What S&W's have you NEVER seen in real life?

GOOD LUCK!!!!

If you join the SWCA, that list of things you have not seen gets a lot shorter, and quickly. This is a hint :).

Having said that, one I have never seen is an early post-WW II .38 M & P Target known as the Mexican Model, even at the Southwest Bunch gatherings or a symposium.

I'm pleased to announce I'm one up on you----one only. The place was SWCA Orlando, as I recall. The time was whenever that was. A small display was being laid out----six guns appropriately titled "The Ones You Never See"-----he had THAT right!!

I'm close enough to see the sign, but not close enough to see/identify the guns---up until this one---The .38 M&P Target Model of 1946 (the Mexican Model). They have an unusual/distinctive/misshapen/downright ugly appearance----and I had lusted after one for YEARS. I spotted that one right off----and was right there in about two seconds FLAT!! It was BRAND NEW---in THE box---to boot!! "WHERE did you get THAT?!!" I asked. The non-response response was "I just got it." "For how much?", I asked. He looked around (ostensibly to ensure no one else was within earshot), and named the figure. It was right about then I decided maybe I didn't need one of those as bad as I thought I did. Actually, I was pretty damn well certain I didn't need one.

And speaking of the Southwest Bunch gathering, this is the best Mexican Model story from there: Way back when I knew I had to have one of these things, I called Jinks. I asked him what I should expect to have to pay for a decent one. He laughed, and said, "Well, up until the last Southwest Bunch meeting, I'd have said $3,500, but now I don't know! There was a fellow there, and he'd brought his for show and tell. There was another fellow there who had one at home----consecutively numbered to the show and tell gun----and he HAD to have this one too. The bidding began. It stopped at $15,000---which was also declined." Then he laughed again. So I'd had fair warning----but I still at least sort of wanted one----in a pipe dream sort of way.

After Orlando? Forget about it---it ain't gonna' happen!!

Ralph Tremaine
 
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I've been told I have a poker face, but I doubt I could hold it if ever I came eye-to-eye with a .22 M&P (Model 45) or a pinto Chiefs Special (photos don't count).

And also the M&P in .32 Long, which is in the same uncommon league as the .22 M&P. Both are scarce and are somewhat mystery revolvers, as relatively little detailed information exists about either. But the one I would REALLY want to have (and have never personally seen) is the post-WWII "Mexican Model" in .38 Special, essentially the K-38 Masterpiece with an unribbed barrel. See discussion directly above.
 
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I have NOT seen very many TSW models. In upstate NY you might see ONE or two used ones. I have NEVER seen a new one for sale other than a 3913TSW pre-rail I ordered.

I rarely see that may smith and wesson revolvers other than J-Frames and 686, 625 or 629 or X-Frames new. I do see on occasion other used revolvers.

Most smith and wessons that NEW in my region tend to be ordered not found in a shop.
 
Seen plenty pix, but speaking of up close and live, would like to meet a Volcanic pistol, Revolving Rifle, or 9mm Light Rifle.

Larry
 
The 'X' numbered experimental guns.
Any factory chrome plated S&W.
Any S&W in any finish other than blue, nickel, gold, silver, chrome or in-the-white. Any guesses here? Ha!
Some of the uniquely configured Club guns.
Any factory exhibition engraved S&W in high condition.

These are a few of the unicorn categories that always pique my interest, alas all have passed through my greasy mitts.
 
A Factory Nickel K-22.
Actually, I might have seen one.
But at the time I didn't believe that they existed so didn't take it serious and closely examine it.

I hate when that happens. And it's happened to me more than once. :(
 
That was the first thread I started. I asked if anyone could direct me to a picture of the RM .22. Since it is in the SCSW 3rd ed. I assumed there would be a picture some where. Nope. The only relevant information in the thread is that no one knows if it still exists.

There were supposed to have been two or three New Century .22 LRs made. That was the first model N frame or tripple lock. Perhaps those are the two you remember. A member posted that he has one of them and it is an 8 shot but I have never seen a picture of one.

The stainless steel .22 LR Combat Masterpiece is owned by a member. I would appreciate it if he'd post a picture. The SCSW 3rd. ed. writes it is stamped with a model number in the 60s, 64 if I recall correctly. The closest I hope to come to seeing it would be one of the .22 LR Mountain Guns. They sold out in between the time they were reported here and the next time I opened the forum.

The heavier barrel non-full lug Model 617s are also uncommon or scarce. While there have been pictures of them here many times I have not seen in person either a 4" or 6" non-full lug Model 617. The scarcest variation is a 4" with a 10 shot aluminum cylinder.

What else?

bdGreen
 

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Years ago I'd never seen a triple lock. The first one I saw I bought, a target model. I've never
seen a 4 screw triple lock or a S&W 45 Special (45 Frankford) army trials triple lock in person.

I frankly can't think of anything else I haven't seen in person except a Skeeter Skelton or Kieth gun.

But I'm old and used to go to the Great Western Gunshow in Southern CA. In those pre internet days,
there was no other way to have maximum exposure to see or sell every gun ever made and get internet
prices. Also John Wayne's double or Tom Selleck.

The Tulsa show is still like that, the Las Vegas Wannamaker shows, and Reno shows are still good.
 
I have never seen a 5 inch 627 with the full underlug barrel and fluted cylinder. These were from the early 90s, I believe. I have seen two listed for sale, but I was too late. I have two 627-2s with unfluted barrels, 5 inch, but have never seen one with an unfluted cylinder with my own two eyes! I believe they were sent to Europe.

Me neither until August when I bought one at the Big Reno Show. It's currently at S&W having work done. Can't wait to get it back. I thought it was a 629 until I saw the checkered top end. The best $200 I ever spent.
 

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I have never seen a Model 1, 1st Issue, 1st Variant in person. Seen a few photos, but that's it.

They are rare critters (less than 250 made in 1857 and 1858), but there are rumored to be survivors.

Mike
 
Ask and ye shall receive

I'm sure some of you have seen them all first hand, but I suspect a lot of knowledgeable S&W people haven't seen them all. Which ones have you still not seen in real life? Not talking about owning or even shooting...just seeing.

I'm largely ignorant of pre-war S&W revolvers, so I'm not really sure what I have and have not seen as far as that very old stuff goes....safe to say I have not seen most of the guns from that vast era.

As far as post war revolvers, I'd say that the gun I'd most like to see but haven't is the rare model 16 (or K 32 Masterpiece.) The early one, not the magnum version. I recently acquired a model 33 on GB, and I hadn't seen one before I'd bought it, sight unseen. Excellent gun. Still haven't seen a Terrier, though, which is similar to the model 33. Also haven't seen an old airweight with alloy cylinders.

Interested in all of your responses, but I'm especially interested in what the real experts - like Hondo44 - haven't seen. That would be a good indicator for which S&W revolvers are the rarest.

Photos of my NIB K-32
 

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Victory Model

How about a Victory Model marked USMC and VM-155 which was John Glenn's squadron during WWII... Oh wait, I have seen one. Its in my collection.

Just braggin'
 

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