Where to find 225 Winchester brass?

[keithhagan]

Aside from gunbroker, does anyone know any retailer that has some 225 Winchester brass?

 

[rockquarry]

Depending on your level of handloading experience, you can possibly form cases from something like .30-30 brass. This can be a lot of work, particularly if you have to turn rims down, but you'll wind up with perfectly good brass.

I'd call RCBS for advice. I assume they still make forming dies, but they won't be cheap. I'm pretty sure .225 brass is one of those that Winchester only makes every few years because of limited demand. With things as they are now, who knows when it will be available again.

 

[keithhagan]

Depending on your level of handloading experience, you can possibly form cases from something like .30-30 brass. This can be a lot of work, particularly if you have to turn rims down, but you'll wind up with perfectly good brass.

I'd call RCBS for advice. I assume they still make forming dies, but they won't be cheap. I'm pretty sure .225 brass is one of those that Winchester only makes every few years because of limited demand. With things as they are now, who knows when it will be available again.

Thanks, rockquarry. I'm actually interested in 225 Winchester to form something else precisely to avoid much of the work that would be necessary using 30-30 brass.

 

[rockquarry]

Thanks, rockquarry. I'm actually interested in 225 Winchester to form something else precisely to avoid much of the work that would be necessary using 30-30 brass.

You might check with Huntington Die Specialties. They used to sell some oddball and hard to find brass. I haven't dealt with them in a good while. They used to have an up to date website with all the in stock merchandise listed. Good luck-

 

[dave1918a2]

You might also try The Old Western Scrounger.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

If you are making 219 Zipper, or 219 Donaldson Wasp 25-35 works much better and no annealing needed if using vergin brass!

I have a set of Donaldson Wasp dies Harvey's cousin gave me and my Zipper FL size die is a really old Lyman arbor press die, that several people borrow to form their brass! For these with 25-35 Trim, FL Size, trim again, 80% load of IMR3031 and fire form. If you keep loads to 90-95% of max the brass will last 15-25 loadings depending on chamber vs. die dimensions. You'll do even better Neck Sizing 4 out of 5 loadings.

These old wildcats were great when they came out, but soon Factory cartridges match their velocity with more efficiency and pre-made brass!

Ivan

 

[rockquarry]

If you are making 219 Zipper, or 219 Donaldson Wasp 25-35 works much better and no annealing needed if using vergin brass!

I have a set of Donaldson Wasp dies Harvey's cousin gave me and my Zipper FL size die is a really old Lyman arbor press die, that several people borrow to form their brass! For these with 25-35 Trim, FL Size, trim again, 80% load of IMR3031 and fire form. If you keep loads to 90-95% of max the brass will last 15-25 loadings depending on chamber vs. die dimensions. You'll do even better Neck Sizing 4 out of 5 loadings.

These old wildcats were great when they came out, but soon Factory cartridges match their velocity with more efficiency and pre-made brass!

Ivan

I used to use .25-35 brass for making .219 Zipper cases, but I don't know about present availability of .25-35 cases. You're right, however, it's easier than using .30-30 brass or something else. I don't like to anneal and don't see much point in it, but I did have to anneal the formed Zipper cases to get any kind of brass life at all. Had a lot of fun working with many wildcats and factory oddballs, but now don't miss any of them or the rifles.

 

[keithhagan]

If you are making 219 Zipper, or 219 Donaldson Wasp 25-35 works much better and no annealing needed if using vergin brass!

I have a set of Donaldson Wasp dies Harvey's cousin gave me and my Zipper FL size die is a really old Lyman arbor press die, that several people borrow to form their brass! For these with 25-35 Trim, FL Size, trim again, 80% load of IMR3031 and fire form. If you keep loads to 90-95% of max the brass will last 15-25 loadings depending on chamber vs. die dimensions. You'll do even better Neck Sizing 4 out of 5 loadings.

These old wildcats were great when they came out, but soon Factory cartridges match their velocity with more efficiency and pre-made brass!

Ivan

I used to use .25-35 brass for making .219 Zipper cases, but I don't know about present availability of .25-35 cases. You're right, however, it's easier than using .30-30 brass or something else. I don't like to anneal and don't see much point in it, but I did have to anneal the formed Zipper cases to get any kind of brass life at all. Had a lot of fun working with many wildcats and factory oddballs, but now don't miss any of them or the rifles.

Good information from both of you. I, however, am doing something a little different. The 225 Win is really the perfect brass for my particular appliction.

1. It has the right rim size .473x.049 (the same as the .308 family of cartridges)
2. 225 is rimmed (and the only rimmed cartridge I'm aware of with its rim size)
3. It already has the right base diameter

I'll be trimming the brass to 1.29 and resizing to straight-wall with a .40/10mm/38-40 bullet.

 

[Rogeronimo]

[*]It has the right rim size .473x.049 (the same as the .308 family of cartridges)
[*]225 is rimmed (and the only rimmed cartridge I'm aware of with its rim size)
[*]It already has the right base diameter
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Have you considered the 6.5 Japanese Arisaka? It's really close.

Prvi Partizan Brass 6.5x50mm Japanese Arisaka Bag of 50

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Good information from both of you. I, however, am doing something a little different. The 225 Win is really the perfect brass for my particular appliction.

1. It has the right rim size .473x.049 (the same as the .308 family of cartridges)
2. 225 is rimmed (and the only rimmed cartridge I'm aware of with its rim size)
3. It already has the right base diameter

I'll be trimming the brass to 1.29 and resizing to straight-wall with a .40/10mm/38-40 bullet.

So you are making a 38-40 +P with a straighter case. I think some of the European/Metric basic cases fill that bill too.

Ivan

 

[Iframe32s]

Aside from gunbroker, does anyone know any retailer that has some 225 Winchester brass?

Quality Cartridge has it in stock, but it's not cheap. I've ordered from them with no problems.

.17-.22 Caliber

 

[davmil]

H Keith,
I can help with the .225 brass. I have 3 boxes of Winchester brass de-capped, sized and cleaned. I also have a RCBS #11 shell holder as well as the Group D 33901 dies. Plus I have some Sierra .22 55gr Blitz King bullets - Maybe 40??I would like to part with all the above. Respond if you are interested and we can go offline to work a deal.

Thanks

 

[jrm53]

I have a cousin that has his dad's model 70 in 225 Win I tried a couple of years ago to get brass for him and nothing was available. Jeff