Where to buy Toys for my M&P on Ebay?

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After picking up my M&P 15FT a few days ago I can't wait to start buying the "toys" to make the "T" into Tactical.
P.S. Sorry guys. I can't hold out :eek:

So far the toys I want to add are:
1) Tactical Flashlight on rail
2)Vertical Foregrip
3)Angled Foregrip (use either one at a time)
4) Red Dot or Holographic Scope

Now I think buying on Ebay is the way to go (unless someone knows better). So I'd like to have that same store that you guys shop at on Ebay that has good deals and I can combine shipping also.
 
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If you know exactly what you are looking for, maybe eBay. But I'd suggest one of the bigger internet shops like Brownells, Midway, Cheaperthandirt, Optics Planet, and others, and my favorite for ammo, Cabelas.

With these guys you get choices and user reviews, and you'll stumble onto items you never knew existed.
 
Just like Stebo said, I would start out with the big name companies that are out there. Plus you have to watch out on ebay as there are a lot of counterfeit Magpul gear and there is also the Magpul PTS (mostly only made for airsoft use) gear.

Depending on what your budget is, a cost effective solutions for a red dot would be one from Primary Arms. They also have a wide selection Magpul and other gear items that your are looking for.
 
Personally, I would not buy anything off Ebay.

My first place to shop is Primary Arms.

Midway is midway between midrange price and high price most times, Cheaperthandirt isn't really, Optics Planet is the wal-mart of the internet. Be careful of additional shipping or processing fees on top of shipping price from all three of these. Reviews at those places are mostly worthless.

Shop the actual company that made what you want also, sometimes their prices are lower than elsewhere even the above three.

Brownells is ok, Cabellas is consistent for ammo price and usually well stocked.

Red dot sights with over 3 MOA dots are useless for tactical use, anything over 2 MOA is useless for critical quick engagement precision. Do not skimp on something your life would depend on, do not treat selection casually based upon low price. Stay with the brands well known for tactical use red dots that are classed tactical use and not general or hunters use, stay with companies with proven track records in tactical or combat use RDS. Its true these are generally higher in price but they are made for tactical use with engineering, structure, and components design based upon real world criticality application thats specifically tailored to offer the best chance of reliability and dependability under critical, demanding, and harsh use. For tactical use, for example, a new red dot that costs $60.00 from the "budget menu" is not going to equal a red dot that costs $300.00 from Aim Point or EoTech I don't care how many people tell you otherwise or how many reviews you read because it just ain't so period. Its like the difference between having a dentist do your heart surgery instead of a heart surgeon - both called doctor but both are not equal for their application and one will be more likely to fail you during the most critical time. So unless you plan on possibly flossing the bad guys teeth stay away from the budget menu for tactical use RDS.

For quick tactical use forget the vertical and angled grips (or support hand magazine well grip). These simply set your support hand back too far or at the wrong position for quickly "driving" the weapon between targets, to a target, or for moving targets, suitably. Learn to use the support hand forward "driving" grip instead, and spend the money on something else.

Flashlights, lots to choose from in all sorts of price ranges. Some are ok, but a lot are more "gimmicky" than useful. The tactical flashlight has three basic purposes, illuminate, momentarily blind, and aid aiming on, a target. A few tips; Illuminate in this case does not mean to just put light on a target, it means to put light on the target so that the light actually helps you hit the target because it has a bright "hotspot" that covers an area of the target you can reasonably expect to hit with a quick shot at up to close engage range of 25 meters in dark or near dark conditions, this means a light with about 100 lumen and a light source that does not have gaps and shadows with a "hotspot" yet still casts enough light over a reasonable area of the target to see places for follow up shots if needed. The ideal beam has a bright center "hotspot" for identifying distant threats and acting as an aiming aid yet has a smooth sidespill of light to aid peripheral vision. Do not get a incandescent flashlight. Go with LED lights with a textured or "orange peel" reflector. "orange peel" reflectors are better and allow for a beam that is very smooth with a bright "hotspot". Textured reflectors allows for more distance but the sidespill generally is more cut off rather than dimishing, beam is a little less bright at the center with beam quality more defined but a little less smooth and more abruptly dimished at distance. For close in choose beam quality over light throw distance past 25 meters. Aluminum construction with Hard Anodized Type III, using CR123A lithium cell batteries. Mounting should be parallel to the weapon bore line mounted below (best), mounting above is not ideal due to tendancy to chase the light in the dark while shooting and can chase light off target more quickly and miss, side mounting causes a shadow due to barrel or forend obstruction and decreases side peripheral light which you don't want to lose. Mounting below and parallel to bore line preserves peripheral light more to the sides and below the weapon which is more likely to be used and needed than lighting to the top of the weapon plus the "hotspot" is in line with the bullet travel path for follow up shots during recoil rather then to the side of bullet impact points and its eaiser to compensate up and down than it is to adjust side to side for follow up shots. Stay away from plastic lights, plastic mounts, mini-lights. Do not mount to the front sight or barrel unless you really have no other choice, mount on forend handguard rail at bottom 6 o'clock position.
 
