When do you know something is a value?

[marine2541]

What are your values? If this caused you to stop and think, you are like most people. We really don't know what we value until are backs are against the wall. A value is something you recognize, think about, talk about, and act upon. For example, do you value education? If you do, you do those things mentioned above, the first three are easy. It's the fourth, to act upon, which is the hardest.

Carrie Prejean faced this crucifix under fire in front of a national audience when she was asked what she believed was the definition of marriage. She could have buckled and gave a politically correct response which may have given her the crown of Miss U.S.A., but she didn't. Her back was against the wall and she resonded by acting upon a value she believes to her very core. She lost the crown, but she gained my respect and admiration.

On the other hand, Perez Hilton, a judge and Gay Rights Activist, went out of his way to say in an interview that she lost the contest because she is a "dumb B%$#ch!" I suppose, in some twisted way, Mr. Perez demonstrated his values by disqualifying Ms. Prejean for her core beliefs. His personal attack on her also tells us a lot about his character, or lack of it.

What is a question like this doing in a Miss U.S.A. Pagent anyway? Only a question on abortion could be so inappropriate! It is a "gotcha" question through and through. Pagents like this may be silly, but they too are being corrupted by the long reaching tenticals of political correctness and liberal idealogogy. It's shameful.

 

[marine2541]

What are your values? If this caused you to stop and think, you are like most people. We really don't know what we value until are backs are against the wall. A value is something you recognize, think about, talk about, and act upon. For example, do you value education? If you do, you do those things mentioned above, the first three are easy. It's the fourth, to act upon, which is the hardest.

Carrie Prejean faced this crucifix under fire in front of a national audience when she was asked what she believed was the definition of marriage. She could have buckled and gave a politically correct response which may have given her the crown of Miss U.S.A., but she didn't. Her back was against the wall and she resonded by acting upon a value she believes to her very core. She lost the crown, but she gained my respect and admiration.

On the other hand, Perez Hilton, a judge and Gay Rights Activist, went out of his way to say in an interview that she lost the contest because she is a "dumb B%$#ch!" I suppose, in some twisted way, Mr. Perez demonstrated his values by disqualifying Ms. Prejean for her core beliefs. His personal attack on her also tells us a lot about his character, or lack of it.

What is a question like this doing in a Miss U.S.A. Pagent anyway? Only a question on abortion could be so inappropriate! It is a "gotcha" question through and through. Pagents like this may be silly, but they too are being corrupted by the long reaching tenticals of political correctness and liberal idealogogy. It's shameful.

 

[godlessgael]

I don't think it was her stance as much as the fact that she called it "opposite" marriage and sounded like a moron.

 

[marine2541]

I stand pat.

 

[Thuer]

Hee. What is the problem?
My idear of life is very simple.
Get lucky. I am very straight. I love woman.
I am married for about 21year with the same good old girl I very love.
But if someone loves one of the same sex and both are happy with it. Who cares?
They dont cost me money. They are living their lives and be happy. They dont do anyone any harm. I am pro homomarriage. NO I AM NOT GAY.

 

[Bassamatic]

She got shafted alright. I suppose she could have danced around the question but she took it on apparently paid the price.

Well, she can look at herself in the morning when she shaves and know that she did the right thing.

Whats a gay internet blogger doing there as a judge in the first place?

 

[EvelMe]

Evidently, he knows more about what it takes to be Miss USA than she does! (RRRRRRRRRRRight)

 

[Jeb Stonewall]

Originally posted by Thuer:
Hee. What is the problem?
.
But if someone loves one of the same sex and both are happy with it. Who cares?
They dont cost me money. They are living their lives and be happy. They dont do anyone any harm. I am pro homomarriage. NO I AM NOT GAY.

It has nothing to do with costing anyone money.
It's about the lack of morals in this country.
Would you want homos teaching your kids in school?
Or coaching your boys football team?

This young lady that stood in front of America and stated her beliefs showed that she has morals, backbone, and class!

BTW -the judge that asked the question showed he lacks all the above mentioned qualities.
1. Class -he has none, for even asking the question.
2.Backbone-he didn't have the nerve to say anything when he was offended by her views.(Only later when he was in a safe place did he work up the guts to call her a dumb bitch)
3.morals-easy to see he lacks any morals by the sick life style he lives.

 

[Wheelgunner840]

I didn't see or hear her response, as I didn't watch the pageant. My opinion is that gay folks have every right that is afforded any other human being by law. They don't have the right to change the meaning of the word "marriage" to suit their needs. You want a "Civil Union" with your partner that comes with all the same benefits as marriage <span class="ev_code_RED">according to law</span>? Fine. You want to change the meaning of the word marriage and the sanctity that goes along with it according to tradition and according to every religion on earth? No way!!!

