When Is Enough, Enough?
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bhayles
Member
Junk MAIL is one thing (though I hate seeing a chunk pof what I DI give them wasted on what ends up in a shredder, unread) but junk PHONE CALLS is another. I don't care what your cause is, if you interrupt my dinner begging for money you are on one of my lists...and its not the Christmas card list.
sipowicz
Member
I told them I had a gun...they stopped calling.
Mcwsky09
Member
Perhaps they would not need to send the constant barrage if every single person who is in favor of the 2nd Amendment was a member. As far as I know they do not have a steady stream of billionaires funding them.
I do wonder about the messaging in some of the communications - if they are taken at their word then we have been just seconds away from a door to door confiscation of anything that even resembles a firearm every day since I joined. and while I am not saying the threat isn't real - the idea that if I don't send in $20 in the next 10 minutes then my door will be kicked in by the BATFE in order to confiscate any or all of my firearms sometimes feels like they are manufacturing the worst case scenario simply so they can claim that they alone were responsible for the narrow escape from that dire outcome and oh by the way the next imminent catastrophe is just up the road from you and you better send another $20 to stop that one as well.
I am a member - recently did a 5 year renewal - also have contributed to the NAGR and NOA and I think at least one other - and will continue to do so - but at a frequency and dollar amount that is not based on paranoid fear.
I do wonder about the messaging in some of the communications - if they are taken at their word then we have been just seconds away from a door to door confiscation of anything that even resembles a firearm every day since I joined. and while I am not saying the threat isn't real - the idea that if I don't send in $20 in the next 10 minutes then my door will be kicked in by the BATFE in order to confiscate any or all of my firearms sometimes feels like they are manufacturing the worst case scenario simply so they can claim that they alone were responsible for the narrow escape from that dire outcome and oh by the way the next imminent catastrophe is just up the road from you and you better send another $20 to stop that one as well.
I am a member - recently did a 5 year renewal - also have contributed to the NAGR and NOA and I think at least one other - and will continue to do so - but at a frequency and dollar amount that is not based on paranoid fear.
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joeintexas
US Veteran
I agree if there is one organization we as gun owners must support it is the NRA. Having said that, it is annoying when they call you to tell you its time to renew 3 weeks after you just renewed. Then a month after that, I lose count of my actual renewal date. The wife says, "why don't you just do the lifetime renewal thing". Hate it when they're right.
Before I called and had them stop sending mail completely(and ceased the phone calls), I used to send their solicitations in the return envelope provided by AARP.
Now I just send pages from the American Rifleman.
Now I just send pages from the American Rifleman.
bhayles
Member
Before I called and had them stop sending mail completely(and ceased the phone calls), I used to send their solicitations in the return envelope provided by AARP.
Now I just send pages from the American Rifleman.
Dang...I wish I could like this one about a dozen times...
Art Doc
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
They need money to lobby and hire lawyers. They have to ask for money. If being asked for money bothers you more than having your 2A rights suspended then quit the NRA and complain about being asked for money.
But please don't quit the NRA, complain about being asked for money, then claim you support the fight to defend the 2A. If being asked for donations is enough to make you quit the fight, we've already lost.
But please don't quit the NRA, complain about being asked for money, then claim you support the fight to defend the 2A. If being asked for donations is enough to make you quit the fight, we've already lost.
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Okay, okay. I know there are stock answers that are always given about expense`s of the gun battle. I believe for a fact much of it is rhetoric reflex programmed thinking people react to. Ya gotta use money to fight for us. BS!!! Its in all religions too. Its in politics big time. Each side of every issue everywhere thinks its all about who has the most money to win, keep our guns, save our souls, have our candidate win, and if we dont give, we are a unpatriotic heathen. Do I really, really, think I want my candidate to win or my soul is saved only because I and others of my thinking won based on money? I dont get off walking around, thumping my chest how patriotic I am because I put my money where my mouth is. I dont believe in buying votes OR WINNING on money merits that bought my candidates office. Whatever wins out shouldnt win because of money. It should and will win because its just right. If my cause dont win, I make up my own rules, walk a low profile and live by my own integrity that I choose. I will fight with argument, fists or as a last resort with my illegal gun. You wont see me hiding in a trench throwing bags of money at my enemy to keep them at bay. I dont want to "win" that way.
Erich
Member
TO OPT OUT OF NRA CALLS
Call 1-800-672-3888, and select option 4 - they'll ask your last name and your ZIP code. It'll take under a minute, you'll talk to a bright young American who'll tell you it might take a week to trickle through the system, and they'll thank you for your support.
I wholeheartedly support the NRA and contribute to NRA ILA, and urge you all to consider doing so as well. But I don't like to get solicitation phone calls because I have other things to do with my time.
