Forcing cones are located in the breech end of a revolver barrel. They are the usually the same regardless of the caliber.
What Is The Point Of A 40 And 45 Cal Auto In A Revolver?
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Forcing cones are located in the breech end of a revolver barrel. They are the usually the same regardless of the caliber.
StrawHat
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I believe he meant the throat.
Kevin
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While I won't dispute the claim that a deer can be taken cleanly with any caliber (or even a sharp stick with enough effort and determination), this analogy is flawed.
The firearms we *carry* represent what we feel is a balance of convenience and effectiveness; they are by no means optimal for the task. No one in their right mind would bring a pistol, regardless of caliber, if they knew they were going to a gunfight.
Yup. I'd personally bring a battalion of Marines.
and an A10 or 2. Always bring the A10!
I find no reason for a 40sw in a revolver when I can carry a 4" semi auto with 155gr loads at 1300fps along with more rounds in a mag and faster reloads that are easier to carry concealed and a 45 is fine in a revolver if its a 45 colt , not acp . I can cover the same bullet weights and velocity's and greatly exceed the 45 acp with the colt cartridge . I still like my revolvers in 357mag but prefer those with at least a 4" barrel and heavy bullet
Enjoyment, that would be my only reason, if I needed one.
I also like getting a firearm that can shoot different cartridges with just a cylinder or slide change. So maybe adaptability.
Oh, and I just like handguns.
Top left S&W 25-5, bottom Colt Government model, right Ruger new model flattop Lipsey .45 Colt and with a cylinder change .45acp
Just enjoyable shooting.
I also like getting a firearm that can shoot different cartridges with just a cylinder or slide change. So maybe adaptability.
Oh, and I just like handguns.
Top left S&W 25-5, bottom Colt Government model, right Ruger new model flattop Lipsey .45 Colt and with a cylinder change .45acp
Just enjoyable shooting.
When you've pushed the envelope with 45ACP loads,
and your Colt GM rings like the bells at Notre-Dame,
you get a revolver that can handle stout loads,
and fire the rest of them.
Fun bullet puller.
Would have bought a Smith but the 45C had merit.
A friendly Smith at Ruger made that a 50yd one hand
Bullseye gun back around '81.
IIRC his target was six at less than 2".
Thousands of 45ACP rounds but just a hundred
or so of 45 Colt.
Great for letting new shooters impress themselves.
Put a Ruger stainless grip frame on not long ago.
Will trim it and make proper fitting Ebony grips eventually.
Better balance now.
After checking the old BHP's trigger pull weight today,
the Ruger was 3lbs.
The main work was whatever he did with the
cylinder etc etc.
Had a nice long talk about gunstock work,
Military competitive shooting and just sent it back for
a broken trigger spring.
He said he'd make it shoot nice and I sent some
sets of 1911 slabs with the gun.
No charge for anything.
Someday I'll get an older N frame Smith in 45ACP.
and your Colt GM rings like the bells at Notre-Dame,
you get a revolver that can handle stout loads,
and fire the rest of them.
Fun bullet puller.
Would have bought a Smith but the 45C had merit.
A friendly Smith at Ruger made that a 50yd one hand
Bullseye gun back around '81.
IIRC his target was six at less than 2".
Thousands of 45ACP rounds but just a hundred
or so of 45 Colt.
Great for letting new shooters impress themselves.
Put a Ruger stainless grip frame on not long ago.
Will trim it and make proper fitting Ebony grips eventually.
Better balance now.
After checking the old BHP's trigger pull weight today,
the Ruger was 3lbs.
The main work was whatever he did with the
cylinder etc etc.
Had a nice long talk about gunstock work,
Military competitive shooting and just sent it back for
a broken trigger spring.
He said he'd make it shoot nice and I sent some
sets of 1911 slabs with the gun.
No charge for anything.
Someday I'll get an older N frame Smith in 45ACP.
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Now that this thread has been resurrected, I've added this 9mm Uberti single action to my fold. Why? 9mm is cheap again, and I finally realized after 50 years that I just don't like reloading.
9mm in this thing is a hoot. Those little empties pop right out with a tap of the ejector rod, never to be seen again.
9mm in this thing is a hoot. Those little empties pop right out with a tap of the ejector rod, never to be seen again.
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I like the 45 caliber N frame revolver because it is the lightest N frame available to carry and it shoots a proper bullet. I can not speak to the 40 as I do not own one.
Why the ACP cartridge in a revolver? It is very much like Bluegrass music, if I have to explain it you may never understand. But, let's give it a shot.
Historically, the 45 ACP was developed to approximate the ballistics of the 45 S&W used in the SAA. Browning designed it and some nifty pistols to shoot it and the Army eventually settled on the Model 1911. Then, the world went to war but the US stayed out as long as we could. Joseph Wesson realized we would be forced into the war and that Colt could not keep up with the demand for the pistol. He tasked his engineers to create a revolver that would fire AND eject the 45 ACP cartridge. The firing part was easy, cut a proper chamber in the cylinder for the cartridge. Ejection was the hard part as there is no overhanging rim on the ACP cartridge. They came up with a full moon clip and the 1/2 moon clip. Nearly 170,000 revolvers were produced for the Army.
After the war, the revolver was in continuous production until 1949. In 1950, an upgraded version was offered with the short action and better sights. A target version with adjustable sights and the short action was also offered. In 1955, the Target version was again upgraded to include a heavier barrel. At some point, the ACP cartridge was offered in various stainless steel revolvers.
Why? Because it is the perfect combination of portability, power and accuracy available in a factory package, including factory ammunition.
And by handloading the versatility is enhanced. Self loading pistols would choke on the bullet shapes unless heavily modified.
The bullet on the right is a 235 grain full wadcutter. When loaded to hardball velocity it hits hard and is very accurate. It is my carry ammunition.
In modern revolvers, it can be stepped up a bit.
Those who use the ACP N frame are usually quite fond of it. Full moon clips make it easy to load, fast to load, and easy to retrieve spent brass. The 4" barreled revolver is light enough to carry all day, every day and provides sufficient power to handle most situations.
Oh, and I like them.
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"self loading pistols would choke on the bullet shapes unless heavily modified"........Bet my old 4506 would run them........I can manually run a clip of empty brass through it without a hiccup.
StrawHat
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My 645 could not run on the SAECO 453. Not a fan of self loaders so not familiar with the 4506. But manually run is significantly different from power run.
Kevin
Doug M.
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IIRC, Jim Cirillo's partner on the stakeout squad was authorized a 1911 and hand to manually load the chamber with his preferred load due to the bullet shape. They dumped a LOT of bad guys in the days before NYPD lost its mind and spine.
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Natural companion to a 1911 in either caliber. And .40s&w/10mm revolvers are potent medicine
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I have a model 25 revolver in .45 ACP. It is one of the most accurate revolvers in my collection, and a lot of fun to shoot. I am unaware of a revolver chambered in .40 SW, nor do I have a particular interest in it.
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There's absolutely so point in a revolver will 45acp IMHO.
The S&W model 646, the Charter Arms Pit Bull, and the Chiappa Rhino 40DS are all chambered in .40 S&W.
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