1sailor
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Until maybe last year I don't remember ever seeing that term before. I see it a lot now. Guys will say "It has a little push off" or it "doesn't have any push off" etc. What exactly is push off.
What exactly is "push off"
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In order to check for push off, you cock the hammer of a gun. Then, without touching the trigger, try to push the hammer forward. If the hammer "pushes off" it needs repaired.
I've never heard the term "a little push off". The only way I've ever heard of the term is when the hammer falls.
I've never heard the term "a little push off". The only way I've ever heard of the term is when the hammer falls.
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calmex
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I think "a little push off" is more-or-less equal to being "a little bit pregnant".
I think it either falls when it's not supposed to, or it doesn't. So I sure agree with you on that.
I agree. The Texas Department of Public Safety's range officers made us check our guns for push off before our Instructor's shooting proficiency test. If your gun failed that test you couldn't use it.
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yep... IMO, you either have it or you don't.
IIRC, there is a set amount of force to apply when checking but I forgot what it is. Seems like maybe 15 lbs???
Cpo1944
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I think it is mostly from Bubba doing his own "trigger job".
If you see it stay away from that gun. Its an accident waiting to happen. I had one -a Colt Python with a 4 inch barrel- it was worn but presentable, My wife who is a very good, experienced shooter told me to NEVER let anyone else shoot that gun! The push off happened with very little pressure applied to the back of the hammer would make it fall. It was too dangerous for me to keep, so I traded it off, for a pair of Ruger New Vaqueros,- I did tell the person about the push off, so he knew what he was getting.
If you see it stay away from that gun. Its an accident waiting to happen. I had one -a Colt Python with a 4 inch barrel- it was worn but presentable, My wife who is a very good, experienced shooter told me to NEVER let anyone else shoot that gun! The push off happened with very little pressure applied to the back of the hammer would make it fall. It was too dangerous for me to keep, so I traded it off, for a pair of Ruger New Vaqueros,- I did tell the person about the push off, so he knew what he was getting.
alde
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Yea, you don't want to put too much pressure on the hammer checking for push off or you will break something.
ChattCat
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Usually some has polished the sear to much. When best left alone in the first place. There are folks out there that make a living in doing this kind of work and are trained to do so. That's why I do what I do.
Actually, the sear has nothing to do with push off. Polishing or self adjusting the hammer / trigger notch to a point where the trigger ledge does not fit well into the notch on the hammer which allows the hammer to fall with a push on the back of the hammer. No matter what engineering feat is accomplished by a gun manufacturer, there is a kitchen table self proclaimed gunsmith that has a better idea...
eyegots2no
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Engine49guy
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Kernel Crittenden
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Just to state the obvious, it's not only revolvers that can have push off. Any gun with an exposed hammer or striker can push off. Had a Ruger M77 in 6.5x55 Swede once that pushed off after I'd paid a smith to do a trigger job. Glad I check it. It went back and he redid the job right.
calmex
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It is best described as the hammer will not hold cock. A slight forward push on the back of the hammer will let the hammer fall. This can be repaired. It can come from honest wear on a really well worn gun that has been shot 1000's of rounds, or as the result of a trigger job not done right.
Coaltminer
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Smith had some problems with hardening of hammers and triggers at one time, causing the the same condition after not much use. I got stuck with a 67 like this, they fixedly it for a little over $100, IIRC. I bought the gun at a show, never thought to check for that, I think the seller was aware.
DR505
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I bought a 629-4 from a S&W Forum member that had an undisclosed push-off issue. I sent it off to S&W and they repaired it, no charge. It went with another revolver I was having some work done to at the time.
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