what do u guys think on crimson trace grips on a

[b_san]

405's are the way to go, the 105s are too plasticy and have a weird grip angle and the 305s too bulky/long. The 405s are just right, work great and don't interfere with concealability.

 

[Double-O-Dave]

What is the difference in 105 and 405? Do they make 205 and 305?

David
Edit: I went to the crimson trace website and read all about all of them.
105 poly grip standard
305 extended grip rubber over poly
405 compact grip rubber over poly

The added benefit of the LG-405 is an "air chamber" along the backstrap which helps soak up recoil. This is a real boon when shooting an air weight revolver, and even more so if you are lucky enough to have arthritis in your hands. The LG-105 are the entry-level, el cheapo Crimson Trace laser grips. Plain polymer, no padding, no master on/off switch, but I find they work great on an all steel J-frame like a Model 60 or Model 649.

Regards,

Dave

 

[David R]

I bought a set of 105 off this website. They go on my 637 if the grip part works for me. The stock grip is great, so I will know when its on the gun.

I will report back this weekend.

David

 

[zzclancy]

I use iron sights. I have crimson trace for an N frame I use to teach trigger control.

My wife has a set on her 642. Only this j frame.

I think as long as you learn with the iron sights and realized the crimson trace can fail your ok to use them. I think they are worth the money.

 

[Kadonny]

The added benefit of the LG-405 is an "air chamber" along the backstrap which helps soak up recoil. This is a real boon when shooting an air weight revolver, and even more so if you are lucky enough to have arthritis in your hands. The LG-105 are the entry-level, el cheapo Crimson Trace laser grips. Plain polymer, no padding, no master on/off switch, but I find they work great on an all steel J-frame like a Model 60 or Model 649.

Regards,

Dave

Agreed, but I couldn't justify the price difference for the 405's. I find the 105's are still comfortable to shoot, conceal tremendously, don't hang up on clothing. I love mine.

As others have said, if you are proficient with the iron sights already, what's the downside of the laser? If it fails, you can still use the irons. I was at the range this week with my 642 with the 105 grips. I practice with the irons first, then the laser to insure when I use the laser, it's pretty much matched up to my irons. At 7 yards (even with my mild hand shake) the laser pretty much puts the shot within an inch of where I was aiming. Not bad.

 

[Engieman]

Put 'em on, you'll love them. I'm the first to say nothing beats a beautiful blued gun with great looking wooden grips. However a small concealed gun such as the 649 is purpose-driven, it's not a target gun or showpiece (well, it could be). With that thinking, you need something durable, low maintenance, snag free, reliable and a 'game-changer.' Laser sights are indeed a game changer. Rubber grips on a stainless or coated gun fit the bill. The reality is when the stuff hits the fan, you are going to do more pointing and instinct shooting than careful sight alignment and trigger control. That's where the Laser comes in with spectacular results. Can the batteries go out, sure.....if so, still have your iron sights. And Hollywood has imprinted on the public the laser-dot on the target deterrent, thus you may never have to pull the trigger. Win win in my book.

 

[cougar14]

Green laser...

Nobody's mentioned this yet, but someone did comment on weak red laser in daylight. A bit more costly, but supposed to be much more visible in bright daylight.

 

[JohnSW]

I'm disappointed that Crimson Trace revolver lasers aren't available in green yet. They recently deleted the LG-305G Green from of their web site, because it no longer qualifies as "Coming Soon". (I was hoping for a 405G Green.) Crimson Trace states "unfortunately it is not as easy as switching a red light bulb for a green. We have to rework the entire grip to fit the larger green diode and more powerful batteries."

 

[wrangler5]

The LG-405 air chamber is only over the top part of the backstrap. I have one on a 442 and don't find it any more comfortable to shoot than the factory boot grips that came on the gun. (Of course, the laser adds another dimension to low light accuracy, but it's still an uncomfortable gun for me to shoot very much.)

The LG-305 is air-cushioned all the way down the backstrap, and is wider and longer as well. MUCH more comfortable to shoot, in my experience, but the extra size makes it not work very well as a pants pocket gun, at least not in any of my pants. I carry my 305-equipped 638 daily, IWB, and couldn't be more pleased with the combination. On those rare occasions when I don't want to put on a holster or wear a jacket with a large-enough pocket, I can put the 442 with LG-405 in a pants pocket.

 

[pineappleshooter]

Laser sights are slow, unreliable, bulky and make you look at the wrong thing.

My CT grips are thinner than the stock boot grips that came on my 442.

They are poor efforts to avoid the training and practice needed for handgun proficiency.

CT grips are awesome for dry fire practice - see how still you can keep the little dot through the trigger pull.

Sort of like buying 'air Jordan' shoes imagining that they will make you a basketball player. Great for the merchant, not likely to get you a pro ball contract.

Let's see Michael Jordan make a shot when someone knocks him on his rear end and is coming at him with a knife, club, gun etc....this is where CT grips shine - you can be upside down an backwards and as long as the little red dot is on target, you can be sure your shot is going where it needs to go.

