What ammo shortage?

[cmj8591]

A quick check of Gun Croker shows 365 pages of handgun ammo for sale at astronomical prices. So I guess what this has devolved to is not a shortage of ammo, but a shortage of ammo for sane people. On page one I'm looking at at two 500 round bricks of Winchester standard velocity 22lr going off at $170. I'm sorry, but if you are spending $85 for a brick of 22's, you need to talk to a therapist. I don't care how much money you have. I will sell my guns and buy a bowling ball before I spend that. PT Barnum was wrong. There's not a sucker born every minuet, there's one born every 30 seconds!

End of rant, thanks for reading.

 

[Bozz10mm]

If they weren't able to sell it at those prices, the price would come down. But somebody is buying it.

 

[cmj8591]

If they weren't able to sell it at those prices, the price would come down. But somebody is buying it.

That's economics 101. There were 7 saps, I mean people, who bid on that ammo. In all seriousness, I don't believe that the shooting community is going to support $85 bricks of 22's or $1 a round 223's. Once the end of the world, absolutely have to have it, "This new gun sure is expensive to shoot!" people are satisfied, the prices will go back to where they were. I think that will be soon. In the mean time, this has become like watching a train wreck.

 

[PHS327]

A quick check of Gun Croker shows 365 pages of handgun ammo for sale at astronomical prices. So I guess what this has devolved to is not a shortage of ammo, but a shortage of ammo for sane people. On page one I'm looking at at two 500 round bricks of Winchester standard velocity 22lr going off at $170. I'm sorry, but if you are spending $85 for a brick of 22's, you need to talk to a therapist. I don't care how much money you have. I will sell my guns and buy a bowling ball before I spend that. PT Barnum was wrong. There's not a sucker born every minuet, there's one born every 30 seconds!

End of rant, thanks for reading.

I remember seeing a 500 round brick at a gun show during the last shortage. The seller was asking $100. He wasn't getting it, at least not while I was there. I'm pretty sure he still had the same brick at the next show I attended.

 

[PPS1980]

Much of that ammo is being recycled by end users and not coming from traditional retail outlets. Lots of hoarders have seen an opportunity. New ammo from the factory is still EXTREMELY hard to come by according to every single LGS that I have spoken with in the past few months.

 

[tops]

For defense I had rather have a .22 than a bowling ball and if hungry a brick of .22s will kill more animals than a bowling ball. That's my thinking but maybe you can throw a bowling ball better than I can. Larry

 

[686-380]

I regard this occasional, recurring phenomenon with sadness. Many of these people probably voted for gun control in previous years and are pretty clueless. I have seen them, over the decades, waiting patiently in line at LGS's, typically clutching a box of FMJ ammunition. The little old ladys make me particularly sad. It's one time and place, where I feel the weight of political vagaries at work.

 

[wood714]

Someone from GA. on the Harley forum posted this a couple weeks ago.

Said he went shopping for 45 ACP.

Could be a pic he got off the net, or could be real. Claims to have a few full auto's.

 

[cmj8591]

For defense I had rather have a .22 than a bowling ball and if hungry a brick of .22s will kill more animals than a bowling ball. That's my thinking but maybe you can throw a bowling ball better than I can. Larry

You've never seen me bowl!!

 

[Hotrodcorvette1976]

People are crazy. I just sold 2k rounds of Pmc .223 for $1350. Hey, if people wanna pay double what its worth, ill sell with a smile on my face.

 

[MTC(SS)Ret]

just ten days ago I was able to buy two bricks (1000 rounds total) of Aguila Super Extra 40gr CPSP from a major online retailer for a total of $60. Last month I found 100 round boxes of CCI Mini-mag for $11, also a major online store.
I use Ammoseek.com as a resource to search for good deals since my LGS's don't have it or they have outrageous prices.

 

[tops]

Someone from GA. on the Harley forum posted this a couple weeks ago.

Said he went shopping for 45 ACP.

Could be a pic he got off the net, or could be real. Claims to have a few full auto's.