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I always try to weigh buying off the "net" against buying from my LGS to see if it is really worth it. Consider sales tax, shipping & handling fees against establishing good relations with the guy you are going to go to when you have a problem.

That being said, I find that my LGS does not have what I want and that I can get it faster, I'm a very impatient guy, and cheaper by ordering it myself. If you find that is the case, you might want to check into BotachTactical.com (good selection and prices, free shipping, but poor customer service IMO). Also check ManVenture Outpost (good prices, reasonable shipping, no personal experience with CS).

Remember it's very easy to turn a $900.00 six and a half pound gun into a $1800.00 twelve pound bench rest rifle. But, it's a hell of a lot of fun doing so.
 
I'd stay away from eBay.

You run a huge risk of getting stuff that is advertised for real steel and is made for airsoft guns as there are so many airsoft knock offs out there.

Try m4carbine.net or ar15.com. I am a member at M4C and its very informative. As for ar15.com. I just buy stuff from the equipment exchange.
 
First thing i would do is buy a ton of mags and ammo before anything else. This is what fluctuates the most. Some politician farts and the next thing you know mags and ammo are hard to find, on back order, doubled in price or flat out illegal. So before i spend $500 on a EOtech ill buy that amount in ammo.

Second, i would figure out what the rifle is for. Home defense, plinking, SHTF...whatever. Go from there. Can you use the rifle at home? Does it make sense to? It is after all a rifle. Do you have neighbors close by? Rifle bullets go further and penetrate more they dont just stop if you miss. Maybe a handgun or shotgun is a better bet.

As to your questions. I dont use forward grips so i dont know who makes a better one. If this is your go to gun i wouldnt go with anything other then a EOtech or Aimpoint for a red dot. These have been proven. For a light you can get one of those small surefire lights that mount in front of the front sight

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So far the toys I want to add are:
1) Tactical Flashlight on rail
2)Vertical Foregrip
3)Angled Foregrip (use either one at a time)
4) Red Dot or Holographic Scope

1) There are a few ways to go with this. Surefire handheld in a ring mount. Surefire X300 or X300 Ultra. Surefire Scout or M series lights.

Streamlight TLR series.

I run a Surefire Scout M600c on a HSP mount. The 600c is 200 lumens. This is on my patrol rifle. It sees building/house/room/field clearing as well as perimeter duty so 200 is good for me.

2) You can spend almost $80-90 on a VFG. Just buy one that is proven to mount up solid.

TangoDown, LaRue, KAC, MagPul etc.

3) Angled foregrip. I couldn't get used to it so I stuck with a short vfg and mainly use the vfg as more of a hand stop.

4) Aimpoint PRO or EoTech XPS line.

I've run Aimpoint T-1 and M4. Great sights.

Currently running an EoTech EXPS so as to have lower 1/3 witness on my fixed BUIS. Plus the EoTech works for me more so than the popular T-1.

As Arik stated, Figure out what you will use this rifle for and go from there.

My humble advice:

A good weapon mounted light, ammo and learning the rifle is what should come first.

Do your research on your optics, VFG's, AFG and any other accessories you want to hang off your rifle.
 
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Just think of it this way if it is really cheap on ebay it will probably be counterfeit which means no warranty. If you want a Red Dot or Holographic Scope site go to reputable company. What you see cheap on ebay will most likely be Chinese knockoff. They may work for you but most die or will not hold zero. Grips would probably work for you. Magpul BUIS on there, sold in sets are definitely Chinese (Magpul only sell theirs front and rear separately), :eek: some have good luck with them. Just remember Caveat emptor
 
WOW. Alot of info there. As far as optics oh yeah, definitely going with Aimpoint or Eotech.
Flashlights- I know a couple "name brands" out there. Expensive but worth it.
Grips- I know 1 or 2 names. Magpul seems the most heard.

I will be careful now. Thanks
 
First thing i would do is buy a ton of mags and ammo before anything else. This is what fluctuates the most. Some politician farts and the next thing you know mags and ammo are hard to find, on back order, doubled in price or flat out illegal. So before i spend $500 on a EOtech ill buy that amount in ammo.