Just my opinion, of course.

Any EDC I carry has Crimson Trace grips - I practice my iron sight work at the range, not in the street where my life depends on taking every little advantage I can.

 

[David R]

Those that scoff at laser, what is wrong with an additional sight system that works better in low light than the sights on the gun? Yes they can fail. Then its back what you have in the first place. NO loss.

After trying them out, I found my big hands and fat fingers do not push the button as well as expected. I can keep the laser on but I need to try a little. This group was 7 yards with the laser in my back yard in daylight. No paroblem seeing the dot on black or white. The load was 158 grain at max regular pressure. 4.1 grains bullseye. About 800 fps. The grip is not quite as good as the stock grip because it does not fill my hand as well. I can get used to it.

Works for me.

Same gun same distance except iron sights.

I am a bullseye shooter so the silver sights on the airwieght are hard for me to see and line up. I smoked them once and could see them better. To each his own.

I feel more comfortable with the laser grips on the gun when I carry it. One more advantage if I need it.

David

 

[Double-O-Dave]

I am a bullseye shooter so the silver sights on the airwieght are hard for me to see and line up. I smoked them once and could see them better. QUOTE]

Hi David R: I often use a black colored Sharpie marker on my front sights. It's cheap and effective, and you can readily remove it (acetone or fingernail paint remover) if you so desire. I also blacken out the rear sight "trough" or sight well with the Sharpie.

Regards,

Dave

 

[carl730]

Mine doesn't hit point of aim outside at 40 yards. I come home and try and adjust them to the sights, take it outside and I'm still 2 feet or more off. I didn't want to take those tiny wrenches outdoors for sighting in for fear of dropping them, but maybe I'll have to. The sights are on but the laser isn't and I'm not sure if the laser is moving or I'm not getting it right when I adjust them. Right now I'm thinking I'd be better off with a XS big dot tritium. Also I hear that if I go to Chicago, lasers aren't allowed so I'd have to remove the grips before taking it into the city. I have the CT405.

 

[David R]

They can be adjusted

I set mine for 34 feet because that is the indoor range where I shoot. This is a good compromise for me. It takes time to sight in just like anything else.

What do you have them on for 40 yards?

This target proves the accuracy of the gun and bullets to me.

David

 

[Bart45]

Laser sights are slow, unreliable, bulky and make you look at the wrong thing.

They are poor efforts to avoid the training and practice needed for handgun proficiency.

Sort of like buying 'air Jordan' shoes imagining that they will make you a basketball player. Great for the merchant, not likely to get you a pro ball contract.

Just my opinion, of course.

+1 A self defense situation will be within a few feet, and a sight will not needed. If sights are needed. there are other issues such as practice which need addressed.

 

[halvenut]

In my opinion it is a matter of personal preference. With that being said, if you install the Crimson grips practice shooting with both. That way if the battery fails you can still be proficient with the pistol.

 

[BubbaBlades]

If CT makes a laser grips that will fit any of my "house guns" or carry guns then those guns are wearing CT grips. I practice defensive shooting by activating the CT laser as I am acquiring the guns "iron sights". If the laser doesn't show up on the target (this has never happened to me) by the time that I have lined-up the iron sights, then I have wasted no time in pressing the laser's on button.
As an additional consideration, if my duty gun had been equipped with a laser during a high speed shootout on I-95 (many years ago) I would not have shot a hole through my fender mounted spotlight because I would have noticed that my laser dot was not shining on the bad guys car.

Mark

 

[mbliss57]

I am a purist who believe you need to know how to shoot with target or M&P sights. The only problem with that philosophy Is that at 57 my eyes can't see squat at more the about 5 yards. So I use them. CT sights on my J frames and CCW pistols. They are a great equalizer to younger eyes. I do not use them exclusively but when I cannot see the front sight at all... There is no other option IMO.

 

[wrangler5]

I am a purist who believe you need to know how to shoot with target or M&P sights. The only problem with that philosophy Is that at 57 my eyes can't see squat at more the about 5 yards. So I use them. CT sights on my J frames and CCW pistols. They are a great equalizer to younger eyes. I do not use them exclusively but when I cannot see the front sight at all... There is no other option IMO.

You don't have to be old to be unable to see sights. It's easy to imagine a place where it's bright enought that you can see that there's a threat, but not bright enough for ANYBODY to use iron sights accurately.

 

[skeete]

I think the Crimson Trace laser grips are definitely worth the money. They are especially useful as a training tool to get a good feel for were the gun is actually being aimed at. Just point at an object and then see how close you get to the beam.

I used to have several Laser Max guide rods for my Glocks but they were no where as bright as the Crimson Trace lasers. I was told by Laser Max that this was the case because the aperture was much smaller so they could fit into the guide rod. The guide rods broke about the time they went off warranty unlike my Crimson Trace laser grips that are still working fine many years later.