From what I see on the internet there is plenty of .45 ACP for sale. It just takes a little more money too purchase it than it did a year ago and may need to buy from several sources. Larry

 

[Jack Flash]

A quick check of Gun Croker shows 365 pages of handgun ammo for sale at astronomical prices. ... On page one I'm looking at at two 500 round bricks of Winchester standard velocity 22lr going off at $170. I'm sorry, but if you are spending $85 for a brick of 22's, you need to talk to a therapist. ...

To a lot of newcomers, 17 cents a round probably doesn't sound like a lot.

After the last shortage of .22 LR, I stocked up. I am not a flipper, but if offered $1 / round, I might be tempted to let a few bricks go. (Note that I said "might" I am still not a flipper.)
However, I wouldn't cross the street to sell it for 17 cents / round.

 

[ZGrand]

Someone from GA. on the Harley forum posted this a couple weeks ago.

Said he went shopping for 45 ACP.

Could be a pic he got off the net, or could be real. Claims to have a few full auto's.

Seems like if he could afford all that ammo (and a Harley), he could afford to have that bed liner re-sprayed.....

 

[Rudi]

I was at our indoor range a few days back. They had 9mm for $35 for a 50rd. box. No thanks.

 

[CH4]

FWIW, last week I bought 2 bricks of 500 Aguila super extra at Sportsman's Warehouse for $26.99 less 5% for the vet discount. I've seen it at TN gun shows for $60 to $70 a brick. The most I've paid is $36 and that was pushing my limit for 22lr.

 

[tops]

Seems like if he could afford all that ammo (and a Harley), he could afford to have that bed liner re-sprayed.....

It depends upon ones priority. I am led to believe his #1 priority is ammo. I once knew a very good skeet shooter that had high dollar top of the line shotgun and drove a piece of junk truck and his house wasn't much better. It just depends on what is important in a persons life. Larry

 

[PPCSHOOTER]

A quick check of Gun Croker shows 365 pages of handgun ammo for sale at astronomical prices. So I guess what this has devolved to is not a shortage of ammo, but a shortage of ammo for sane people. On page one I'm looking at at two 500 round bricks of Winchester standard velocity 22lr going off at $170. I'm sorry, but if you are spending $85 for a brick of 22's, you need to talk to a therapist. I don't care how much money you have. I will sell my guns and buy a bowling ball before I spend that. PT Barnum was wrong. There's not a sucker born every minuet, there's one born every 30 seconds!

End of rant, thanks for reading.

I HAVE ROUTINELY SPENT $100 A BRICK (OR MORE) FOR SV .22 AMMO. BUT IT'S FOR LAPUA OR ELEY. THAT IS SHOT THRU MATCH GUNS. WHICH NEVER SEE A BRUSH IN THE BORE. JP

 

[fmflorida]

Ammo is hard to get...and will only get harder to get due to one reason.....Lead.

In 2012 the EPA essentially shutdown all lead processing in the US....

So what happens? We collect all our lead in the US, load it on a ship.....and gets sent to China...

China processes it and sells it back to ammo makers in order for them to make their ammo.

Right now we arent exporting or importing anything to China...thus lead isnt being processed thus ammo isnt being made.....

While most companies have a healthy supply of lead on hand......that supply dries up fast when 100M+ people are trying to buy 1K rounds at a time.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

The definition of fair price is the price a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to accept. There are no other legitimate considerations.

About 5-1/2 years ago we purchased a home in a HOA-run "patio home" community, one of 20 very similar homes on a private cul-de-sac with all exterior maintenance, landscaping care, snow removal done by the HOA (sounded like a good way to ease into retirement). At that time the appraisal on our home (very similar to all the others) was $200K. Since then 5 of the others have gone on the market, and all have sold in less than 30 days, mostly retired folks with cash to buy what they want. Appraised values have risen over those years to about $245-250K, but the last two went into bidding wars and sold for $260-270K because of very strong demand for this particular community.

If we were to sell our home today, why would we calmly accept the $245K appraised value while there are multiple buyers willing to pay $15-25K more? We would be foolish to do so! We have it, they want it, and they are willing to pay a premium to obtain what they want.

Again, a fair price is what the buyer is willing to pay and the seller is willing to accept. Makes no difference whether we are talking about ammunition, gold, antique cars, or real estate.