Whats with the 20 round boxes of 9MM?

[JeepinSoldier]

All of the practice ammo I shoot except rimfire are my own reloads. .32, .380, 9mm, .38 Special, .357 Mag, .45 ACP.

I do buy Speer Gold Dot in the 20 round boxes in the 135 grain .357 Short Barrel load because that is the only way I have ever found it.

If I can find the Gold Dots in .38 Special +P 135 Grain, 9mm +P 124 grain and .45 ACP 230 grain in the 50 round LE boxes I buy them that way. However during this shortage, I have purchased 20 round boxes of these as well.

Also purchased some of the 124 grain non +P 9mm Gold Dot in 20 round boxes because it was all I could find.

 

[SMSgt]

Whats with the 20 round boxes of 9MM?

The same thing as the 12 oz pound of coffee. Charge more, give them less; they have to buy more often.

 

[the ringo kid]

Besides costing more, candy bars have been getting smaller and smaller.


I disagree with the adage to practice with what ammo you intend to use in a defense situation. Who can afford it?? Practice with ammo that has similar blast, velocity and recoil. Use part of that 20 round box for familiarization and save the rest for when it is needed.

dONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON CANDY BARS ) Sorry for the darn caps.

The large snickers bar comes in two pieces,

 

[the ringo kid]

Maybe not those, exactly, but lots of us remember when a brick of .22 was ALWAYS 1000 rounds.

And I remember when that brick was $5 bucks.

 

[the ringo kid]

I haven't bought a 20 round box of handgun ammo since, maybe, 2004.

50 rounds boxes of the exact same load are almost always available, with a small amount of looking, on the internet. Both my SD guns (.38 & .40) are loaded with top notch loads, that, in their 20 round civilian boxes, are well over $1.20 per round; but I purchased the same load in Law Enforcement 50 round boxes, for about $0.80 a round shipped.

When I win that what? $600++ million dollar mega lotto, is when I start buying the expensive stuff. In other words, that will happen when hell freezes over.

 

[amazingflapjack]

Kid-learn to load your own Bud.

 

[Lockback]

20 rd. boxes are a way of getting you to buy ammo when you would pass due to sticker shock for 50 rds. of the same ammo. Just don't pick a fight with someone you'll have to shoot more than twenty times.

Heh heh!

 

[CoMF]

You're much better off buying 50-count boxes of law enforcement ammo. I haven't purchased little 20 round "boutique" packages of ammo in a very long time.

 

[thebeamanater107]

Just don't pick a fight with someone you'll have to shoot more than twenty times.

I like to live my life by this rule.

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[thebeamanater107]

You're much better off buying 50-count boxes of law enforcement ammo. I haven't purchased little 20 round "boutique" packages of ammo in a very long time.

I got those hornady zombie killers just to see what happens when they become antiques

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[the ringo kid]

Kid-learn to load your own Bud.

Ive been thinking about it but, ive never done it and dont have any tools but, ive been reading when you guys talk about it, I know that from now on when going shooting, im picking up all the shells. )

 

[amazingflapjack]

Just start out simple. Get a real basic set up that can be up graded. I like the Lee 4 hole press. I started by loading 9MM back then, they laughed at me for picking up 9MM brass! HeH Heh! I added an auto primer later on, and added more calibers as I went-It's a cinch by the inch, but hard by the yard. Flapjack.

 

[the ringo kid]

Just start out simple. Get a real basic set up that can be up graded. I like the Lee 4 hole press. I started by loading 9MM back then, they laughed at me for picking up 9MM brass! HeH Heh! I added an auto primer later on, and added more calibers as I went-It's a cinch by the inch, but hard by the yard. Flapjack.

Thank you and, is there a site I can go to to see what all I need to do reloading, as well as everything ill need? 9mm is what id like to try this on, then maybe graduate to .357 and 45.

 

[Smitty357]

OK, the 20 round boxes are most likely specialties, but buying a 20 round box of 9mm just doesn't feel right. Go through one and half mags and that's it.

With the 10 pack of hot dogs and the 8 pack of buns.

 

[Sgt.Peck]

An advantage to the 20rd boxes are, that premium quality ammo suitable for self defense is expensive. A couple 20rd boxes is enough to fill three magazines usually. At least that's my guess. Although, when it comes to a "J" or "K" frame revolver, 20rds is enough to load the gun and several speed loaders.

 

[amazingflapjack]

The reloading section of the forum is a good source, and Midway seems to be competitive on Lee presses, etc, even when you consider their shipping costs. Lee sells some basic starter sets; I like the 4 hole press my self.

 

[Arik]

I believe this goes back to the late 80s or so when the mfgrs found they could load name brand bullets in hunting rifle factory ammo and charge several dollars more for a 20-round box. Overnight, the factory ammo with 'in-house' bullets (Core-Lokt, Power-Lokt, Silvertip, Power Point) that hunters had used for decades became 'practice' ammo. No longer any good for hunting, barely suitable for range work.

Now it's boutique HG and SG ammo. I believe one mfgr has THREE versions of the standard 12-gauge 9-pellet 00 buckshot load. And we now hear that the white box/ generic/ practice/ range /ball ammo may be of a lesser QC than the 'boutiques.' ("Let's crank out XXX million rounds of poor quality ball ammo. Like the ball ammo our military uses to protect our nation.") Couple years ago, I bought a 50-round white box of WW 230gr .45ACP JHP at the price of a 20-round 'boutique.' Tell me that ammo is any less good in my .45 derringers or revolvers.

Let me stop. Happy holiday season to all.

Name brand quality bullets do perform better.

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[CatSnipah]

dONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON CANDY BARS ) Sorry for the darn caps.

The large snickers bar comes in two pieces,

And people routinely pay $2-3 for 20-24 oz of what amounts to filtered tap water.

 

[Bkreutz]

Thank you and, is there a site I can go to to see what all I need to do reloading, as well as everything ill need? 9mm is what id like to try this on, then maybe graduate to .357 and 45.

Look at the "reloading" section of this site (I know, it should be called "handloading", "reloading" is when you put a fresh mag in) and ask questions. I load mainly 9mm and make about 1200 a week. First thing to ask yourself is "how many rounds a week/month/year will I load?" and then decide on equipment from there.

 

[the ringo kid]

The reloading section of the forum is a good source, and Midway seems to be competitive on Lee presses, etc, even when you consider their shipping costs. Lee sells some basic starter sets; I like the 4 hole press my self.

Muchos gracias, I need to look more and see what all this site has to offer. Heh heh, im used to only mainly being in the Lounge.Ill be heading there shortly to see what in for.