I had a Model 13 no dash as a duty gun in the 70s. I had Herrett's Jordan Trooper stocks on it, and shot "Expert" with it first time to the range. I carried it for a long time, and when I left LE, I traded it off. One of the worst mistakes that I ever made. I still miss that gun, and have a real soft spot for K-frames. It was a great duty gun, as it was K-frame light and had N-frame bark. I have never warmed up to L-frames. I prefer the K-frame .357s for defensive guns, and never had a problem with any of my K-frames, .357 or otherwise. The next closest thing is a Ruger Six Series, which I have an abundance of too. I sure miss that old Model 13...........