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This. I bought mine last week and walked out with an inexpensive millett red dot sight that had good reviews so I could also walk out with 4 30 round mag's and 500 round of ammo. Hoping to build that up to 1500-2000 by summer and then start reloading.
 
In addition to all the recommendations of places to buy you may also want to try Amazon. You'll find what you're looking for plus all of the vendors are vying for business and may drop prices. Good luck wherever you choose to shop.
 
As far as the rail on the M&P FT, what would I look for to fit? The brand of rail? Or do all items fit all rails?
 
Rails are supposed to be a standard 1913 picatinny rail, unless you are talking about rimfire scope mounts, but if it says it will fit a rail it is supposed to fit the standard picatinny, although some weaver rails are a little different. What are you talking about if I may ask?
 
Rails are supposed to be a standard 1913 picatinny rail, unless you are talking about rimfire scope mounts, but if it says it will fit a rail it is supposed to fit the standard picatinny, although some weaver rails are a little different. What are you talking about if I may ask?

Pretty general. Like vertical grips, flashlight mounts, optics,etc.
 
Another great place to shop is JoeBobOutfitters.com.


If you make a purchase over $100, they send you a free t-shirt.
 
As a few others have mentioned, I as well DO NOT buy ANYTHING from Ebay. Quite of a few of my friends have been scammed/sold an item other than what was mentioned on the listing.

Stick to Amazon for accessories, if you buy directly from Amazon shipping is free if your total is over $25.00. For Optics I like Palmetto State Armory & Primary Arms.

And a quick opinion brother.... buy at least an extra mag or two, and ONLY get Magpul mags... the aluminum mags are garbage. When I took my .22 to the range when I first got it I watched an older gent' fight with his AR for over a half hour due to feeding and ejection problems with the aluminum mags.

Get quality stuf even if it means getting 2 items instead of 5. Ya get what ya pay for!
 
Thanks
What makes the difference between Amazon and Ebay?

Amazon: More company based/backed product sales, more responsive to complaints and reacts quickly against bad sellers/dealers/scammers, will suspend or remove bad sellers/dealers/scammers quickly and then investigate further if needed wereas Ebay can allow the bad sellers/dealers/scammers to continue for up to a year or longer before they consider removing or suspending. Amazon is more likely to investigate a valid complaint and support the complainant whereas Ebay is more likely to defend or protect the scammer first and not actually investigate a valid complaint.

Ebay: More counterfits/knockoffs, scammers, misrepresentation, lots of bait-n-switch, more discontinued low quality junk substituted/shipped instead of the real thing advertised, practically no response by Ebay against scammers, seller ratings are mostly bogus, no easy way to address complaints against sellers because you are categorized in complaints and Ebay responds based upon the most 'worthy' category at the moment as it appeals to the ebay employee receiving the complaint and does not address every complaint like should happen (this also keeps complaints ratings from showing up simply because they were not choosen for response), no actual quality assurance or checks by Ebay for seller integrity, can take up to a year (in some cases a few years) for Ebay to remove a scammer and during that time the scammer is free to continue on Ebay, Ebay more likely to defend the scammer and ignore the complainant, you are more likely to get screwed in some manner.
 
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Amazon: More company based/backed product sales, more responsive to complaints and reacts quickly against bad sellers/dealers/scammers, will suspend or remove bad sellers/dealers/scammers quickly and then investigate further if needed wereas Ebay can allow the bad sellers/dealers/scammers to continue for up to a year or longer before they consider removing or suspending. Amazon is more likely to investigate a valid complaint and support the complainant whereas Ebay is more likely to defend or protect the scammer first and not actually investigate a valid complaint.

Ebay: More counterfits/knockoffs, scammers, misrepresentation, lots of bait-n-switch, more discontinued low quality junk substituted/shipped instead of the real thing advertised, practically no response by Ebay against scammers, seller ratings are mostly bogus, no easy way to address complaints against sellers because you are categorized in complaints and Ebay responds based upon the most 'worthy' category at the moment as it appeals to the ebay employee receiving the complaint and does not address every complaint like should happen (this also keeps complaints ratings from showing up simply because they were not choosen for response), no actual quality assurance or checks by Ebay for seller integrity, can take up to a year (in some cases a few years) for Ebay to remove a scammer and during that time the scammer is free to continue on Ebay, Ebay more likely to defend the scammer and ignore the complainant, you are more likely to get screwed in some manner.

What usually is in your court whether it's from Ebay or whoever takes Paypal is that Paypal will investigate and refund your purchase price if paid through them.
 
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