What Obama Said at Fort Hood. . .

Being born and raised in Hollywood Ca. to a family based in the acting community, I did not become an actor because I was not good at it.

I do know a good actor, or a bad actor when I see one.

The controversy surrounding this new President is natural. That so many adore him ,is reminiscent of Ayn Rands stories of people as followers.

I find something innately disconcerting in this man ,in my gut. I will vote again in 2012. Till then, I will persevere.

God bless those fallen, wounded, and their families, may they find the strength to carry on.

Allen
 
The difference between Reagan and Obama is that Reagan was an actor who became President, Obama is a President who doesn't know how to act.
 
"What Obama said at Fort Hood...is offered here for your perusal. If you have not read it, especially if you are concerned about the President's values and patriotism, you may find it enlightening. I know that I did. I'm not trying to get a debate going here. It is just that with so much negativity expressed about this man, I find it interesting to see how he views what it means to be a patriot in contemporary America. Most interesting is that while the media have been filled with nothing but news about the traitor Hasan and what might have motivated him, the President talks mostly about the 13 who gave their lives in defense of our country. And yes, the facts were gathered by speechwriters, but I am told that as is his custom, the President wrote most of this himself."

Getting back to the the title of this thread....I have read his words several times and can find no fault whatsoever with any of them. As usual, anything involving the president here turns into a bash a thon. I understand that this is a very conservative forum and expected no less.

Using this tragedy as a platform to trash President Obama strikes me as a tad shallow, especially in that his words, or the words of his speechwriters, were exactly as they should have been. He spoke eloquently of every victim, of their sacrifices. He spoke with reverence for the suffering of the families of each victim and avoided exploiting this sacred platform for political purposes. There was no call for blood, an eye for an eye, as the facts continue to be analyzed. Addressing the nation after such a tragic event comes under the heading of lousy duty for the POTUS.

I think he did it with class and reverence as was appropriate. If you disagree, I would ask you to read the words once again. Try to focus on not who spoke them, but on the words themselves, on the message conveyed. If they had been spoken by George Bush (H. W. or W), or Ronald Regan or anyone but Obama would you really be so offended? I think not...but then again, opinions vary.
 
I remember his wife saying that for the first time she was proud to be an American. I am ashamed of the president but proud to be an American. As far as I'm concerned Charlton Heston is still my president. He like myself served in the military.
 
I read it several times now and feel that it is very "uncommitted". It sounds more like an appology without any thought of future victory.
It's almost like he is saying we should expect more of the same.
I don't trust this guy at all. He should be selling something door to door not running America.
 
..........If you disagree, I would ask you to read the words once again. Try to focus on not who spoke them, but on the words themselves, on the message conveyed. If they had been spoken by George Bush (H. W. or W), or Ronald Regan or anyone but Obama would you really be so offended? I think not...but then again, opinions vary.


Nobody disagrees with the words as spoken. Most of us doubt there was any honest sincerity behind them because of the political history of the man speaking them. He never misses a photo op and still sounds like he is on the campaign trail.
 
IMO, Gen McChrystal should not be publicly yapping about what he thinks America should do in Afghanistan. Nor should Obama get pulled into a public discussion about troop deployments and his decision process until he, as CIC, decides what will be done.

Obama approved 17,000 additional troops for Afghanistan in Febuary. At the time, Gen Mckiernan had forecasted a need for upwards of 30,000. Now after the 17,000, Gen McChrystal wants another 40,000 on top of the 17,000 which is near double Gen Mckienan's earlier forecast needs. (please feel free to correct my numbers as they are from the memory of an aging mind).

While I have little faith in Obama's judgement, I'm not so sure a CIC should simply press the deployment button whenever a General says he'd like more troops.

Huh?

Just who would you have make that decision? You are quite accurate that Obama has no clue on what to do, if it's not the commander in the field...then who? Some ass hat in the Pentagon?

The man in charge ON THE FIELD needs to make the call. The President can either do it or not...but a decision must be made, and quickly. These troops were requested in August, it's now the middle of November!! Give them the support they need or pull them the hell out of there and live with the consequences. This political posturing is costing American lives.

Our President has elevated pathetic to a whole new level.:mad:
 
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Huh?

Just who would you have make that decision? You are quite accurate that Obama has no clue on what to do, if it's not the commander in the field...then who? Some ass hat in the Pentagon?

The man in charge ON THE FIELD needs to make the call. The President can either do it or not...but a decision must be made, and quickly. These troops were requested in August, it's now the middle of November!! Give them the support they need or pull them the hell out of there and live with the consequences. This political posturing is costing American lives.

Our President has elevated pathetic to a whole new level.:mad:



My first point was that Gen McChrystal et al., should not be publicly yapping their recommendations and forward war strategies. They are best confined to those they report to, not the media (and our enemies). Doing so creates political posturing in Washington that you so rightfully point to as dangerous.

Of course the CIC ultimately decides. As our previous CIC said, "I'm the decider". I think where we may disagree is the notion that a CIC must immediately rubber stamp troop requests whenever a Gen would like more troops. I highlighted a couple General's recent notions of troop level requirements for Afghanistan; they were dramatically different.

My hunch is that Obama has discovered its quite different to be nation-buiding and fighting a war from behind a campaign desk than it is from behind the desk in the Oval Office. I would not be surprised if he's in the process of changing strategies which would undoubtedly influence troop requirments and a field commander's recommendations.
 

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