead, 171 wounded after two air attacks with rockets, 30mm cannonfire, and napalm, then torpedo attack and strafing fire with 50 caliber machine guns from IDF torpedo boats. Already posted this info on this thread earlier.

I dislike being used. The IDF knew they couldn't destroy Fordow nuke facility before they started this war, in fact since 2009 when it became public. Not our problem.

Israel is the single biggest recipient of US foreign aid and has been since 1949.
 
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I wonder if Americans can even remember the "Sneak" attack by Israel on the USS Liberty in a attempt to get America into THEIR WAR? Perhaps those veterans, the many killed and wounded are now getting their revenge and justice. Fox news is now the anchor of Neocon war hawks just like Iraq. Will they use a Nuke's on Iran against America wishes. It is in their modus Opraendi. They will cause a major attack against US bases resulting in thousands of US Young troops killed, maimed, slaughtered and world war. Our economy will go into the Pitts. But not before gas prices soar like we have never seen. A new recession. A weaker defense against China. No one is even talking about Taiwan now.
Iran is not Iraq. Iran is 5 times the size in land, a population of almost 100 million vs 7 million in Israel.. A mountainous region that will make a conventional war impossible without the slaughter of American Military.

Pray for Peace. President Trump in my humble opinion does not want WAR. But he is surrounded by Neocon and Chicken war hawks.

This is a picture of Israel handiwork. The USS Liberty-They did this once and they will have no problem doing it again.
KovgfNo.png
Even remember? Seriously? I think I can safely say that most of us will never forget! I joined the Navy in 1979 and at the time, it was recent history. I served with a lot of guys who were junior sailors in 1967 and nearing the end of their Naval careers in the early '80s that absolutely hated Israel over that supposed case of mistaken identity and subsequent coverup. I also have a friend and retired co-worker that was a bosun mate on the USS America at the time and helped pull the dead and wounded off the helos sent to the Liberty for evacuation. Sailors talk, and he says it was common knowledge amongst the crew that McNamara purposefully recalled the planes that were going to the defense of the Liberty while the attack was still underway.
June 8, 1967. They admitted fault and finished paying $3 million in reparations in 1980, 13 years later. Thirty-four dead, 171 wounded after two air attacks with rockets, 30mm cannonfire, and napalm, then torpedo attack and strafing fire with 50 caliber machine guns from IDF torpedo boats. Already posted this info on this thread earlier.

I dislike being used. The IDF knew they couldn't destroy Fordow nuke facility before they started this war, in fact since 2009 when it became public. Not our problem.

Israel is the single biggest recipient of US foreign aid and has been since 1949.
So basically, they gave us back $3 million of the $3 billion we gave them that year for slaughtering 34 Americans.

Yeah, don't get me started on the USS Liberty attack.
 
Just as a reminder:

"Israeli pilot to IDF war room: This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Yes, follow orders.

Israeli pilot to IDF war room: But sir, it's an American ship – I can see the flag!

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Never mind; hit it."
 
At about 1700 hrs Pacific Coast Time the Israelis hit a fair number of targets in Iran, including many in Tehran itself. So far we are not involved. The "experts" assert that there will be more than one wave of attacks and Tehran will launch missiles at Israel. The Israeli government has ordered its citizens to stay near to bomb shelters until further notice. With luck we won't get involved, but I suspect that Iran will strike at US assets, and I suspect that if that happens Trump will strike back. Could get interesting.

Iran has been successfully striking US assets with impunity since 1979 when the Islamic Regime seized power, and with deadly results.
 
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