were there 4'' barrel triple locks?

[Sebago Son]

Drawing to a Straight Flush....

I've got the pair...

.44 HE3rd...

THE origional 4" nickel Pre-21....

... but still looking for the 4" Nickel .44 HE1st and .44 HE2... Can somebody deal me in?....

 

[Pontiaker]

Hi
Dick Berg you will just have to settle for a 4 inch Target 1926 one of two known to exist. You know where the other one is.
As far as 4 inch 2nd models target or fixed sight models in my 35 years
of collecting I have not seen one or had the chance to buy one.
Jim Fisher

;~)

Now that is my grail gun for sure! Third model target 4 inch, so awesome!!!!

Though I would take a TR too;~)

 

[Hondo44]

Jim Fisher,Tell me about the hammer on the target tl.Mike

Mid last century famous target revolver smiths like King Gunworks and and later Micro sight modified revolvers for competition including supplying their custom sights and target hammers to S&W and individuals.
Since before Jan. 13, 1950 the Smith factory offered no factory N frame wide spur target hammer option, modified factory hammers were well crafted and popular.

For right handers wide spurs extending to the left and for left handers wide spurs to the right were custom made and referred to as "cockeyed" hammers. A custom hammer widened on both sides was referred to as a "double cockeyed" as shown below:

Hope this helps.

 

[delta-419]

4" Nickle Triplelock

Lee, that is an awsome gun that you have!! Words escape me!

This 4" nickle Triplelock letters as being shipped to New Orleans LA in Nov 1916. Its a project gun with zero finish, previous owner sanded it off!!! An old refinish destoyed the barrel lettering. Mechanical restoration is about complete. I'm looking for somebody to restore the lettering. I love this thread.

 

[bettis1]

Since we're talking about fairly uncommon Triple-Locks, here is a 4" that shipped from the factory as a "Half-Target".

Bob

 

[Hondo44]

This 4" nickle Triplelock letters as being shipped to New Orleans LA in Nov 1916. Its a project gun with zero finish, previous owner sanded it off!!! An old refinish destoyed the barrel lettering. Mechanical restoration is about complete. I'm looking for somebody to restore the lettering. I love this thread.

Gene Williams: Refinishing (re-blue, re-nickel & case hardening; rollmark
recutting) of older S&W guns that the factory doesn't repair any longer. McKinney, Texas Phone: 214-673-5510

Dave Chicoine: Performs repairs on all Tip-Ups, Top-Breaks and Hand-ejectors up to 1920; author of many gunsmithing books.
Phone: 704-8253-0265
e-Mail: [email protected]

 

[handejector]

Lee, How many engraved 4 inch guns have you come across over the years?

Chad Gripp

One. Just one. David Carroll told me one other one is known- a Blue 4" Target!

Found this'n hangin on a wall in Waco

Su Amigo,
Dave

I take it nobody was watchin' it close enough....

Hi
Mike the hammer is MICO Cockeyed from the 20,s or 30.s
The action is as smooth as glass on this old girl.
Jim

Jim,
As I recall, Micro wasn't founded till the 50's by ex King employees.

... but still looking for the 4" Nickel .44 HE1st and .44 HE2... Can somebody deal me in?....

Has ANYBODY yet seen an original 44-2nd?
I've never even heard a credible rumor!

 

[bettis1]

I agree, Lee. I've got a 5" 2nd which is a pretty uncommon animal but never saw a 4". Have you ever asked Supica where he got his info on them?

Bob

 

[handejector]

Neal & Jinks says it.
History says it.

 

[bettis1]

Well,yeah. But Columbus said the world was round-and everybody believed him, too- for awhile!

Bob

 

[bmg60]

Hi
Just a note to let you know Gene Williams does not do Smith & Wesson
refinishing work any more, he is doing 1911,s now.
Jim Fisher

 

[gripper]

There are two 2nd models listed in the data base with 4 inch barrels. Both are listed under Roy Jinks. One gun is listed as as being refinished to nickel and the other just says "no butt swivel", but no other information. I assume he wouldn't enter them into the data base unless they were the real deal. I guess a phone call to him would confirm things.

Chad Gripp

 

[Sebago Son]

My understanding is that there are two 4" Nickle .44HE2's in a certain sometimes member's safe in the Fredericksburg, VA area. I've been chasing them for several years now... so far, I've not seen them but the source is credible. I've purchased half a dozen HE2's and an HE3 from this fellow over the years and he has very, very nice stuff.

 

[rburg]

If anyone is still lusting for a 4" Triple Lock, David Carroll has one listed for sale on his web page. But then if Jim says there were less than 100 made, here's a chance for someone to enter the big time! So how well is your 401k or IRA doing this year? At least you can hold the gun in your hand and smile.

http://www.dcarroll.net/catalog/January 2012 SW Modern Catalog.pdf

 

[wbraswell]

Wow! our Silverback brought out the GOOD stuff. I have to get out of here. Too rich for me, I feel faint.

 

[bettis1]

Found this'n hangin on a wall in Waco

Su Amigo,
Dave

Well, I've just gotten over the shock that Mi Amigo Dave snuck that one right out from under my nose here in my stomping grounds. I'd guess it escaped from the back door at the Ranger Museum in Waco.

For those of you who might be interested, Capt. J. M. Fox was a famous ranger back in the hard decade of about 1910-1920. He was responsible for 140 miles of "The River" in the Big Bend of Texas. That was a lonely and hard land. Frequently, a man's horse and weapons were the only friends to call on when trouble arose.

Unfortunately, those same circumstances still exist today.

Dave, when we figure out how to make these things talk, that would be a good one to start listening to.

Bob

 

[rburg]

This section of the forum has suddenly grown legs. Two really great threads running at the same time, with two of my favorite guns being featured. If we keep this up we won't need a new SCSW4. I'm impressed.

 

[delta-419]

4" Triplelock

I suspect that 25% of the existing 4" TLs reside close to our forum home.

 

[DBWesson]

Jim:
I am glad to know how many were made.
I have through the years acquired twelve 4" T Locks and 4 of them are Nickel.
I think that your box is for a third model not a T Lock.
5 " T Locks are harder to find I only have found six, and two are Nickel.
That is out of 108 T Locks in my collection.
DB

 

[bmg60]

DB
No it,s for a Triple lock if you read Dick Bergs post that where the box came from by way of david carroll
Dick Berg was the owner of it before I got it. I have a couple of 3rd model boxes and they do not look like the one for the triple lock.
The Triple lock boxes is a different color and the card board is thinner
that the 3rd models.

Jim