Call 1-800-672-3888, and select option 4 - they'll ask your last name and your ZIP code. It'll take under a minute, you'll talk to a bright young American who'll tell you it might take a week to trickle through the system, and they'll thank you for your support.
I wholeheartedly support the NRA and contribute to NRA ILA, and urge you all to consider doing so as well. But I don't like to get solicitation phone calls because I have other things to do with my time.
cowart
US Veteran
On my cheapo cellphone, you save the phone number as a new contact, and assign that contact to the "reject" group. Your phone likely has a similar capability.
FWIW, its unlikely that anyone here has ever received a request directly from the NRA for additional money. What is actually going on is that the NRA hires contractors to do this function. So feel free to reject them or cuss them out.
SmokeStack Lightning
Member
Me too. Well that, and Ted Nugent.
carpriver
US Veteran
I will remain a member but I give what I can when I can and toss the other stuff. Between eating and ammo money is tight.
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
So hiring a contractor to hit you up for money absolves the NRA of the dirty work? Like they dont know what they are shelling money out for to make more money?
On fox news they run ad`s for some Jewish relief outfit. Now I do sympathize with those old people what they been through and needs. But what really turns me off is when the rabbi holds the mike to a old wrinkled up woman in rags wearing a babushka and pausing so she can cry. You dont get to me with those tactics. Look, tell me the need and show me that something like 80 % of the offering isnt being spent on "expenses" to get 20% of what I give that really gets to the cause.
On fox news they run ad`s for some Jewish relief outfit. Now I do sympathize with those old people what they been through and needs. But what really turns me off is when the rabbi holds the mike to a old wrinkled up woman in rags wearing a babushka and pausing so she can cry. You dont get to me with those tactics. Look, tell me the need and show me that something like 80 % of the offering isnt being spent on "expenses" to get 20% of what I give that really gets to the cause.
venomballistics
Member
its a disgusting trend ...
we bought a 2011 Buick Regal ...
I deeply regret doing so.
Don't get me wrong ... we love the car. Not a thing wrong with the car....
ITS THE EXTENDED WARRANTY CALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know they cover the air in the car and nothing else.
I told them to stop calling ... phone still rings.
I told them we sold the car ... nope, still calling
I cited telecommunications laws as applicable ... still calling.
I will NEVER buy another general motors product for as long as my lungs draw breath due to this relentless harassment.
practitioners of this should be publicly horse whipped and doused in lemon juice
we bought a 2011 Buick Regal ...
I deeply regret doing so.
Don't get me wrong ... we love the car. Not a thing wrong with the car....
ITS THE EXTENDED WARRANTY CALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know they cover the air in the car and nothing else.
I told them to stop calling ... phone still rings.
I told them we sold the car ... nope, still calling
I cited telecommunications laws as applicable ... still calling.
I will NEVER buy another general motors product for as long as my lungs draw breath due to this relentless harassment.
practitioners of this should be publicly horse whipped and doused in lemon juice
If they don't ask for money, they won't get any.
It seems like some forum members are satisfied with the status quo of gun rights, and will worry when the next time they hear about gun control on the tube. They must be on the wrong channel. We (NRA) don't need pacifists, we need to attack. Advance, moving targets are harder to hit.
It seems like some forum members are satisfied with the status quo of gun rights, and will worry when the next time they hear about gun control on the tube. They must be on the wrong channel. We (NRA) don't need pacifists, we need to attack. Advance, moving targets are harder to hit.
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
My best tarzan yell. AAAAAAH ah AAAAAh. Thump thump thump.
This ^ Plus
I joined a few years ago and couldn't believe all the begging I got just after joining. It came to a head one Sunday night at 8:00 when I got a phone call for a one time emergency donation. I asked for a supervisor and when he came on the line I said "Shame on you! It's Sunday night and you're making this poor woman call people begging for money. If I get one more phone call before it's time to renew my membership I'll cancel and never rejoin." He apologized and said he'd put me on the no call list. It worked.
chaparrito
Member
+1..........
Why did you, then? You don't own a trash can? You don't have a telephone to call the "opt out" number several people have provided for you?
I'm tired of beating this dead horse: NRA is the biggest and best organization we have defending our rights. They are a single-issue pressure group. You know that every dollar you send them is going for that purpose. They are the 800 pound gorilla. When politicians talk about the "e-vile gun lobby," they aren't talking about GOA or any other organization, they are talking about NRA.
With the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United vs. FEC, NRA can buy ads in Georgia exposing the anti-gun sentiment of one of our Senate candidates. NRA can target particular races where a liberal might be defeated, or where there is an open seat, and a conservative might be in need of a little help. It takes money, though.
I'll stop before I get too political, but this is 2nd amendment stuff, and I have called no names, just given an example.
I would like to say that one of the reasons I consider this particular forum as my main internet home is because of the strong support of NRA by the head Honchos and most of the membership.
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