What causes this?

[handejector]

Type A personalities- ya gotta love 'em......
I have one also.

That means it will work like this-
anyone can express an opinion on the topic at hand.
Then, anyone can agree/disagree with the opinion on the topic at hand, in a calm, adult manner, leaving out personal remarks.

Then, if it gets personal, with the Type A thing becoming the topic at hand, I can display MY Type A personality.
That is done with the points system for infractions.
3 points= 3days off
5 points= 5 days off
more than 5 points= an uncertain future

Options:
Get along.
Ignore what you don't like/agree with.
Put members on your "Ignore List"
Deal with me.

Questions, though there should be few if this is as plain as I intend it to be, can be directed to me via PM. I am too busy to watch this section today.

 

[Skip Sackett]

pm sent!

 

[Hoptob]

Hi Skip,

Awhile it was Been busy...

As you said I'll need 825 fps plus some margin to safely pass chrono. Bob is using close to max Hodgdon load for the bullet and gets 815 fps from a 6.5-incher. With a 4-incher I'll have to go quite a bit over max and that's not a good idea for a high volume competition load. TG serves me well in 9mm and 357mag but it probably isn't best powder to make major in 45acp revolver. Other shooters use Clays and N320. Having no experience in this caliber, I'll do a smart thing and listen to those who does.

Mike

 

[semperfi71]

I have been loading the .45 Long Colt since 1973. Your .45 AR's is a common symptom of straight cased pistol cases with light to medium, and sometimes even fullhouse loads. A different powder may alleviate the occurance or eliminate it.

I would not worry. Find an accurate load and don't worry about the dirty brass, just clean it longer than the other brass.

Good luck.

 

[Skip Sackett]

No experience with N320

Hi Skip,

Awhile it was Been busy...

As you said I'll need 825 fps plus some margin to safely pass chrono. Bob is using close to max Hodgdon load for the bullet and gets 815 fps from a 6.5-incher. With a 4-incher I'll have to go quite a bit over max and that's not a good idea for a high volume competition load. TG serves me well in 9mm and 357mag but it probably isn't best powder to make major in 45acp revolver. Other shooters use Clays and N320. Having no experience in this caliber, I'll do a smart thing and listen to those who does.

Mike

Mike,
No experience with N320, some with N340 and while I don't like Clays for automatic rounds, I would use it in a revolver.
It has a really steep pressure spike though and a little over makes a big change. No thanks!

If it were me, and you should thank God everyday that you live that you aren't me, I would (and do) use two powder for this type of load. Bullseye, 4.7gr(could go higher) @ 858fps from M625JM and AA#2(5gr) but with a 230gr Ranier that gave 870fps. Remember though, that was a heavier bullet so the charge may have to be increased to get that velocity from a lighter one.

One thing to remember, a single action hammer fall is heavier than a double action one. Remember your mechanical engineering side? It seems odd but I have proven it over and over again with double action revolvers. You get more velocity from a single action hammer fall than a double action one. Take that 4" M625 to the range with your chronograph and tell me your results. It isn't much, but it is more. Mine was about 20fps more on average. That could mean a lot at a match where they check ammo. If you get to shoot your own gun for their testing, remember to shoot your rounds single action unless instructed otherwise.

As far as the 45ACP "N" frame goes though, you are going to have fun with it. Most of my experimentation with mine has been with heavier lead bullets. I have a couple of loads that get over 1100fps from that 4" tube and the bullets are over 240gr! As accurate as can be.

At any rate, have fun my friend and keep us up to date with the shooting! If you need more loads, pm me and I will go to LoadData.com and get whatever you need. Don't you have HS-6 too? That would be a powder I would think of using for those kinds of loads.

Mild to wild with this firearm!

 

[Skip Sackett]

I'm just kidding!

Lee,

Explain how this "point" system works.

Is it like some do their kids? 1.................2....................3...............I'm gonna spank you! Like that?

'Cause if it does, and I could take a couple of swipes and not get 3 days "time out", it may be worth it!

Childish? Oh yeah and gratifying all wrapped up in one!

