What this revolver might be ?

[TomTomTarget]

Hi everyone,
I'm looking for your expertise to help identify a revolver that resembles a Smith & Wesson Schofield Wells Fargo model, but with a few key differences:

• It's smaller in size
• Chambered in 9mm, but the rim is different (shooter) from the standard Parabellum
• It has a 5-round cylinder
• No markings anywhere
• Synthetic grip

That said, some features are either identical to or closely resemble those of an S&W Schofield :

• Top-break
• Top break fixes sight
• The general look and proportions

Any ideas what this could be? Clone, reproduction, or something else entirely?
Thanks in advance for your input!

 

[s&wchad]

It's not a Schofield.
It looks like a clone of a S&W .38 Top Break (chambered in .38 S&W, not 9mm).

I'm guessing it's Spanish made.

 

[bigggbbruce]

Do Not Fire a 9mm in that gun.

 

[TomTomTarget]

Thanks, guys. It definitely looks like a copy of the SW 38 top break—just a matter of figuring out which one exactly.

As for the 9mm, the ones that came with it fit perfectly in the gun, which is what threw me off!

Let’s see if someone can pin down the exact model.

Catch you later.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

No markings anywhere ?

 

[s&wchad]

They're typically marked on top of the rib. Also see if there are any proof marks on the gun. I think I see some on the back of the cylinder. A close-up might help...

 

[bigggbbruce]

Barrel looks like a Baby Russian, but frame not the same or like any S&W I can find.

 

[s&wchad]

Do Not Fire a 9mm in that gun.

Unless you like rides in an ambulance.

 

[TomTomTarget]

Here are some more pictures. It really seems like there are no markings on this weapon at all. The Spanish copy seems like a good lead, but I haven’t found any online sources showing this exact model.

 

[walkin' trails]

There may have been more than one Spanish firm that made S&W copies. My dad has a big top break copy of a S&W double action in .44 WCF. His uncle gave it to him circa 1945-45 when he was five. It didn’t work. Main spring or something else is broken so when the trigger was pulled, the hammer sort of wiggles back and forth. The uncle’s father had worn the gun when he punched cattle when younger. Like the the OP’s revolver, this 44-40 has no markings at all. I tried to do a little research and discovered there appeared to be an industry in Spain copying S&Ws from the era. I wonder if no markings were intended to protect the maker(s) from copyright and patent infringement law suits like S&W brought against the US makers who copied their top break pocket revolvers?

 

[Hawg Rider]

Welcome to the Forum! Did you try carefully removing the stocks (grips)? There may be some stamps on the grip frame.

 

[TomTomTarget]

Hi everyone,

I’ve got a few more details to share with you:
– The grip panels aren’t synthetic—they’re wood.
– The number 42 appears three times on the gun (once inside each grip panel and once inside the cylinder).
– There’s a very faint and worn inscription on the sight rib that I can’t make out.
As usual, I’ve attached some photos and really appreciate your input. Thanks in advance!

 

[Muley Gil]

Do Not Fire a 9mm in that gun.

You are against 5 shot double action hand grenades?

 

[Alk8944]

With the style and attachment of the trigger guard my guess is the gun was made in Belgium, not Spain. On that subject there were numerous Spanish companies, as well as several Belgian companies, that made copies of many S&W models. Quality varies from excellent for the better makers to deplorable. absolute junk!

 

[jkwhaley]

Welcome from the banks of the muddy Missouri River! Agreed...NOT a 9mm.

 

[s&wchad]

Try rubbing some chalk into the rib markings.

 

[V7Sport]

Try rubbing some chalk into the rib markings.

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Or, along the same lines, overlay tracing paper and rub with a pencil

 

[bigggbbruce]

I personally would just toss that thing in a drawer somewhere and waste no more time on it, cheap copy, and definitely not attempt to fire it.