Marriage by definition is the union of one man and one woman in this country. Let them make up their own word for what they do. Marriage is already taken.

Since I don't know what she said, I should slip out of here and maybe try to google it.

WG840

 

[godlessgael]

wheelgunner, I completely agree. I would even take it a step further and say that the government has no business issuing "marriage licenses." I believe that all couples, same sex or hetero, should only be able to form civil union according to the government. If a couple would like to get married according to their religious beliefs, it is up to them.

this would help the churches out by keeping the government out of their business (the side people often forget when talking about separation of church and state).

 

[Waldo]

I think one of the problems we have in this country is that everybody wants to impose their views on everybody else. If you want start a "Church of the Flaming Gays" and to marry a person of the same sex . I don't care. Just leave me alone, and stay away from my guns. We live in a nation of people who think gays should marry, but I should not own a pistol. Or that owning a pistol is fine but gays should not marry. If everybody would leave each other alone it would sure make life easier. By the way, I am strictly heterosexual. I sometimes think it would be fine if every man other my 2 sons and I were gay. Just think of all the fun we could have with all the lonely ladies.

 

[walter o]

Different strokes for different folks. What is of high value to me might not be of value to you. we must all have belief that we hold dear and we must express it ,but not slam or trample the thoughts of others and they must do the same to us After all I like muzzle loaders dont think smith & wesson made any .

 

[Onomea]

I hear ya, Thuer.

And I'm with you, Waldo.

Everybody just oughta back off and get out of everybody else's private business, especially the government and especially people's sex lives.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

If they can keep it to themselves or among adults, I do not care; but men with cosmetics, perfume and nail polish talking like queens around children - especially mine - just plain creep me out.

 

[YeshuaIsa53]

This is unfortunately showing up as a confrontational epidemic everywhere. Like it or not, it has become a political issue. Morals, values, and ethics are questioned everywhere on the internet by highly intelligent people meaning to validate their choices they have made by stepping on other's choices quite often. It is something we are going to have to learn to deal with..........carefully. The asking of such a thing in a contest to a beautiful young lady in front of so many people is a degeneration of morals, values, and ethics in itself. That young lady has been working for her dream for many years, only to have someone question her with such a fragile topic. The judge should crawl back under the rock they came out from under.
Those questions to be asked in these times are so much the norm, though.
Life is about choices. To each individual is their right to choose what they do, as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. Her rights were assaulted.

 

[gregintenn]

Marriage is a religious ceremony where one woman and one man are united. Homosexuality, according to the bible, is a sin. An earlier post stated that the government should stay out of it. I sorta see the point, but like it or not, we are a Christian nation. Our laws are based on biblical law. Freedom of religion simply means that christians will tolerate people of other faiths. It does not mean they will accept their beliefs as their own.

 

[marine2541]

Originally posted by Waldo:
I think one of the problems we have in this country is that everybody wants to impose their views on everybody else. If you want start a "Church of the Flaming Gays" and to marry a person of the same sex . I don't care. Just leave me alone, and stay away from my guns. We live in a nation of people who think gays should marry, but I should not own a pistol. Or that owning a pistol is fine but gays should not marry. If everybody would leave each other alone it would sure make life easier. By the way, I am strictly heterosexual. I sometimes think it would be fine if every man other my 2 sons and I were gay. Just think of all the fun
we could have with all the lonely ladies.

I predict gay marriage and the loss of our gun rights will come via international treaties. This is how the radical right will usurp our Constitution.

 

[Jeb Stonewall]

What it amounts to is if you are gay, then you expect everyone to stand up for your rights and beliefs no matter what they believe is right or wrong.
But if we have a differant view of right and wrong than the gays , then we are just narrow minded hate mongers!

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

She should have pointed out that it is the VOTERS of California and 29 other states who have chosen to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman as the only legally binding definition in their states. I would ask this Perez Hilton why he and his ilk have so much contempt for the concept of popular sovreignity.
And a homosexual judge in the Miss USA Pageant? Why was he there-to get fashion tips perhaps?
One of the ways I define a "value" is something that you not only profess and practice yourself but also stand up for.

 

[godlessgael]

haha, Jeb and BlackhawkNJ, my thoughts exactly.

Jeb, expand that to any conservative idea out here in SF.

Whether we are a christian nation or a nation made up of a lot of christians is up for debate. What we all are entitled to is equal rights under the law. To be honest, I am surprised that more gays AREN'T for gun rights as they would be more consistent on their constitutional law if they were.