I think I have an answer though. It is common knowledge that I don't visit the other sections of the forum much. Not unless there is a catastrophe or holiday or something like that. There is lots of room on the forum. All someone has to do is stay in one part and the other has the WHOLE forum to themselves.

I'll stay here and ................................Seems that would be a reasonable work around.

What say you?

 

[Hoptob]

Thanks for your advice, Skip. The single action thing sounds strange but I'll try. Position of the powder, maybe?

Somehow I have a feeling that this thread won't last long enough for me to figure out right load for my 625JM Oh well, it was OT anyway.

Mike

 

[Skip Sackett]

No Mike, the hammer in double action doesn't travel as far as it does in single action. That makes the primer strike harder and energy being what it is, gets transfered to the detonation of the compound in the primer. At least, that's the theory I came up with!

Maybe this will help the OP too. Take a cylinder full of your bullets and shoot them one way and then the other. Just take a patch and push it through the cylinders after the first go around. It may enlighten us all a bit!

Mike,
As for the thread being shut down, we'll have to start another to answer your questions is all! If it does get shut down, and I mean this, I will be very sorry for the part I played in it. That certainly isn't my intent at all.

p.s. Mike, you need a shave dude!

 

[m657]

I wonder whether the amount of crimp might affect some of the burn rate on the AR with results on the brass such as the photos show.

As a recent experimenter into the world of the AR, I noticed having to change the crimp die setting a bit from the ACP loads I was building.

Don't know about this speculation. Haven't shot many of the AR loads of recent build. The ones I did shoot didn't show such marks.

 

[handejector]

Thanks for your advice, Skip. The single action thing sounds strange but I'll try. Position of the powder, maybe?

Somehow I have a feeling that this thread won't last long enough for me to figure out right load for my 625JM Oh well, it was OT anyway.

Mike

The thread will last a while longer, so far........
Love that pic.
Care if I steal it?
I might be able to use it........

 

[handejector]

Lee,

Explain how this "point" system works.

Is it like some do their kids? 1.................2....................3...............I'm gonna spank you! Like that?

'Cause if it does, and I could take a couple of swipes and not get 3 days "time out", it may be worth it!

Childish? Oh yeah and gratifying all wrapped up in one!

I think I have an answer though. It is common knowledge that I don't visit the other sections of the forum much. Not unless there is a catastrophe or holiday or something like that. There is lots of room on the forum. All someone has to do is stay in one part and the other has the WHOLE forum to themselves.

I'll stay here and ................................Seems that would be a reasonable work around.

What say you?

Well Skip, I thought we were done with this many hours ago through the PM's with you and another member.
As I said in my post above, I am too busy to have watched this section today.
I just saw this.

First, the ding system was explained in Rules & Information that has been on top of the main menu since 2-2-10. It is the FIRST thing you see on the menu, IF you look.
I suggest everyone take a look.
Reminders and Infractions

You said-
"Childish? Oh yeah and gratifying all wrapped up in one! "

Unfortunate- odd that you brought this back to this thread more than 3-1/2 hours after my last PM to you. Not wise to poke at me after I think an issue is settled.
In a moment, you will see how the system works.

You said-
"I think I have an answer though. It is common knowledge that I don't visit the other sections of the forum much. Not unless there is a catastrophe or holiday or something like that. There is lots of room on the forum. All someone has to do is stay in one part and the other has the WHOLE forum to themselves."

I am afraid you are under the delusion that there are private fiefdoms on this board.
There are not.
Everyone can post anywhere on the public board within the rules and tone that now exist here. Anyone who cannot post within the rules and tone of this board eventually can post nowhere on this board.

To all-
The Rules and Terms of Service are easy to find- just see the Rules & Information section at the top of the Main Menu. The TOS can be found through the link at the bottom left of EVERY page on the board.

The TOS contain this-
"HIGH MAINTENANCE CLAUSE
Any member who occupies a majority of admin or moderator time unnecessarily will be banned."

Two members in this thread are high maintenance.
You both need to think faster, and type slower......
THAT is a word to the wise. I have spent too much time on both of you.
Fit in.
Play nice.
Last warning.

Skip- see you in three days.

 

[Rule3]

Dejavu all over again.