What came with a Model 1 1/2 when new ?

[F75gunslinger]

I put some money down on that 1 1/2 and will pick it up in a couple of weeks. Been thinking about making a case for it, and wondered what came with them when they were sold ? Did they have any type of cleaning implements or tools that they would have come with ? I know they had a box as I've seen a few that were for sale on GB that had one. But if I'm making a case I could use a couple more things to set it up for to "fill" it. Any help is appreciated...

 

[mmaher94087]

The case came from a distributor not Smith & Wesson so possible items could be a cleaning rod, twisted wire, bristle, bore brush and an oiler. Cartridge block, patch box and a rectangular cartridge box holder are often encountered.

 

[glowe]

Which gun are you buying, a Model 1 1/2 or a 32 Single Action? I guess I missed the picture. The standard means of delivery for both were pasteboard boxes with maybe a cleaning brush inside. Instructions were printed on the inside of the box lid.

The factory did supply wood cased guns, but do not think they made any, so contracted with suppliers is my guess. My feeling is that most presentation cases found were supplied by the distributors, meaning not factory original as Mike stated. All I have seen for these pocket revolvers were quite plain with few extras, but often an ammo block found with the tip-ups.

The images below are what I would consider factory supplied case for a 32 SA and distributor "French" style case for a Model 1 1/2. Third image is a distributor supplied gutta-percha style case for a short barreled Model 1 1/2.

 

[glowe]

Ah, just found your images on another thread. I always say that the Model 1 1/2 name used to describe a 32 SA is often confusing and this is another instance where it was just that without images or reference.

 

[22/32 JDF]

Which gun are you buying, a Model 1 1/2 or a 32 Single Action? I guess I missed the picture. The standard means of delivery for both were pasteboard boxes with maybe a cleaning brush inside. Instructions were printed on the inside of the box lid.

The factory did supply wood cased guns, but do not think they made any, so contracted with suppliers is my guess. My feeling is that most presentation cases found were supplied by the distributors, meaning not factory original as Mike stated. All I have seen for these pocket revolvers were quite plain with few extras, but often an ammo block found with the tip-ups.





The images below are what I would consider factory supplied case for a 32 SA and distributor "French" style case for a Model 1 1/2. Third image is a distributor supplied gutta-percha style case for a short barreled Model 1 1/2.

Gary In your first picture there is a small silver oiler. Was that a oiler that could have come from S&W ?? I also have one and think it could go in with my S&W #1 second mod. Please advise I have never seen one other then yours and mine. 22/32 JDF

 

[mm93]

If you're making a custom display box, then what "came" with a #1 1/2 wont be as important as what would be neat to have in the box.
I have built a number of custom cases for both handguns and long guns, and I always try to find period tools and accessories to fit into the boxes. What size the box will be can determine what you'll add. Often an area for either a box of period ammo, or individual cartridges is nice. A recess for cleaning rod, and various period tips is also nice. If you make it a bit larger, then tolls like old Ideal tong tools for reloading are great too. And a period mold for casting bullets.
I find the case size dictates whether it's just ammo and cleaning tools, or large enough for a complete shooter's kit. The larger, more complete kits seem to get more thumbs up, and more interest when I display them. But make sure all the tools are period correct, or it doesn't work.
And anytime I can find and purchase a nice old box or case, I buy them! It saves a ton of time making them, plus a old case or wooden box with some age on it already looks even more correct when I'm done configuring the interior.

 

[F75gunslinger]

Which gun are you buying, a Model 1 1/2 or a 32 Single Action?

Sorry about that. Yeah, it would be a .32 single action. Just thought it would be a neat project, and wondered what,if any,tools came with the gun for a start.I figured an oiler would be good, and some type of brush. Just a couple things to fill out around the gun in the box and make it more period correct.

The case came from a distributor not Smith & Wesson so possible items could be a cleaning rod, twisted wire, bristle, bore brush and an oiler. Cartridge block, patch box and a rectangular cartridge box holder are often encountered.

I figured a case would have been an item added later or at a premium from another company, just wanted to make sure that if there were any tools that might have came with the gun that I had something similar in it as a start.

 

[glowe]

Gary In your first picture there is a small silver oiler. Was that a oiler that could have come from S&W ?? . . .

I cannot say for certain if that was a S&W oiler or not. It really does not fit the spot in the case, so am thinking it was added later. The same oiler came in a Model 1891 Single Action distributor case, so maybe it was distributor supplied. The oilers I am familiar with in most early S&W cases was a small round silver or nickel plated metal container with a screw off top attached to a dipper for lubricating. You will find lots of different oilers in cases, so they all cannot be from the factory.

I think less is better. These cases were always compact and designed to hold the gun without much extra space. What areas were left over got some nick-nacks.

 

[22/32 JDF]

Thank you Gary

 

[F75gunslinger]

Thank you Glowe and everyone else for all the suggestions and help...it may be awhile before this idea comes about but I wanted to start looking for the different pieces to add to it as a couple may take a bit to find...

 

[mm93]

A set of early S&W loading tools are always a cool item to add, but extremely tough to find! I looked a long time to find a set, and when I did it wasn't a caliber I wanted. They're .32 S&W, but I figured I'd rather have any set, than to not have a set.
I don't even have a S&W in the caliber, but maybe I'll buy one just to put together in a case with these cool tools.

 

[Jaxenro]

I've been looking for a set of old reloading tools in 32 S&W not easy to find

 

[mm93]

I've been looking for a set of old reloading tools in 32 S&W not easy to find

Finding them in ANY caliber is tough! If one wants a set, I've found you probably better buy whatever caliber you find. Especially if you find a complete set! I've come across ball seaters, or individual pieces and parts. But when I found this set complete, it was the only complete set I'd seen for sale in decades.

I'm still looking for a similar set for a Marlin Ballard single shot, and would take any caliber I found there too! Last set I saw was at the Denver show years ago, and it was $3,000. Too rich for my blood.